APETO - [GoobNES01-Fallout]

[Goober]

South Vietnam votes aye on the subject of allowing non-South-East Asia Nations in and renaming SEATO, votes nay on kicking the CU out of SEATO, they have been good allies and friends to us, saved our nation, and they are not the ones that the world should be concerned about, look at India and Spain for examples of nations that have done many worse things then the CU has, and votes aye to let Iran in.

OOC - Anything else that you need my lone NPC in this organization, South Vietnam to discuss or vote upon?

 

[Toteone]

The CU wouldn't have tried to make an attack on communism if it wasn't cuz' they tried to defend NV who wanted and still wants to take SV by the last time I checked. We're at peace now, I'm paying retributions.

I'll send you a PM that explains it Franco.

 

[Toteone]

Japan will not protect the CU. You are lost, surrender now.

The war was called off...
I think... Everyone is at peace with the CU right now or at least Cease Fire and so the MPP is of course reactivated if someone declares war at the CU or any other SEATO member.

- so the answer to Fantasmo's query: seeing as how the RSA called the war off and the CU complies if anyone declares war on the CU now you DO have to help us.

[ooc] yay! - world peace. I'm going to start keeping a low timid profile. No threat to anyone. [/ooc]

 

[Toteone]

Japan refuses to aid Russia. We did not even agree to letting them in.

We set forth a proposition to kick them out aswell. They are not a useful trading nation.

Plus, what was this whole thing from the Cu against communism? I sense some hypocrisy.

Japan DID vote for them! (when you were NPC)
They've got 3 votes, they only need Malaysia (who said he was going to vote as soon as they applied directly) or the Phillipines or the Khmer Alliance or Australia.

 

[Toteone]

Projects Barney and SEAINT are online. People are expected to pay ecos by the time deadlines arrive.

New proposals have been put forward which need votes.

Dissolution of the Mutual Protection Pact - proposed by Japan
2 aye, 2 nay, 1 abstains
Undecided Nations - Commonwealth Union, New Khmer Empire

the CU votes NAY

Expellation of the Commonwealth Union - proposed by Japan
1 aye, 1 nay, 1 abstains
Undecided Nations - Australia, New Khmer Empire, South Vietnam, The Philippines

South Vietnam voted NAY here.

Membership of Iran - requested by Iran
1 aye, 0 nay, 1 abstains
Undecided Nations - Australia, New Khmer Empire, Japan, South Vietnam, The Philippines

South Vietnam voted AYE here.

Renaming of SEATO to APETO, allowing non-SEAsians into the organisation - proposed by Malaysia
1 aye, 0 nay, 0 abstains
Undecided Nations - Commonwealth Union, Australia, New Khmer Empire, Japan, South Vietnam, The Philippines

The CU votes AYE
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PS. Who else wants in on the Pacific Stock Exchange? Right now we got 1 eco. from the CU, 4 eco. from Australia and we need 2 more eco. to finish it. (the ones who contribute benefit from it)

 

[BananaLee]

To People's Republic of China,

Russia has not even applied to join SEATO yet. Therefore, your question is irrelevant.

Tun Abdul Razak,
Sec-Gen of SEATO.


OOC:
S.Vietnam and CU hasn't voted on the amendment to the Charter yet. Please do so ASAP and I can do Update 4.5.
So Pacific Stock Exchange isn't SEATO-wide?

 

[Toteone]

aw c'mon.... Aussies give 4, Cu give 1
we need 1 or 2 more nations to give a total of 2 eco.

winners get +1 eco. each every turn from next turn if we finish it now and Aussies get 3 eco. from the rest for one round to even it out

SEATO-wide? You mean the guys who wouldn't save me because of technicalities? Thank goodness the RSA didn't want war!
SEATO-wide SHMEATO-wide... basically Goober told me you had to contribute to get bonus and that's why it's not SEATO-wide but I felt like including my little editorial.

And btw. I AM STILL spending ALL my money on military in case the declaration of no-war was a lure.

 

[BananaLee]

That question was OOC, I thought you won't take it personally? Haha.

BTW, pls vote for the charter amendment, Toteone.,

 

[Toteone]

[huh, didn't I? And it was IC =^^_^Å=]

charter amendment?
I believe I voted for it

 

[BananaLee]

Nope.
Only Oz, Malaysia and NKE.

