At least that's what I've heard.
Shame on them, not that I care that much about the Eurovision.
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Shame on them, not that I care that much about the Eurovision.
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Belgian and Swedish TV told voters not to vote for Israel in Eurovision
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philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
well i think he said that we shouldnt vote for isreal becuase it was a bad song...
No you didn't. You are one of two things:
a) A very naive person
or
b) A liar
Since when Eurovision TV broadcasters tell who to vote for and who not to?
And there were much worse songs anyway
Don't try to protect the politication and brain washing that obviously goes on in European countries of the likes of Belgium.
I. Don't buy Israeli products (Some countries even patched them... but then stopped due to morals I guess (Damn morals)).
II. Don't vote for Israel in the Eurovision
III. Boycott the Israeli Academia
IV. Boycott the Israeli economy
Belgium and Belgian residents are the number one promoters of those steps, I shouldn't be surprised one of them got on TV and had it "split out" of his mouth.
philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
so?as long as our country thinks your a brutal racist warmonger they support the actions.....
we goddamnit almost invaded austria to get it rid of extreme right....
but i think you should kidnap arafat and that he should held in prison for terrorism
we goddamnit almost invaded austria to get it rid of extreme right....
but i think you should kidnap arafat and that he should held in prison for terrorism
Håkan Eriksson
Commander of the Swedes.
The Swedish two commentaries sad:
PERSON A: "Israel might not get so many votes becouse of the political situation".
PERSON B: "Atleast I would give them a zero".
And from this they get:
1. Reported to the police
2. Accused of being Antisemite
3. Accused of being pretty much natzist people.
4. Hung out in the press by Jeewich people.
5. Accused of telling people to not vote for Israel.
I think this says more about the Israels allways saying "YOU Antisemite" when some one comment the conflict.
PERSON A: "Israel might not get so many votes becouse of the political situation".
PERSON B: "Atleast I would give them a zero".
And from this they get:
1. Reported to the police
2. Accused of being Antisemite
3. Accused of being pretty much natzist people.
4. Hung out in the press by Jeewich people.
5. Accused of telling people to not vote for Israel.
I think this says more about the Israels allways saying "YOU Antisemite" when some one comment the conflict.
Where did I mention the word 'antisemite' in this thread?
It's nice you are putting words in my mouth.
Anyway a TV commentar saying "I would give them zero" in response to the first commentar saying "They might not get" IS inviting not to vote for Israel.
It's like reminding the viewers not to vote for Israel by commenting such a line. They should shut up and let the fair competition continue, based on Music and Music only and not their Anti-Israeli political crap.
I don't know about 1, perhaps you could show me.
I didn't say anything of 2.
Never saw anything like 3.
They deserve to be hung in the press for un-fairness and extra-judicial commentary.
And they did tell people not to vote for Israel. That's the interpertation I see of the second sentence.
It's nice you are putting words in my mouth.
Anyway a TV commentar saying "I would give them zero" in response to the first commentar saying "They might not get" IS inviting not to vote for Israel.
It's like reminding the viewers not to vote for Israel by commenting such a line. They should shut up and let the fair competition continue, based on Music and Music only and not their Anti-Israeli political crap.
I don't know about 1, perhaps you could show me.
I didn't say anything of 2.
Never saw anything like 3.
They deserve to be hung in the press for un-fairness and extra-judicial commentary.
And they did tell people not to vote for Israel. That's the interpertation I see of the second sentence.
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
Shock horror Eurovision voting is political?!?
I think Israel should do what we Brits do when Eurovision is on. Laugh at all the rubbish European music and when you don't win blame it on 'political voting'. I tell you the France have never given us 12 points.
I think Israel should do what we Brits do when Eurovision is on. Laugh at all the rubbish European music and when you don't win blame it on 'political voting'. I tell you the France have never given us 12 points.
Hitro
Feistus Raclettus
Well first, the whole contest is a big display of bad and low quality music so it would be justified to say that about practically every song.
Indeed, but if you're honest you can't deny that the Israeli song (called "Light a candle") was a pretty obvious attempt at scoring with (peace) politics. Maybe that should have been left out either...
knowltok2
Deity
Whoaa!!! Can someone fill me in on when Belgium almost invaded Austria? My watching o news is sporadic I'll admit, but I think I would have heard of this.
Hitro
Feistus Raclettus
Exactly.
And of course it's just a coincidence that Cyprus and Greece always give 12 points for each other. Same with the Scandinavians frequently voting for each other, as well as the Baltic countries, the UK and Ireland, Austria and Germany, ...
