"Beta" Massive WW2 scenario

[Meateater]

That's what I was missing, all I ever tried to do was inport it with the Conquest editor from PTW folders and that wouldn't work. Thats great news for a lot of people if they didn't know.

Thanks again trancer and glad you like the scenario.

I have taken a little break from updating the scenario, and you can thank Conquest for that. Its loads of fun and I am enjoiying ever second of it, well not every second the Mayans keep sneek attacking me with Javelin Throwers in the regular games. And of course the Conquests are great and I only have 3 more to play, But I still need to try other civs with each Conquest.

 

[Sinatra]

trancer,

thats sweet that you figured that out, and gave everyone the heads up.

however, i do think you should stick to meateaters file naming conventions, (jmho).

please let us know as soon as u got Berlin fixed and posted up!

Meateater, now that u know how to import your scenario into conquests, i assume all further updates will be done in conquests, and posted by you alone, right? i am curious to see how you implement conquests new features, (but no pressure to hurry up and do it, as i haven't even gotten conquests yet! altho this weekend looks likely)

thanks again, -mdw

 

[Meateater]

I agree trancer you should post this information about how to inport PTW stuff in the Conquest forums too. Just to give everyone the know how.

I have only looked at the Conquest version of this scenario that trancer posted in the editor. So I couldn't tell you if it is playable or not. I did notice a few things that had changed during the inport, like sugar is on the map as a resource, and the units cost have been adjusted and is now the total cost, no more of the X factor ( 30 shields would be 300 ) now 30 shield is 30 shields.

Sinatra
The primary focus will be on the Conquest version of the scenario but I also plan on releasing a PTW version too. Yes Conquest offers many new features and I am still playing the game and finding new things each turn it seems.

I will post an updated Conquest version of my scenario by mid next week with everything looked over and maybe add some new features too if there is time.


Edit:

I was able to get it done early so 4.1C is up for download. The scenario file still goes in your PTW scenario folder, even though it looks like a Conquest file. That what messed me up and got some different resources on the map.

I set up some alliances and other things for now.

 

[trancer]

The whole purpose of me putting it on this forum was so that you could see that the PTW files could be converted to Conquests. And I had no intention of actually releasing anything but now that I've got the scenario part licked I think I might.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

Do you intend to make the "cruiser-reform"
discussed in Post 158?

An advise: focus on the Conquests-version and cancel
more PTW-versions.

I have done so with ACW since: Conquests is superior
to PTW in every aspect and 2 versions will split work.

My guess is that PTW-versions will disappear rather fast.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Trancer you sound offended by a previous post. I don't know if he knew what you knew that he didn't know what you knew. Try and make scence of that sentence and you will forget what you were offended by hehe. Once again I thank you for helping me inport this scenario to Conquest.

Rocoteh I plan on doing so with the cruisers, and started to look at the WW2 Conquest units last night. I think I counted less than ten units that I want to add. Most of the other are from PTW in that scenario and I already have them.

Most of the PTW updates will be little things and come from the Conquest updates that can be applied to PTW version. Yes the PTW version of this scenario will be a side show, but will get updated in time. I agree PTW version may not be needed now

 

[trancer]

No offense was takin by me, I was just stating that I was trying to figure out if it was that easy to convert the file. But what I meant about the creating my own scenario was, That since I found out how simple it seems to be I might as well give it a go.

And don't mind my useless rambling, Sometimes I go on and on garbling my sentences after I'm done updating some of my websites.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

Here are the OOB September 1939 for Japan:s CA:s and
CL:s:

CA: Tone, Chikuma
Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya, Kumano,
Takao, Atago, Maya, Chokai,
Myoko,Nachi, Haguro, Ashigara
Furutaka, Kako, Aoba, Kinugasa.

CL:s

Tenryu, Tatsuta,
Kuma, Tama, Kitakami, Oi, Kiso,
Nagara, Isuzu, Yura, Natori,Kinu, Abukama,
Naka,Sendai, Jintsu,
Yubari.

I have not looked at the Pacific Scenario in Conquests yet,
but I intend to do so soon.

With regard to the Pacific War I have many very good
sources and can deliver more stats if you want, should
the stats in Conquests not be accurate enough.

Stats on gunnery, armor, AA and so on.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

I just took a look at OOB:s the Pacific Scenario.

They have scaled down Japan:s 10 Battleships available
December 1941 to 4 Battleships. Yamato become available
January 1942. This gives a loss of flavour.

