Battlefield 2 Demo

Gainy bo said:
Liberation of Caen..
Oh, That's an okay level, though it's too easy to fall off the roofs.
And there was that open topped scout car, and the open topped tank....
you could use it for armour and transport, if you jumped onto the back and into the cabin-it would protect you from gunfire and shells, and hen thetank did explode, it would jsut eject you straight up 20 feet, so you could use your chute.
 
The demo doesn't work for me :(.

Whenever I try to start a game on singleplayer ot multiplayer it just freezes (well nothing loads but the music etc continues and it's impossible to quit the game).
 
I got the full version now, it's great. Even got a new video card for it, hurray. Unfortunately the game crashes randomly (CTD), which is a real pity. I've just installed a new nvidia driver, I hope that fixes it.
Unfortunately unfinished games don't get logged to the stats server. I hope they'll change/fix that.
 
I thought stats were counted no matter what..? Kinda dumb that you can do really bad and quit right before the end and not have it count... Plus I did pretty well yesterday and BF2 crashed and I hope my stats saved... Got some special award...

I need a new video card but can still run it on all low settings (hurrah..). Or at least get some more RAM..
 
Really, I have no clue about the stats, but all I know is that not all my stats are saved. I'm only playing on ranked servers, but in the BFHQ all I see are the few games I could play 'till the end (due to crashes, obviously). My guess is that the game will only be truely playable for me after two or three patches, plus two or three driver updates.

The new nvidia drivers didn't make it better (it only seems worse), but the feedback on the nvidia forum is really bad about this version so I guess they'll come up with a new version quickly.

At least I checked today if the crashes could be heat-related: my (new!) graphics card doesn't give off a lot of heat, so I guess that's okay. The point is that I have no other clue what it could be aside from the nvidia driver (and I'm a total noob besides). All I can do is pray for patches and drivers. EA already announced a new patch for next week or so, but the fixes list doesn't really show anything about stability.

Oh, one more thing. I've registered my nick (guess which one ;) ) with the bf2 demo. It was my old gamespy nick. But somehow I can't register it with EA. Anybody got a clue?

Aside from the crashes, this game is everything I hoped for. Truely great! The one thing that's really annoying is the server browser. EA already promised All Seeing Eye support though!
 
Shabbaman said:
Oh, one more thing. I've registered my nick (guess which one ;) ) with the bf2 demo. It was my old gamespy nick. But somehow I can't register it with EA. Anybody got a clue?

Do you mean you registered the account in the BF2 demo but can't get it to appear in the full version?

If not, just go to retrieve account and enter the email/password you used to register it. After it connects to the auth server it should appear on the log in screen.

And I don't think the gamespy log in matters since I registered WildFire444 for gamespy and still have to register for every gamespy supported game.

Cheers!
 
i only have thedemo, but so far theres way to many problems, i think i might stick to BF42 instead.

1.The guns are way to innacurate, I used to hit targets dead on at 800 meters with an m-16, in this game you cant hit crap.
2.the M1A2 abrams does NOT sound like that!!!
3.That sprint function is unbalancing(screw SMAW rockets, i can just sprint up to a tank and slap a c4 on it)
4.Theres f-22s in it.........that just doesnt make sence
5.The damn radar targeting makes complete dumbasses expert pilots, in BF42 it takes skill.
6.Its all a bunch of little punks online rite now and all they wanna do is think of themselves and try and get the highest score, i called for my squad and they weresayingstuff like,"dude youactually use that fucntion" and other thing along those lines. NOONE want to work together.
7.the naions are dumb, middle eastern coalition makes me laugh and the Chinese?why the chinese?
8.An su-22 can in no way shape or form take on an f-15 or 16 in aerial combat,period. Just as a t-90(mayby 94 to hard to tell in the game) cannot penetrate an M1A2 abram unless its at extreme close range(under 50 meters mayby) and yet every round fired penetrates.
9.The artillary strikes make no sence, i stood next to the artiallary gun when i striek was going on, and besides the fact that the gun wasnt even firing it was dishing out to much hurt.
10.I needed a tenth one, you cant sink the damn carrier in gulf of oman, thats just gay.

but the graphics are pretty good(i just got a new card and can jump it all up to high settings,hoo-ah!) and the weopons are all realistic(in terms of names,looks,ammunition).
 
