Atlantis: What is it all about?

[Ajidica]

The Pyramids are a conspiracy cooked up by the Reptilians to make us think Atlantis existed.
I will not be taking questions.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Abydos temple has the story written on its walls and it's older story allegedly coming straight from the survivors, 9600BC.

Plato was absolutely right but his story is incomplete, because taken from a dialogue, but some parts may have been lost in translation.

The Temple of Seti I is now known as the Great Temple of Abydos. In antiquity, the temple was known as "Menmaatre Happy in Abydos," and is a significant historical site in Abydos. Abydos is a significant location with its connection to kingship due to being the burial site of the proto-kings from the Pre-Dynastic period, First Dynasty kings, and the location of the Cult of Osiris.>

Initially, construction started in the 13th century BC by the 19th Dynasty Pharaoh Seti I, also known as Sethos, but was not completed by the time of his death instead, construction was renovated by his son Ramesses II. The temple was built in order to commemorate and worship the earlier pharaohs of Egypt as well as the major gods of the Egyptian pantheon. Ramesses renovated the temple by changing its original design and placing inscriptions within the temple. At the Temple of Ramesses II at Abydos Ramesses states that "son arose in his father place, none of them restored the monument of him who begot him."

The Temple of Seti I was designed with a standard layout from the Ramesside period featuring a "L" shaped design constructed of limestone and sandstone possibly brought from Gebel Silsila. The temple boast many features, including the first and second courts that house hypostyle halls, chapels to Seti I and various gods, and the Osireion. The South wing houses the Gallery of the Kings, which leads to a slaughter court and four secondary rooms, which continues into the Corridor of Bulls with a stairway that exits into storage rooms, and the Hall of Barques.

The temple is also notable for the Abydos graffiti which is ancient Phoenician and Aramaic graffiti found on the temple walls. The Temple additionally contains graffito from the 21st dynasty till the Roman period then from Later periods ranging from Aramaic, Phoenician, Carian, Greek and Cypriot.

The helicopter hieroglyphs is a name given to part of an Egyptian hieroglyph carving from the Temple of Seti I at Abydos. It is a palimpsest relief with two overlapping inscriptions, the titles of Ramesses II superimposed on those of his father and predecessor Seti I. They have been wrongly interpreted as an out-of-place artifact depicting a helicopter and other examples of advanced technology, in pseudo-scientific ancient astronaut circles. The "helicopter", a product of pareidolia, is made up of a bow hieroglyph of Seti I, and two arm hieroglyphs of Ramesses II.

Helicopter hieroglyphs - Wikipedia

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I'm not sure what "older story" you are referring to. The "helicopter" glyph is the most famous "not true" item found there. As for Plato, his story was mostly made up but did reflect the demise of both the Minoan and Mycenean cultures as well as the eruption of Thera.

 

[Lazy sweeper]

The helicopter hieroglyphs is a name given to part of an Egyptian hieroglyph carving from the Temple of Seti I at Abydos. It is a palimpsest relief with two overlapping inscriptions, the titles of Ramesses II superimposed on those of his father and predecessor Seti I. They have been wrongly interpreted as an out-of-place artifact depicting a helicopter and other examples of advanced technology, in pseudo-scientific ancient astronaut circles. The "helicopter", a product of pareidolia, is made up of a bow hieroglyph of Seti I, and two arm hieroglyphs of Ramesses II.

Helicopter hieroglyphs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm not sure what "older story" you are referring to. The "helicopter" glyph is the most famous "not true" item found there. As for Plato, his story was mostly made up but did reflect the demise of both the Minoan and Mycenean cultures as well as the eruption of Thera.

I never talked about any helicopter or any strange thing like that. Sorry.
Are you aware of the Pre-platonic dialogues as well on the Titans traditions familiar to the Mycean culture?
This is not forbidden history.
Or some Nazca elongated skull mock-up or whatever those are, modern interpretations? Legit archeology?
What I refer to is legit, widespread scholar knowledgeable written dialogues and memoirs still debated today amongst... scholars...
Now if you excuse me... his story was mostly made up is so intrinsical insulting that I'd like to be left out of your quotes in the future.
I can't have any kind of conversation if those are your premises and beliefs.
There is also ONE Platonic university still active in Italy funded in the '500.
You would like to argue also its existance?
Probably you never heard of it...

