ARCHIVED: Discussion Topic - Unit Lines

[Balthasar]

Re: the Fulgerator. For a stopgap at least, how about ruby sauce's Tesla Cannon? -Oz

Ruby Sauce's Tesla Cannon appears in the third era after researching Directed Energy Weaponry.

I remember playing a mod that had an immobile beam weapon that sort of looked like an observatory and could be targeted anywhere on the map. That weapon was sort of how I imagine the Fulgerator working. Now if only I could remember what mod that weapon was in....

 

[Blue Monkey]

an immobile beam weapon that sort of looked like an observatory

Sounds like one of the requested wonder splashes

 

[jlvfr]

It's a WMD, not an improvement (even a GW).

Yeah I know but my point is precisely to avoid WMDs. The computer uses them like popcorn thus ruining the game...

 

[Moosezilla]

I saw Atlantis the Lost Continent (again) and their solar powered weapon looked like it resulted in a WMD... Never could find the image...

 

[Blue Monkey]

I remember playing a mod that had an immobile beam weapon that sort of looked like an observatory and could be targeted anywhere on the map. That weapon was sort of how I imagine the Fulgerator working.

 

[Balthasar]

That's absolutely wonderful.

 

[Moosezilla]

not sure (link works) but the images in this trailer will give you the idea.(also at Youtube-Trailer for the movie: Atlantis, the lost Continent(1961)). maybe there is room for competing Death Rays?

 

[Ozymandias]

The spaceship looks like a dead ringer for the 1920s Flash Gordon series - of which someone made a fine unit of.

-Oz

 

[Blue Monkey]

The spaceship looks like a dead ringer for the 1920s Flash Gordon series

I'm certain that it's an homage - to the 1936 film serial.

- of which someone made a fine unit of.

-Oz

The only major difference between the film version & Flamand's is that in the serial the smoke drifts up, rather than blowing back with the flames. And you could see the strings it was hanging from.

 

[Balthasar]

And nobody remembers the death ray unit we once had here, and which I've used in at least one of the mods? I remember it distinctly, but more and more it's getting to be like one of those memories left over after they've changed the timeline or altered the Matrix....

 

[Blue Monkey]

And nobody remembers the death ray unit we once had here, and which I've used in at least one of the mods? I remember it distinctly, but more and more it's getting to be like one of those memories left over after they've changed the timeline or altered the Matrix....

I don't remember it. I know I took the red pill. Maybe it was before my time, as my grandmother used to say. Do you still have it, if you've used it? Is it one of things that needs to be reposted?

 

[Axolotl]

Full text of The Land Ironclads (including illustrated version) is hier.

Supposing there's room for it in the current incarnation of the Grand Unit Plan, this could serve as a scout or light-raider type unit.

 

[Blue Monkey]

If some of our very creative unit makers are covertly surveilling our project perhaps they will find some inspiration:

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Most of these images are by an artist named Keith Thompson.

Some things that make my mouth water:

• Armoured zeppelins with submarine stylistics
• Art Nouveau ornithopters
• Attack A grenade toss with pin-pull by arm strap
• Dirigible aircraft carriers
• Snipers with telescopic monocles
• SP-style settlers
• Corrugated metal body armor (anti-shrapnel?)
• Engraved-HK-inspired textures applied to combat vehicles

 

[Moosezilla]

Zeppelins were equipped to carry, launch and retrieve WWI aircraft. An idea of what you might like was the S.H.I.E.D. "helicarrier". Jim Steranko's vision could be SPed. try "fictional airborne aircraft carriers images" as a search. I like the Modern Mechanix cover. I went to helicarrier images and wow!

 

[jlvfr]

Zeppelins were equipped to carry, launch and retrieve WWI aircraft. An idea of what you might like was the S.H.I.E.D. "helicarrier". Jim Steranko's vision could be SPed. try "fictional airborne aircraft carriers images" as a search. I like the Modern Mechanics cover. I went to helicarrier images and wow!

Not WWI, post war. But it didn't work out (pity...):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F9C_Sparrowhawk

 

[Blue Monkey]

Zeppelins were equipped to carry, launch and retrieve WWI aircraft.

Not WWI, post war. But it didn't work out (pity...):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F9C_Sparrowhawk

I find references to proposals for Zeppelins, but no actual construction. Carrying of a parasite fighter, or the ability to merely launch a fighter, as with the R33, or the Akron & Macon, is not at all the same as being a flying carrier with the ability launch, land, refuel, rearm & repair. A more SP version of the platform in "Sky Captain".

 

[Blue Monkey]

I've started reading "Flashman & The Mountain of Light" - it took some digging to find some recreational reading that combines both Steampunk/Victoriana & my Indian hobbyhorse. Ideas ruminate & bubble up to consciousness while I'm entertained. This old exchange came to mind:

I was looking at the visual proximity of “Lost Worlds” & “Secret Bureau” on the diagram. The original of the “Lost Worlds” was from a drawing by Sir Thomas Stamford Bingley Raffles. Conflate him with the various fictitious “gentleman thief” Raffles & you’ve got a real Bond - “creeping about for Queen & Empire!” Actually I think the character is more of a perfect blend of Flashman & the Saint.

Believe me, I looked and looked for a way to get Raffles (and Racombole, and LeCoq, and John Devil, etc.) into this. In the end it was a balancing act between working with existing units, maintaining balance between the League of Gentlemen (the LOG) and the Evil Secret Society (the ESS), and avoiding units that looked alike, or duplicated each others' character.

I'm sure there will be some kind of Great Leader unit. We can undoubtedly & mutually come up with extensive lists for most of the civs out of names/characters like these.

 

[Moosezilla]

Maybe have them pop out of "goody huts" for good or evil?

 

[Blue Monkey]

Maybe have them pop out of "goody huts" for good or evil?

In the end it was a balancing act between working with existing units, ... and avoiding units that looked alike, or duplicated each others' character.

 

[Moosezilla]

I have seen 4 or 5 different unit types emerge from huts and different names for tribes. The agents "creeping about" could be a result of random "investigation". Further you could use a set per era.