1.The guns are way to innacurate, I used to hit targets dead on at 800 meters with an m-16, in this game you cant hit crap.
No, the guns aren't way too inaccurate, you just suck. What relevance the 800 metres thing has is beyond me - it's a computer game ffs.
2.the M1A2 abrams does NOT sound like that!!!
omfg bin the game now
3.That sprint function is unbalancing(screw SMAW rockets, i can just sprint up to a tank and slap a c4 on it)
The sprint function is a great feature, not unbalancing in the slightest. If the tanker puts himself in a position where people can sneak up on him/her, (s)he deserves to get blown up. I'm just guessing you've not played against anyone decent.
4.Theres f-22s in it.........that just doesnt make sence
Yeah, that one confused the hell out of me...

:hmm:
5.The damn radar targeting makes complete dumbasses expert pilots, in BF42 it takes skill
It doesn't take much skill in BF42. It doesn't take much skill in BF2. Either way, what does it matter? If it was difficult to bomb things people would be complaining about tanks/whatever being overpowered. And btw, planes are a lot less effective in BF2 than in BF42.
6.Its all a bunch of little punks online rite now and all they wanna do is think of themselves and try and get the highest score, i called for my squad and they weresayingstuff like,"dude youactually use that fucntion" and other thing along those lines. NOONE want to work together.
You met a couple of unwilling-teamworkers in a server. Liek omg. The other couple of hundred thousand (or even million) people that play the game must be exactly like them!!
7.the naions are dumb, middle eastern coalition makes me laugh and the Chinese?why the chinese?
That's got to be up there as one of the most stupid points you've tried to make. The world's main (powerful) cultures are basically just Western/Middle eastern/Far eastern.
Western= America
Middle E = MEC
Far east = China
Everywhere is represented.
What's laughable about the MEC btw?
And why is China being in the game any more ridiculous than USMC?
8.An su-22 can in no way shape or form take on an f-15 or 16 in aerial combat,period. Just as a t-90(mayby 94 to hard to tell in the game) cannot penetrate an M1A2 abram unless its at extreme close range(under 50 meters mayby) and yet every round fired penetrates.
You're damn right. That really does bother me! I mean it's not like GAMES are meant to be FUN and BALANCED.
9.The artillary strikes make no sence, i stood next to the artiallary gun when i striek was going on, and besides the fact that the gun wasnt even firing it was dishing out to much hurt.
Erm, yes. Well said :confused:
10.I needed a tenth one, you cant sink the damn carrier in gulf of oman, thats just gay.
Refer to #8

kthxbye
 
1.oh god, the gunsare innacurate, your the only person ive heard not say that. If you stand stilla nd fire fully auto witht the m-16 at a stationary target from about 20 feet in game only 6 out of the thirty rounds(on average,and yes, my friend and i actually tested this) will actually hit the person. You telling em thats notinacurate, even on single shot(we neer averaged it) still only about 13 of the thrity rounds hit!Only 13!

2.Sound is very important to a game(the second most important thing IMO) and if the Abrams 1500 jet turbine engine sounds like the local ice cream truck thats not good. If the 120 MM cannon firing sounds like a damn cork gun, thats just plain ridiculous.

3.When in a tank, just like in bf1942, you looking through that small slot, in 1942 you could constantly check all your sides and still have a 75/25 chance of kiling a guy sneaking up on you.In this, all you do is wait for the tank to look away and bam, in about 2 seconds flat your on it with a c4 charge. It doesntmatter how good you are, you dont have eyes all around your tank.

4.Im not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but the ari-force currentlyhas only five f/a-22 raptors which havnt even been used yet. Thats why its stupid.