Have a good read.
G.Bye.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I never talked about any helicopter or any strange thing like that. Sorry.
Are you aware of the Pre-platonic dialogues as well on the Titans traditions familiar to the Mycean culture?
This is not forbidden history.
Or some Nazca elongated skull mock-up or whatever those are, modern interpretations? Legit archeology?
What I refer to is legit, widespread scholar knowledgeable written dialogues and memoirs still debated today amongst... scholars...
Now if you excuse me... his story was mostly made up is so intrinsical insulting that I'd like to be left out of your quotes in the future.
I can't have any kind of conversation if those are your premises and beliefs.
There is also ONE Platonic university still active in Italy funded in the '500.
You would like to argue also its existance?
Probably you never heard of it...

Have a good read.
G.Bye.

You made this statement:

"Abydos temple has the story written on its walls and it's older story allegedly coming straight from the survivors, 9600BC."

and I went looking for what that might be since the temple dates only to the 13th C BCE. The "helicopter" glyph issue is the only oddball item that some people grasp as pointing to a high tech prior civ. I could not find any reference to a story about or from survivors going back to 9600 BCE. Could you point me to such a text?

I do not know how the Titans fit into his discussion, but would like to know your thinking on them. The only actual texts connected to Mycenean Greece that I am aware of are those written in Linear B. I am not aware of any of those that contain references to the Titans and their "story". The next (in time) reference comes from Homer with a full panoply of Greek Gods. Homer is usually dated to the late "Dark Age" 800-700 BCE as an oral tradition.

The pre Platonic sophists like Gorgias only date back to the 5th C and I do not see how they are connected to this topic. Who were the folks writing about the Titans prior to the 5th C BCE? Kindly explain it to me. You say that there are Titan traditions date back to Mycenean Greece; do you have a link for that?

What do you think are my premises and beliefs? I certainly think that most of Plato's descriptions about Atlantis are entirely made up as part of the dialogue/story he wanted to tell.

 

[Lazy sweeper]

What do you think are my premises and beliefs? I certainly think that most of Plato's descriptions about Atlantis are entirely made up as part of the dialogue/story he wanted to tell.

You made this statement, and I'm telling you, you say something like this at a public school final test in any college or Uni? You'll never get with a degree or anything.
That's more than reality, to me.
Plato broke a tradition revealing that story. He put it's life in real danger as it's enemies were very strong at the time.
You must be knowing so little I can't really help you, but it's ok with your believing.
History has been written by the winner over and over...

If your Quest is real, you need to get into that ONE university.
I don't have the answers you seek, if you are truly interested.
That's not a given path and no money in the world will give you that.

 

[Birdjaguar]

You made this statement, and I'm telling you, you say something like this at a public school final test in any college or Uni? You'll never get with a degree or anything.
That's more than reality, to me.
Plato broke a tradition revealing that story. He put it's life in real danger as it's enemies were very strong at the time.
You must be knowing so little I can't really help you, but it's ok with your believing.
History has been written by the winner over and over...

If your Quest is real, you need to get into that ONE university.
I don't have the answers you seek, if you are truly interested.
That's not a given path and no money in the world will give you that.

Hmmm....You seem to be saying that Plato was speaking the truth when he wrote about Atlantis; is that correct?

Do you think that his or any other Atlantis story is true?
What tradition did Plato break with his Atlantis dialogues?
How do you know Plato's life was in danger (and by whom) because he wrote Timaeus and Critias?

I am quite confused on what you believe/accept as true on this topic.

I have taught school (elementary and Middle); been to college, graduated; gone back for an advanced degree and graduated again.

EDIT: You haven't yet linked me to a site telling me about the Seti Temple inscription regarding the 9600 BCE people.

 

[danjuno]

He put it's life in real danger as it's enemies were very strong at the time.

They got what was comin' to em anyway.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Abydos temple has the story written on its walls and it's older story allegedly coming straight from the survivors, 9600BC.

Please post your source for this.