 

[Toteone]

(Hey waidaminute.... you voted NAY for the CU being expelled! Awwwww-)
The Commonwealth also wants to ask Malaysia to postpone their payment to the Barney and S(E)AINT projects. There has been an unexpected need for the Union to shore up on military in case the CU is attacked. Could you pay 1 eco. to the SAINT for us please? 1 eco. to the Barneys would be great too, I just can't make it this turn in case of invasion and it'd be a real pity.
If so I'm returning it next turn immediately, I might even include an eco of interest (even though the CU didn't ask for interest when it payed the 9 eco. up front for out trade route).

Not to mention I'm already I'm selling a lot of eminant domained warbonds (meaning if you're one of my citizen you HAVE to buy a small amount of warbonds these next six months) to all the citizens of the CU-states: New Zealanders and East Timorians and Fijians and Micronesians, Kapp Verdians, Marian Islanders, Marshall Islanders... And conscripting and stuff.
Just a little loan Malaysia, please...

Oh hum, your 3,500 troops are on the DMZ with your express orders not to attack, send more if you want but I'm not going to badger about it.

 

[Goober]

South Vietnam votes aye on the subject of allowing non-South-East Asia Nations in and renaming SEATO

South Vietnam did too vote on the subject of renaming SEATO! South Vietnam is also giving 1 eco to the Stock Exchange, so South Vietnam can reap the rewards.

 

[fantasmo]

I voted on everything!

Aye to all that I'm undecided on except the one about the CU, to which I abstain.

THEREFORE, all of those get an AYE from Australia, except for the one about the CU's expellation, to which we ABSTAIN.

 

[Goober]

Insane panda has quit, so Japan is now NPC.

OOC - I have 2 NPCs again!!! Muahahaha!!!

Japan abstains on the issue of letting Iran in, and votes aye on the issue of renaming SEATO to APEATO.

 

[BananaLee]

No No No.
You've voted for that but I proposed another change: -

Malaysia proposes an amendment to the APETO charter.

- member states are not obligated to provide aid to other member states in wars which they have started themselves. However, individual member-states have all right to help if they so wish.

Malaysia votes aye

So far, Phillipines needs to vote for practically everything and the above proposal needs to be voted by S.Vietnam, CU, Phillipines and Japan.

Damn that Panda... I guess the policies are gonna change again.. :S

 

[Goober]

Ya, sure, Japan votes aye on that. And South Vietnam as well.

 

[Toteone]

The CU ABSTAINS on that one... it's hard to define who 'started' a war... I mean you'd pretty much have let the US wage pre-emptive warfare (pending espionage on secret ally) because I was a bit flustered and declared war (that I would defend myself).

I think we should let the SAR in as long as he abolishes apartheid slowly but not too slow.

 

[Toteone]

Australia, new Japanese player, I'm officially not at war with the SAR and the USA so if they attack me it wouldn't be me declaring war so are you willing to defend me now like you said you would if it was me getting ATTACKED?
I was never going to attack them anyway, that was all a misunderstanding - my declaration of war were an announcement that I would defend myself if invaded. The RSA has offered a cease fire and the US would look very bad to go to war now.
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Would you at least send peace-keeping forces under your own command to South Vietnam please? South Vietnam wants forces from the IC to strictly guard their border but I don't think that is going to happen.
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About the Expellation Vote

I did a count and it's 3 Nay, 1 Aye and 2 Abstains with 1 vote left
The Expellation vote fails!
[The huzzah!]

 

[Toteone]

The state of India has invaded several nations in the Middle East and let us not forget their crimes in Pakistan and Arabia against the muslims.
But mainly, they have invaded Qatar.
We should all know what this means.

Under the MPP which at the point of the invasion had not yet been dissolved (or decided upon) the nations of SEATO are required to declare war on India and reclaim the territory of Qatar.
I suggest we also liberate the rest of the middle east while we're at it and include them into SEATO, this shouldn't be too hard as the Vietnam war has passed, Russia has made peace with China through a communist government and the KMA and Malaysia have finished with Thailand.

And for the sake of it, help me free Qatar this round and I'll pay South Africa the blurdy firping 7 economy. *grumbles *

 

[#1 Person]

Abstain to all issue, yet again.

Edit- Fine, Aye on india!