Peng Qi
Emperor
I imagine you won't be able to play as your modded Babylon if they create any multiplayer leagues or ranking systems, whereas people with the "official" Babylon will.
Babylon modded in for free?
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Tigernose
Chieftain
Can't you just copy all the files from the Deluxe Edition to mod it in? This is where it gets tricky though, as Firaxis might look into it, but they said themselves that this game is open to modding and they encourage it. The real problem is if this is pirating.
wolf_brother
King
By that logic that doing anything at all with any of the files is illegal; you're saying modding civ5 will be illegal
aMoralAtheist
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The order of characters and numbers CAN be copyrighted. At its core ALL digital content is 1s and 0s ordered in a myriad of ways. So you sir are wrong.
aMoralAtheist
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By that logic that doing anything at all with any of the files is illegal; you're saying modding civ5 will be illegal
It would be illegal, except Firaxas can and apparently does choose to waive its claim to certain aspects of the game. So yes its illegal to copy their art, or use anything at all in the core game to make a mod, unless they waive their protected claim, which they can choose to do for only certain [arts if they want.
By that logic that doing anything at all with any of the files is illegal; you're saying modding civ5 will be illegal
In civ IV modding didn't mean copying the whole game but rather referring it to the game for the art and animations
wolf_brother
King
Civ4 didn't have a deluxe edition with one added civ for an extra $10USD either
Civ V also has
- Behind the Scenes at Firaxis with Civ V video feature
- Game Soundtrack
That'll be a valid argument if it turns out we can buy Babylon separately for a reasonable price. As it stands, the only way to get Babylon is to pay 10USD for it along with "extras" that the majority of buyers don't care about, don't want, and wouldn't buy if we didn't have to for Babylon.
What did Civ IV have?
I'm not sure what you're asking, but I'm pretty sure we didn't have to buy 10 dollars of crap we didn't want just for one civ (which is exactly the same as 10 dollars for just the one civ). And the point the people in the thread are getting at is that illegally copying the Babylon files as a mod (if it can be done) is made a lot more tempting when we're presented with the choices of "10 dollars for Babylon" or "No professional quality Babylon, ever."
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
By that logic that doing anything at all with any of the files is illegal; you're saying modding civ5 will be illegal
You're not grasping one thing. The files are sold through the deluxe version. If you just have the original version, you don't physically have the files. In order to get those files, you'd have to download them from someone who has them. That is what is illegal here. Once you get the files, you are allowed to use them in your mod, but the mod would only work for those who have the files (you can't upload those files for other people, only refer to them in your system). That's the distinction there and why most modding with Civ5 will be perfectly fine.
It's the same way it worked with PTW and C3C, it's the same way it worked with Warlords and BTS.
Look at some of the leader heads that are being churned out now, some are quite nice and entirely new (as in not based off another). Initially there will likely be only a leader re-skin, but eventually they will be professional grade
Thank you for saying what I've been trying to say
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I expect they will (although pay to download, probably).
Yes, when someone tries to sell you something for more than you want to pay, that makes it more likely you will go and get it illegally.
Apparently your respect for the law is valued at around 10$. It is good to know.
There are people who will break the law for less, and others who will break the law for more. Your price is (about) 10$.
"And the point the people in the thread are getting at is that illegally copying the Babylon files as a mod (if it can be done) is made a lot more tempting when we're presented with the choices of "10 dollars for Babylon" or "No professional quality Babylon, ever."
I made no personal statements about my opinions or possible actions, I only stated what some people in the thread were getting at. Take your high horse somewhere else.
I made no personal statements about my opinions or possible actions, I only stated what some people in the thread were getting at. Take your high horse somewhere else.
I think for the sake of keeping all civ players on the same level, Babylon and any other DLC civ will be included in the first expansion. Then they might have more civs, and have that and everything from the first exp included in the second, like how BtS included everything from warlords. Or at least I hope that is what they do. If so, they should definitely give a heads up to people buying the stand alone civs that they're only paying money to get this stuff early.