5.You obviously dont 1942 that much,do you. If your target is a complete dumbass then yes,hes easy to shoot down. But most people try to outmanuver the enemy in a dogfight, it takes skill on battlefield, in bf2, stand back far enough, lock and they can kiss there ass goodbyeno matter how hard you try to outmanuver.

6.OMG, dont be an idiot, you know what i mean. Most people on the demo are just a bunch of punks who dont wanna work together, theyde rather go of on their own,screw the team and just try to be number oneon the map. I even accidentaly killed a guy and he didnt fogive me saying he had to get a better score. Thats sad.

7.When will there ever be a middle eastern coalition, never. When will they have weoponry that can actually match americs or even chinas, not in a very long time. And I think russia would have been a lot better eastern nation to throw in instead of china.

8.I realize its for balance, but for those of us who actually know what these machines are capable of that bothers us. SU-22s are reverse wing, sub-sonic fighters with bad climb. It almost looks downrite ******** to see an f-15 getting smoked by 1.

9.Well, its true the arty strikes are way overpowered.

10. In bf 1942 you could sink the carriers, in dc you could sink the carriers, in vietnam you could sink the carriers. So how is this unbalancing again?
 
Will it work on a MX440 ?

AMD2400xp 1gig Ram nforce2 120gig segateHDD ???
 
1) Sprayed a clip whilst standing without properly aiming at a distance of 20ft, 6/30 bullets hit, you're complaining? That's easily enough to kill someone without even 'concentrating'.
You do know zooming in/lying down/crouching/burst fire/single shot will improve your accuracy?
Initially you said 'The guns are way to innacurate' 'in this game you cant hit crap', would you rather have it that if you sprayed a 30 bullet clip at someone that every bullet would hit?
I have had no issues with killing people, I can hit crap. As I said, it's either you suck hard or you've just got the wrong technique.

2) I can't say i've seen or heard too many tanks in my life, but I (or anyone i've spoken to) have had no issues with cork guns nor ice-cream vans.

3) The maps are more open in BF1942, less places to hide. That's the main reason you didn't get mined/expacked as often as you do now.
You are complaining about teamwork, then also complain about inf sneaking up on tanks? Ask for UAV's, scans, attack flags when in squads, stick with your teammates.
If you still want to go it alone, you can always just toggle through the different views (press C) - then you do have eyes on the back of your head. If you were any good, you would know this ;)

4) Well BF2 is set in a post-modern/futuristic battlefield, in which it says it uses 'state of the art' weapons/vehicles. So again, I don't see your problem here..

5) I am as experienced as you will get in BF1942.
There's 3 types of pilots in it. People who gain a lot of height right at teh start and wait for the opponents to show themselves (then swoop down and own), people who get a fair bit of height but are willing to engage in 'proper' dogfights, or just noobs who don't know what they're doing. If there were 3 pilots on the same map all of the same skill level (but each used a different one of those techniques), then the person who just gained a heck of a lot of height would win every time.
This is no different in BF2. ('stand back far enough, lock and they can kiss there ass goodbye')
Btw, you do know you can use flares to ward off the plane's lock on/missiles??

6) Don't generalize. You'll always get those who don't want to work in a team, purely cause they're too stupid or they just can't be bothered. This was no different in BF1942.
However, I have found the amount of teamwork on public servers to have increased dramatically (in comparison).

7) How do you know? It has happened in the past, it could happen again. Regardless, it's all just there to make the game balanced. So what if the weapons aren't as good in real life? It makes the game fair.

8) I'm sure there were lots of historical/technological faults in BF1942 as well - hence the 'Forgotten Hope' mod. To the majority though, it does not matter in the slightest.
It's the same in everything. People who are knowledgable in certain fields are never happy with Hollywood's respresentation of it, same in computer games.
If they named the jets 'bob's really cool plane 1/2/3/4' etc would it make you feel better? That's all it would take to solve your problem.

9) No. You can easily run away from them, if not, just hide in a building. Even better, at the start of the game, go and destroy the enemy's artillery.

10) The main focus would then be on destroying/defending the carrier - that is boring. Making them unsinkable then assures an equal footing for both sides, much more balanced.

