Babylon - What would we need for peace?

[Furiey]

We are just starting to plan for our war with Babylon. But someone could spoil our plans – Hammurabi – he could ask for peace! (well in an infinite universe…) We therefore need to consider, what terms would we accept for peace? This will obviously change over time depending on how our war progresses, but we could be asked in the first session. There are several possibilities that I can see:

• Reject all offers until our military objectives are complete
• Accept all offers no matter what it costs us
• Reject all offers including our cities
• Reject all offers including techs
• Reject all offers including contacts
• Reject offers over a certain value of gold
• Only accept offers of equality or better
• When our 20 turn alliances expire

We need to get something planned for the next session, just in case we’re offered the deal of a lifetime and can’t take it because we haven’t discussed it! Please post your views and any other possibilities you can see.

edited to add option about alliances expiring - thanks tao/Sarevok

 

[Sarevok]

As Minister of Defense, I will only accept terms of Equality or better.

 

[tao]

Make alliances with everybody else and and don't agree to peace before either 20 turns or everybody else has broken their agreement with us.

 

[Sarevok]

that is another condition for suing for peace on my view.

 

[Furiey]

Poll for Conditions for Peace with Babylon is posted here

 

[Furiey]

The vote in the poll was accept peace when our alliances expire and for terms of equality or better.

After 10 turns of war, and destroying Nippur, Babylon will now talk to us and give us 39 gold and their Wold Map for Peace! This satisfies the equality or better part of the peace criteria, however we still have 10 more turns to go on our alliance with Russia.

So it looks like another 10 turns then try again or does anyone feel that we need to revise our criteria?

 

[Gravitas]

I was looking and i dont know if we want to givem republic but if we do we can get monotheism and all gold (39)+World Map

 

[Sarevok]

wait till the alliance expires, then go for peace. Looks like we are goinng to win this war.

 

[Rik Meleet]

There is no urgent need to make peace soon. This war isn't harming us really. No cities are captured or razed. In fact no cities are under thread. That is; our cities aren't. Our units are holding out reasonably well. Best of all; Our alliance with Russia seems to attract most, if not all, of the Babylonian's attention. We aren't suffering from War weariness and Babylon hasn't succeeded in signing alliances against us (although that might happen soon). And if they do sign alliances, who could harm us ?
Egypt? ; I bet we'd love to throw them out of our Sid-given lands.
India ? ; We still have to capture a jungle city from them.
Germany ? they'd have to march through our ally's lands to meet us.
Greece ? Phoney-war.
Russia ? Now that would be unpleasant. But it would mean the Fana-Russian alliances is broken, which allows us to sign peace with Babylon.

So no need to make peace now. Let's not sacrifice our reputation.

 

[Sarevok]

Indeed, perhaps we should end the war when there is no more profit anymore. I think we can cause Babylon some serious issues now that they are focused on Russia.

 

[Point13]

heck, we could take Babylon!

 

[zorven]

Lets honor our remaining 10 turns of our alliance, and then pursue an equal or better peace treaty.