Atlas Shrugged

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So a COMPLETE STRANGER comes up to me today at the Mexican restaurant I am eating lunch at and tells me I should read Atlas Shrugged. I about fell out of my chair before taking umbrage at the fact that a complete stranger would come up to me and say anything at all.

That clinched it. That IS the next book I'm buying.
 
is that a popular book? if not he is maybe the author/a friend and thinks it is a good way to promote it. hey, it seems to work!
 
It is the second most influential book in the world after the Bible.

Maybe this person just goes around telling people to read Rand... :crazyeye:
 
ok, searched for it, it is nearly unknown in germany, next year a new translation is going to be published. the second most influential book ? from what I read it is only a book about business strategies
 
That's one of the next few books I'm going to read as well. I'm told it's very good and I quite like Ayn Rand, so good choice, I guess.
 
Newfangle can do better than I, but it is (I believe) an overview of her philosophy known as Objectivism...
 
i think i read it a long time ago. what's it about? much like for movies, my memory seems to stick to subject not title.
 
I wouldn't say it's been hugely influential, but that's only because relatively few people have read it. On a personal level, it was by far the most influential book I've ever read.

What is it about? Hmm...it's tough to describe, really. It's one of a kind. Suffice to say that Ayn Rand spent her formative years in a collectivist state, and didn't like it much.
 
An excellent book by one of the greatest minds of the 20th century :)
 
The very fact that someone would do that is exactly the reason why I refuse to read it. It's a frickin' cult book. Who cares how good it is; there is more than enough worthy reads out there to surrender to the Divine Will of Aieyne Rand and her frickin' acolytes.

R.III
 
I haven't read it, and I wouldn't say its the second most influential book to the Bible. I second stonesfan's point - not many people read it.

I agree with RIII though, from what I've heard it sounds cultish. Objectivism seems to me like anti-collectivism gone to a bad extreme. It goes from (this is based on what I've heard) "competition is good" to "serving myself is the ultimate good".

:hmm:

EDIT: And when it comes to influential books on personal levels, it varies by the person. Obviously.
 
The only reason Ive never read it is because its so incredibly boring. Every few years I try to force myself to read it all the way through and fail miserably.
 
*shrugs* :mischief:

I read Atlas Shrugged once. In the defense of sanity, I am forced to add that I had nothing else to read at the time ;)

Ms. Rand is among that celestial circle [which includes such luminaries as Hume, Wittgenstein, etc] who have made a philosophical profession out of being deliberately and compulsively anal. By obtusely struggling to prove a ridiculous and useless point, they ignore the greater meanings of the things they're investigating.

Ol' Ayn might even be right. The question is, who cares?
 
I actually did read it of my own free will ;). It is boring, unfortunately, though it does contain some interesting ideas.
 
Wow...

Well I read Dianetics once (I now like to refer to it as Dhiaretics) which was interesting until the last quarter of the book and then the 'cult' aspect came out full force.

I think I'll still give it a shot. L. Ron Hubbard didn't convert me, Jesus didn't convert me, I figure I have a good chance standing up to Rand.
 
Especially since Rand presents, from what I understand, a self-serving philosophy. :rolleyes:

The provocative title of Ayn Rand's The Virtue of Selfishness matches an equally provocative thesis about ethics. Traditional ethics has always been suspicious of self interest, praising acts that are selfless in intent and calling amoral or immoral acts that are motivated by self interest. A self-interested person, on the traditional view, will not consider the interests of others and so will slight or harm those interests in the pursuit of his own.

Rand's view is that the exact opposite is true: self-interest, properly understood, is the standard of morality and selflessness is the deepest immorality.

Self interest rightly understood, according to Rand, is to see oneself as an end in oneself. That is to say that one's own life and happiness are one's highest values, and that one does not exist as a servant or slave to the interests of others. Nor do others exist as servants or slaves to one's own interests. Each person's own life and happiness is his ultimate end. Self interest rightly understood also entails self-responsibility: one's life is one's own, and so is the responsibility for sustaining and enhancing it. It is up to each of us to determine what values our lives require, how best to achieve those values, and to act to achieve those values.

Rand's ethic of self interest is integral to her advocacy of classical liberalism. Classical liberalism, more often called "libertarianism" in the 20th century, is the view that individuals should be free to pursue their own interests. This implies, politically, that governments should be limited to protecting each individual's freedom to do so. In other words, the moral legitimacy of self interest implies that individuals have rights to their lives, their liberties, their property, and the pursuit of their own happiness, and that the purpose of government is to protect those rights. Economically, leaving individuals free to pursue their own interests implies in turn that only a capitalist or free market economic system is moral: free individuals will use their time, money, and other property as they see fit, and will interact and trade voluntarily with others to mutual advantage.

That is the philosophy in a nutshell. I think the most obvious fault is that usually putting one's happiness first results in damaging the happiness of another. The nature of our world is to get ahead by pushing the person under you down to push yourself up.
 
Maybe he had this sort of epiphany at the moment he saw you and thought: "Damn, this is exactly the guy that needs to read this book, although he doesn't know it yet!" And when he told you so he got back to his normal life... :hmm:
 
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