Stop whining, i'm right, get over it ;) The full game is much better than the demo :D

Will it work on a MX440 ?
There's a few models of Geforce 4 that it will run on, but i'm pretty certain that isn't one of them. Even so, you'd have to download/apply this thing - and it makes the game look like utter crap.
The rest of your computer is fine tho. Just get a new gfx card (and maybe an Audigy 2 soundcard if you don't already have one)
 
1.oh god, the gunsare innacurate, your the only person ive heard not say that. If you stand stilla nd fire fully auto witht the m-16 at a stationary target from about 20 feet in game only 6 out of the thirty rounds(on average,and yes, my friend and i actually tested this) will actually hit the person. You telling em thats notinacurate, even on single shot(we neer averaged it) still only about 13 of the thrity rounds hit!Only 13!

If you fire full auto they will not be accurate. This is a known fact in many games. Use short bursts and you will be more accurate.

2.Sound is very important to a game(the second most important thing IMO) and if the Abrams 1500 jet turbine engine sounds like the local ice cream truck thats not good. If the 120 MM cannon firing sounds like a damn cork gun, thats just plain ridiculous.

Who cares? 90% of people who play have probably never heard a real one(like myself), so who really cares?

3.When in a tank, just like in bf1942, you looking through that small slot, in 1942 you could constantly check all your sides and still have a 75/25 chance of kiling a guy sneaking up on you.In this, all you do is wait for the tank to look away and bam, in about 2 seconds flat your on it with a c4 charge. It doesntmatter how good you are, you dont have eyes all around your tank.

That's what the gunner is for. And if you switch views you can see all around, so I don't really see what you're complaining about.

4.Im not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but the ari-force currentlyhas only five f/a-22 raptors which havnt even been used yet. Thats why its stupid.

It's a game. It's not meant to be realistic. So it's not stupid.

5.You obviously dont 1942 that much,do you. If your target is a complete dumbass then yes,hes easy to shoot down. But most people try to outmanuver the enemy in a dogfight, it takes skill on battlefield, in bf2, stand back far enough, lock and they can kiss there ass goodbyeno matter how hard you try to outmanuver.

I don't know who you've been flying against(they must be morons), but getting a missile lock is not a guaranteed hit. Missiles regularly miss.

6.OMG, dont be an idiot, you know what i mean. Most people on the demo are just a bunch of punks who dont wanna work together, theyde rather go of on their own,screw the team and just try to be number oneon the map. I even accidentaly killed a guy and he didnt fogive me saying he had to get a better score. Thats sad.

Unfortunately I agree with you here. Too many tards on the server who always punish, even if it was an accident, or drive over your mines and then punish. Hopefully they'll fix the punish feature in a patch, I've seen some good suggestions regarding it.

However, in saying that, there's been a few times where I've joined up with some guys who actually work together, and those have been the best times I've had with bf2. :)

7.When will there ever be a middle eastern coalition, never. When will they have weoponry that can actually match americs or even chinas, not in a very long time. And I think russia would have been a lot better eastern nation to throw in instead of china.

Again, this is a game. They aren't trying to be 100% realistic, and in case you didn't notice, the MEC is using russian equipment, so they're basically russia. ;)

8.I realize its for balance, but for those of us who actually know what these machines are capable of that bothers us. SU-22s are reverse wing, sub-sonic fighters with bad climb. It almost looks downrite ******** to see an f-15 getting smoked by 1.

See my response to point 2.

9.Well, its true the arty strikes are way overpowered.

I disagree. I've been in an apc in the middle of an arty strike and not died. They're not that powerful against tanks and other armoured vehicles, but are powerful against infantry.

10. In bf 1942 you could sink the carriers, in dc you could sink the carriers, in vietnam you could sink the carriers. So how is this unbalancing again?

Because the us need somewhere to spawn? On most maps where there is a carrier, it's the only place for the us to spawn without capturing any other flags.
 