I think you have a better OOB here.
OK, that was an first impression.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

OOB:s in Pacific Scenario compared to your WW2 scenario:

You have every capital ship (BB and BC) represented.
A very good solution!!!

If we look at the Pacific scenario, we find that Japan:s 10
Battleships have become 4, thus each unit represent 2,5
Battleships.

On Pearl Harbor day U.S. had 9 Battleships in the Pacific.
(If you want to see the location for all U.S. Battleships,
Pearl Harbor day see World War 2 Worldwide, scenario-creator,
Yurt. Look at page 5 Post 89.)

Thus each unit represent 1,5 U.S. Battleship.

Then United Kingdom: Battleship Prince of Wales and
Battlecruiser Repulse are represented by individual units!!!

If you choose the Japan-formula they represent 5 BB:s and BC:s!

Again: I think you have the right solution.


Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Once again Rocoteh you come through with some excilent information.

I have not been working on the scenario much, just been playing Conquest and getting a good feel for it with the new features, and coming up with some ideas for this scenario. Even though I have not been updating the scenario, my note book got a few more pages added to it 30+ pages allready.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

I repeat what I have said earlier:

Your scenario will be next years winner.

Best Regards


Rocoteh

 

[Adler17]

Germany´s cruiser in ww2:

Panzerschiffe (a kind of battle cruiser; later reclassified as CA):
Lützow (until 1940: Deutschland)
Admiral Scheer
Admiral Graf Spee (sunk 1939)

CA:
Admiral Hipper
Blücher (sunk 1940)
Prinz Eugen

CL:
Emden
Karlsruhe (sunk 1940)
Königsberg (sunk 1940)
Köln
Nürnberg
Leipzig

There were some other vessels, which could be considered as CLAA but were mainly used as aflaoting Flak batteries.

Adler

 

[Meateater]

-------------------------------------------Foot units --------------------------------------


Heavy MG's----

Regular Heavy MG
Heavy MG 34-German
Heavy MG 42-German
Vickers Heavy MG-British
M1917A1 Heavy MG-American
M1919A2 Heavy MG-American
Browning 50. cal. MG-American
Type 92 Heavy MG-Japanese
Type 99 Heavy MG-Japanese


Infantry----

Regular Infantry
U.S. Infantry
British Infantry
French Infantry
Soviet Infantry
German Infantry
SS infantry
Japanese Infantry
Italian Infantry


Marines----

Regular Marine
U.S. Marine
British Commando
Japanese Marine SNLF (speacial Navle landing force)


Para troopers----

Regular Para trooper
U.S. Para trooper
British Para trooper
German Para trooper


Flamethrowers----

Regular Flame thrower
U.S. Flame thrower - M1A1
German Flame thrower


Anti-tank----

Regular Anti-tank
Bazooka M1-American
Bazooka M1A1-American
Bazooka M9-American
Pait-British
Faustpatrone-German
Panzefaust 30-German
Panzerschreck 54-German


Mis.----

Combat engineers
Military Police
Mortor unit
Japanese knee mortor
German 88


--------------------------------------------Tanks ------------------------------------------


Regular tank

American---

M2A2 Combat car
M3A1 Stuart 3
M5A1 Stuart 6
M.24 Chaffee
M3 Lee/Grant
M4A1 Sherman 2
M4A3 Sherman 4
M.26 Pershing
M-10 Wolverine


Soviet---

T-60
T-70
T-28
T-34/76
T-34/85
IS-1
IS-2
KV-1


British---

Matilda 2
Valentine
Cruiser MK4
Cruiser MK6
Cromwell
Comet
Churchill MK7
Cruisre MK1


German---

Panzer 1
Panzer 2
Panzer 3
Panzer 4
Panther 5
Tiger 1
Tiger 2


Italian---

M.11/39
M.13/40
M.14/41
P.40


Japaneses---

Type 97 Chi-Ha
Type 97 Chi-Ha Shinhoto
Type 95 Ha-Go
Type 3 Chi-Nu


French---

Renault R.35
Somua S.35
Hotchkiss H.39


Mis.---

Self propeled guns
Rocket launchers
Rail gun
Anti-aircraft guns


--------------------------------------------Aircraft ---------------------------------------


Regular fighter
Regular Bomber


Italian---

Piaggo P108 (BH)
Rggiane RE 2000 (F)
Breda Ba 65 (DB)
Fiat BR 20 (B)
Fiat G 50 Freccia (F)


French---

Bloch MB 152 (F)
Moraine-Saulnier MS 406 (F)
Dewoitine D-520 (F)
Bloch MB 210 (B)
Leo 451 (B)


