Best Sullla AI Moments

[Fippy]

While we wait for new stuff i did let some old ones run..still fun, especially when endings like this happen
(i hope copy link at current YT time works)

 

[Thrasybulos]

When you mentioned ending, I thought you were refering to this one...

 

[Fippy]

Was that Wang's only win (or steal) in all seasons so far?

 

[AcaMetis]

(Hoping I'm doing this correctly)

Still (one of) my favorite AI survivor moment(s)

 

[Genghis the Barbarian]

Did you guys know the Apostolic Palace has more points than Hatshepsut?

 

[Thrasybulos]

Yes, and that's one decision I didn't agree with.
The kill credit 100% should have gone to Mao. Crediting the AP was just complete nonsense.

 

[Fippy]

Nooooo Hatty she's cursed.
Remember Monty's only win? In alternate historys on that map she won almost every replay.

 

[Thrasybulos]

Yep. The Hatty curse is real.

Although... I sometimes suspect some measure of foul play: Sullla is married to Lizzy, after all...
Coincidence?

 

[Genghis the Barbarian]

Anybody know where to find the Season 2 saves? @Thrasybulos @Keler @Eauxps I. Fourgott? Been looking everywhere, can't find them on Sullla's website

 

[Thrasybulos]

Got them from @Eauxps I. Fourgott last year.
Here you go.

Edit:
Actually, those are the wb files, which @Keler provided.
If you want the actual savegame files, those were indeed provided by Eauxps, in this post.

 

[Fippy]

aaammmmwwwhaaaaaaat?

 

[Fippy]

Oh and just to clarify..i reacted like that often enuf in those games

 

[Fippy]

Shaka aaahgnaaa

 

[Thrasybulos]

Yeah, those early, let's say... dubious city placements tend to be an endless source of amusement.

That said, this here would be a good illustration of one mild cricism we could level at Sullla: he correctly identified that Shaka was screwed hard by the map... and yet he went ahead with that map selection anyway!
(And if you have a look at my results for that map, boy, was that unfair indeed for Shaka! )

Now, having experimented with map selection as well on my end, I know firsthand that simply getting a map which looks fair (forget about actually being fair) is an exercise in frustration... and Season 5's climate selection certainly didn't help in that regard either.

 

[Genghis the Barbarian]

BTW, in the Discord we have been having a discussion about future seeding for future tournaments. The general consensus (including by Sullla himself) is that there should be some higher weight given to more recent seasons, particularly the post-AP and Deity starting tech removal ones (i.e. S5 and on). Some (myself included) think we should only score from S5 and on for future seeding (fun fact this would make HC a pool 2 leader), others think we should have S1-4 be half-weighted while S5-8 is given full weight. A select few (like myself) even think that something should be done to reward good performance in the most recent tournament - my idea is to make the top 2 in the previous season automatically pool 1 in the next. Thoughts?

 

[Thrasybulos]

How about using my results instead?
And if you want to keep it semi-self-contained (understandable), how about using the AH results instead?

In all honesty, AI Survivor sample set is too small and too random (outlier results agalore, especially in the last two seasons) for seeding to be meaningful.
So (apart from using results from a larger sample), the options I would suggest are:

• Drop seeding altogether: the idea was to prevent "groups of death" or "groups of weaklings", but current AI Survivor rankings don't allow for that. If it doesn't work, just drop it.
• Simple previous-tournament-only-results seeding: winners of the opening round games get seeded for the next tournament (8 seeds only).
• Don't use PWR for seeding purposes, base it on a score measuring tournament results only: something simple like 1 pt for reaching the playoffs / 3 pts for reaching the Championship / 7 pts for winning the championship ?
• Popularity contest : have people vote for the seeds before the tournament.

 

[Fippy]

S5+ only for seeding sounds good to me.

 

[Thrasybulos]

Some (myself included) think we should only score from S5 and on for future seeding (fun fact this would make HC a pool 2 leader)

S5+ only for seeding sounds good to me.

 

[Eauxps I. Fourgott]

Some time after Game 5 last year, I discovered this gem from nine years prior:

 

[Fippy]

one tile off the coast - bit weird decision
Here's what i think..best choice ever for Survivor AIs!
No almost useless ship builds.