I really like this game, and as for the guns being inaccurate, I agree to an extent. If you try to hit a target 50+ yards away with an AK-47 on full auto, there is a very slim chance that you're going to hit what your aiming at, but this is how it should be, or at least I think it should be. If you take your weapon OFF of full-auto, and put it to semi-auto and use your iron sights you can hit targets from 200+ yards away. I have had much success hitting people from 200+ yards with an AK in that respect, but you gotta remember to put it back on full-auto before you go into close range, because semi-auto sucks for close range fights.
 
About the only time you should use full auto is at point blank range. Short bursts at medium ranges, and semi-auto at long ranges to be accurate. :)
 
FYI, the reason why they have F-22s in the game is because the game is set 10 years into the future. By then, F-22s should be in full service.
 
ok, the innacuracy deal, i play bf1942 alot(either under "TheJungle" or "Back In Black" regularly on the Disciples of Railriders server;)) and im a full time gunner, i know about the whole short bursts deal(i do it even at close range) but ive become known amongst the disciples members for shooting with a bar 1918 and hitting people from so far away that people have actually claimed theres a sniper in base. The guns in BF2 are to innacurate for me to do that, i guess there sortov acurate, but not accurate enough for me. I like turning the corner and killing a guy in 2 shots(one in the chest for safety and one in the head) but so far am unable to do that. Then again, i only have the demo, so mayby there more acurate in the real deal.Who knows.

and on 1942 50cal.gunners are dead before they even get in the tank,although in bf2 there is now turret ducking. I wonder if being a gunner now is plausable......

edit:and i didnt know it was set 10 years in the future!!!
 
Been too busy to DL the demo (woudn't really have time to test it anyway).

All I have to go on is reviews and forums.

From what I can tell:

Weapon inaccuracy: This is good. Absurdly high accuracy in BF42 unbalanced things too much (i.e. sniper gods). Now, close combat is inevitable...which is good because this is an arcade-style game and not a military sim: you should have to work (a bit) for your kill--just not have to hit a guy 100 times a la Unreal.

Only problem is the sniper rifle, which is apparently highly ineffective (I've read that even pro gamers--the type that can get a headshot in the time it takes to blink--have trouble getting any decent hits with it). Really too bad (for me at least, as I love fragging enemies--especially enemy snipers--just when they're about to waste one of my guys).

I'm glad they went with the ironsights though--better then zoomed w/crosshairs IMO.

Thing is, there's plenty of info on the big features but virtually nothing on the details.

Questions:

- Aside from sprinting, what else can you do?
- What exactly happens when something explodes near you?
- What objects can/can't you shoot through?
- Is the smoke grenade effective?
- Is there a quick grenade feature (i.e. 1 button throws grenade then swithces back)?
- Are there functional guages in the vehicles' driver position (e.g. you you can tell how high you are, how fast you are going,what your angle of attack and direction is)?
- How does the AI behave? Is it omniscient? Does it have near-perfect accuracy? Do the bots respond to orders?


BTW, here's a site that helps deal with the crashing problems (I noticed quite a few compaints): http://www.tweakguides.com/BF2_1.html


On more question: from a gamer's point of view, are the graphics really worth all the trouble?
 
- Aside from sprinting, what else can you do?

Shoot people? Capture flags? Drive stuff?

- What exactly happens when something explodes near you?

The screen blurs a bit and the noise volume lowers.

- What objects can/can't you shoot through?

Dunno, haven't really noticed anything. I do know however that you can shoot pilots in choppers with the unlocked sniper rifle. :)

- Is the smoke grenade effective?

It could be effective in hiding your movements, but it doesn't seem to get much use.

- Is there a quick grenade feature (i.e. 1 button throws grenade then swithces back)?

No.

- Are there functional guages in the vehicles' driver position (e.g. you you can tell how high you are, how fast you are going,what your angle of attack and direction is)?

I assume you're talking about planes/choppers. They have altitude/speed shown on your hud.

- How does the AI behave? Is it omniscient? Does it have near-perfect accuracy? Do the bots respond to orders?

That's one thing I noticed when I first started playing singleplayer in the demo. Bots actually did what I asked. :)
 
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