Asian Mod

[Blue Monkey]

@ Blue Monkey, it would be difficult to make the heads into units, a lot of the props and clothes only look good at the frame's angle, and I would have to mess with animations and the size of character.

I understand. One can only dream.




Asoka is looking very good. I like the continuity from the Indus era indicated by his head-band. Justification by descent was a big thing for Indian rulers.

Suggested refinements: He's missing a yajnopavitam. ( 1 2 ) - It can be anything from a simple string/cord to the elaborate jewelry in the linked images. No ruler from the kshatrya caste would lack one. His clothing at present looks a little too "western". It would be perfectly acceptable for him to be bare shouldered & chested - as in the linked images.

Hope those suggestions are helpful. If not just ignore them.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

His clothing at present looks a little too "western".

Dang I was afraid you'd say that. I may go with the one strap, but I'm afraid of the clothing being over used. I'll post something later today after I go through all my props.

On clothing, I am used to seeing the Buddha dressed like this and I know the flowing robes comes from Greek influenced Kushan art. Are those robes something they would have worn in Northern India after Alexander or did they only make Buddhist statues like that because they liked Greek artwork?

 

[Bengal Tiger]

Just a random thought: How about making a wonder only available to the Phillipines(or requiring a resource located only under Manila) as well as a "Christian" government available in the 1500s that autoproduces conquistadores or something to that effect. Just to make it more interesting for the Phillipines.

Forgive me if this was already seen, I just wanted to be sure. Christianity shouldn't be completely left out, as it played a fairly big role in Asia; from the Phillipines to Portuguese missionaries in Japan to the boxer rebellion, imho anyway.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Dang I was afraid you'd say that. I may go with the one strap, but I'm afraid of the clothing being over used. I'll post something later today after I go through all my props.

On clothing, I am used to seeing the Buddha dressed like this and I know the flowing robes comes from Greek influenced Kushan art. Are those robes something they would have worn in Northern India after Alexander or did they only make Buddhist statues like that because they liked Greek artwork?

That style of Buddha is more East Asian. Kushans tended to dress in a mix of Greek and Central Asian fashion with some Indian elements, afaik. The Ghandaran style is syncretic - because of the Silk Road trade cultural influence moved both ways.

There are an overwhelming number of Indian statues, bas-reliefs, etc. with leaders portrayed bare-chested. IMHO that's the way to go. As posted above a narrow strap is sufficient. Even a cylindrical primitive appropriately draped should look fine.

Image from Ajanta clearly showing sacred string

Spoiler :

In general anything from the temples and caves of Ajanta and Ellora are excellent references for Indian clothing of the Classical and Medieval eras. The monuments at Sanchi (built by Asoka) as well. All classes of society & foreign pilgrims are represented there.

Typical examples of Gautama & other figures: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

If you absolutely need drapery something like this would be more accurate 1 2

 

[Kyriakos]

Will you be needing some regular buildings like

?

 

[ShiroKobbure]

@ Kyriakos, yes that would be great!

@ Bengal Tiger, I'm not sure how to handle Christianity. There were the early Nestorians who spread all the way to China on the Silk Road. I am also thinking that Russian Missionaries will be the only moveable unit for Russia.
I was also thinking of Christianity being a tech in the Medieval period after a tech called Western Learning, or something. And since there are no Hindu or Buddhist relics in the Philippians, they might be able to build a later Spanish crusader unit.

 

[Bengal Tiger]

@ Kyriakos, yes that would be great!

@ Bengal Tiger, I'm not sure how to handle Christianity. There were the early Nestorians who spread all the way to China on the Silk Road. I am also thinking that Russian Missionaries will be the only moveable unit for Russia.
I was also thinking of Christianity being a tech in the Medieval period after a tech called Western Learning, or something. And since there are no Hindu or Buddhist relics in the Philippians, they might be able to build a later Spanish crusader unit.

Well, if religions are being represented by governments, Christianity could be available in the 1500s as the Phillipines preferred government,

Also,do you mean Russia's only unit in the middle age that can move? Because you could probably put a huge stack of immobile units requiring no support that would upgrade to cossacks and such in the 1600s. Maybe lock them in a war with mongols for good measure.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

accidentally deleted the files, I've tried to use recovery software and was only able to get a few textures.

 

[Bengal Tiger]

Which files? Hopefully not all of them. I wish you luck in recovery/replacement.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

Some units for SE Asia
Cham Spearman, Khmer Spearman, Khmer Swordsman, Khmer Pekak-man, Khmer Knight
Ayuthhaya Spearman, Malay Tribal Spearman, Majapahit Spearman

Its really hard to find reference images for SE Asia pre-900 AD, and even for some, especially the Philippians, Malaysia, Indonesia its hard to find anything pre 1500s.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Bas-reliefs at Borobudur is in that range for Indonesia (900s iirc). Can't immediately think of anything else.

 

[Ogedei_the_Mad]

Did a quick search on the Sailendra and Sanjaya dynasties also. It's as Blue Monkey suggested - the best easily searchable online would be ancient reliefs at Borobudur temple. Not entirely sure if they're reflective of the attire of the Sailendra dynasty people; a lot of Buddhist artwork tends to be stylized to accord with local interpretations of India.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Not entirely sure if they're reflective of the attire of the Sailendra dynasty people; a lot of Buddhist artwork tends to be stylized to accord with local interpretations of India.

Judging by comparisons to Indian reliefs imho they're closer to local fashions. At minimum they differ from the Indian.

 

[Kyriakos]

Maybe you could use this as bonus grassland, or something:

 

[cemo1956]

The status on this pack would be nice to know.

 

[ShiroKobbure]

I decided to separate Vietnam into 2 civs Champa and Dai Viet.

Here are some Vietnamese units

Au Lac Axeman, Au Lac Swordsman, Cham Archer
Cham Spearman, Cham Swordsman, Dai Viet Pikeman

 

[Ogedei_the_Mad]

You're still working on this?

 

[ShiroKobbure]

I have my hands in many never ending projects.

 

[Takhisis]

Yes, my neverending project that is slightly connected to this one (Japan!) will restart sometime soon.

 

[T-mun]

I have missed your latest preview and have to say I really would like to get my hands on these great looking units. Take your time, I'll be patient - great units are worth waiting