2 Articles to back up my points.
The jerusalem post says, amongst:
http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Full&cid=1021813241342
Haaretz adds:
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=168733&sw=told+not+to+vote+
The jerusalem post says, amongst:
http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Full&cid=1021813241342
Haaretz adds:
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=168733&sw=told+not+to+vote+
philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
well when HAIDER came to power we where the first to say:BOOOOO!Originally posted by knowltok2
Whoaa!!! Can someone fill me in on when Belgium almost invaded Austria? My watching o news is sporadic I'll admit, but I think I would have heard of this.
we hate extreme right.
we even got laws against it...
still the extreme right party is growing....
when they rule they will split our little country in 2!!!!!!
and so when we heard that haider came to power our foreign minister:louis michel said:"dont go to austria on holiday".
thats what i meant
knowltok2
Deity
Originally posted by philippe
well when HAIDER came to power we where the first to say:BOOOOO!
we hate extreme right.
we even got laws against it...
still the extreme right party is growing....
when they rule they will split our little country in 2!!!!!!
and so when we heard that haider came to power our foreign minister:louis michel said:"dont go to austria on holiday".
thats what i meant
I'll chalk it up to the language barrier. There is a bit of a difference between invasion and not going someplace on holiday.
Hitro
Feistus Raclettus
Now are you for keeping politics out of the contest or not?Originally posted by IceBlaZe
Oh yes, forgive Israel that at a time of terror and war, they send a singer who sings a popular song for peace
Btw, the German commentator spoke bad about half a dozen of songs (and they all WERE bad), so are these countries protesting now?
Look at that stupid contest as what it is. A display of bad music mixed with nationalism. For decades some countries generally didn't give points to Germany in it, no matter what kind of song was sent. Everybody knew it was connected to politics that's how it works...
joespaniel
Unescorted Settler
Iceblaze -
I was more surprised that the popular Palastinian song "blowing my a$$ to Allah" wasnt even in the running.
Seriously, Isrealis are now suffering the same indignities as we Americans in the months after Sept 11th.
The world will never be in short supply of big-mouths attached to small-minds.
Personaly, I dont let it bother me anymore.
I was more surprised that the popular Palastinian song "blowing my a$$ to Allah" wasnt even in the running.
Seriously, Isrealis are now suffering the same indignities as we Americans in the months after Sept 11th.
The world will never be in short supply of big-mouths attached to small-minds.
Personaly, I dont let it bother me anymore.
Hitro
Feistus Raclettus
Wasn't there a huge outburst of solidarity with the U.S. after Sept. 11th? Did you forget that already or did you never notice it?
Israel got far less support...
When Håkan said that he was refering to the debate here in Sweden, not your post.
I do think you are heavily overreacting about this. Obviously your media has misinterpreted the situation and I can assure you most Swedes have nothing against Israel or the Israeli people. Many Swedes do disagree with your military policies, but that is another matter.
animepornstar
Deity
Claes Åkeson: "Vi närmar oss det tionde bidraget, ett bidrag som en del menar inte skulle få vara med, med tanke på hur de hanterar sin konflikt med Palestina".
Christer Björkman: "Ja, alltså, jag har jättesvårt för den här låten. Det är ett praktfullt pekoral""
translated by me:
cå: "we are now coming closer to the tenth song, a song that some people says should not be allowed, because of how they are handling their conflict in palestina."
cb: "yes, that is to say, i don´t like this song. it´s a proper pekoral (i don´t now how to if there is a similar word in english, but pekoral means "a text with serious aim that gives a not intentional comical impression ")
it was really hard to translate those lines, but i hope you understand what really was said now. i hardly think that they told voters to note vote for israel because of any politics.
and yes, one person reported it to the police.
Christer Björkman: "Ja, alltså, jag har jättesvårt för den här låten. Det är ett praktfullt pekoral""
translated by me:
cå: "we are now coming closer to the tenth song, a song that some people says should not be allowed, because of how they are handling their conflict in palestina."
cb: "yes, that is to say, i don´t like this song. it´s a proper pekoral (i don´t now how to if there is a similar word in english, but pekoral means "a text with serious aim that gives a not intentional comical impression ")
it was really hard to translate those lines, but i hope you understand what really was said now. i hardly think that they told voters to note vote for israel because of any politics.
and yes, one person reported it to the police.
joespaniel
Unescorted Settler
Originally posted by Hitro
Wasn't there a huge outburst of solidarity with the U.S. after Sept. 11th? Did you forget that already or did you never notice it?
Israel got far less support...
I was refering to teenage euro-dorks here at CFC.
As for international support for the US, I noticed very much.
In all seriousness, thanks Germany.
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