German---

Junkers Ju 188 (B)
Me 410 (F)
Me 109 (F)
FW 190 (F)
Ju 87 (DB)
Me 262 (F)
Me 110 (FB)
177 Greif (HB)
Dornier 217 (B)
Ju 88 (DB-B)
Heinkel 111 (B)


Japanese---

Type 1 oscar (F)
A6m Zero (F)
Ki-21 sally (B)
G4M betty (B)
D3D Val (DB)
B7A grace (DB)
N1K George (F)
Ki-67 peggy (B)
D4Y judy (DB)
Ki-27 nate (F)
J2M jack (F)


American---

P-47 Thunderbolt (F-GA)
F4U Corsair (F)
P-51 Mustang (F)
P-40 (F)
P-38 lightning (F-GA)
B-17 Flying fortress (B)
B-24 Liberator (HB)
B-29 Super fortress (HB)
F4F Wildcat (F)
F6F Hellcat (F)
P-39 Airacobra (F)
SB2C Helldiver (DB)
A24 Banshee (DB)
SBD Dauntless (DB)
F2A Buffalo (F)
Grumman Avenger (DB-F)
B-25 Mitchell (B)
Douglas Invader (B)


Soviet---

Yakovlev Yak-9 (F)
Shturmovik (GA)
Yakovlev Yak-1 (F)
Tupolev Tu-2 Bat (B)
RuIlyushin I1-4 bob (B)
Ru Petlyakov Pe-2 (GA)
Ru Polikarpov I-16 (F)
Ru Petlyakov Pe-8 (HB)
Ru Lavochkin LaGG-3 (F)


British---

Supermarine Spitfire (F)
Hawker Hurricane (F)
Handley Page Halifax (HB)
Fairey FireFly (F)
De Havilland Mosquito (B)
Avro Lancaster (HB)
Hawker Typhoon (F-GA)
Armstrong Whitworth (HB)
Blackburn Skua (DB)
Supermarine SeaFire MK3 (F)
Bristol Type 156 Beaufighter (F-B)
Blenheim (B)


Mis.---

V1 Buzz Bomb
V2 Rocket
Para glider plane
Para trooper plane
A-Bomb
A-Bomb transport plane


------------------------------------------Sea Vessels---------------------------------------


Battleship C1
Battleship C2
Battlecruiser C1
Battlecruiser C2
Carrier C1
Carrier C2
Carrier C3
Destroyer C1
Destroyer C2
Sub Hunter
Submarine
German U-Boat
Transport



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Here is a list of units that are in this scenario or will be, with more units coming. Once again thanks to everyone that has posted and given me information to help me with this scenario.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

The list looks very good.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Al Zan]

Meateater- did you make these units?

 

[Rocoteh]

Pacific War: OOB:s in the Pacific and war production:

U.S. OOB December 7 1941 (Pacific only):

CV/CVL/CVE x4
BB x9
CA/CL x24
DD x80
SS x73

Produced December 7 1941 - End of the War

CV/CVL/CVE x141 (a majority of CVE)
BB/BC x10
CA/CL x48
DD x349
SS x203

Japan OOB December 7 1941:

CV/CVL/CVE x12
BB x10
CA/CL x38
DD x104
SS x73

Produced December 7 1941- End of the War

CV/CVL/CVE x12
BB x2
CA/CL x5
DD x63
SS X167


Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Thanks Rocoteh great information, as you know it may be possible now to get that kind of production with the unit creating buildings. I just have to find out how many real units would be equal to an in game unit. I may go 2 to 1 ratio not sure yet though.

Al Zan all of those units have been added to the scenario but NO art has been added yet. I just posted a new thread today in the creation forums. I know there are a lot of the units on the list that are already made, but we need some more.

 

[Rocoteh]

Meateater,

I saw your new thread in the creation forums.
If you read my last post in the ACW-thread, you
can see why I think you probably will get a low
response.

Most unit-creators seems to be uninterested in
scenarios unless they know a scenario-creator.
Then you have what I call "The old establishment"
here at CFC: a bunch of 1 500+ posters who only
communicate with each other.

Best Regards

Rocoteh

 

[Meateater]

Yeah but if you don't ask that beautiful women if she has a boyfriend you may never know. and At least now I can check off the list what girls have boyfriends and what one don't. hehe kinda goofy.

No new updates on the scenario, besides my Conquest game I just captured the art of war from the Iroquois and moved their capital for the second time in two wars. They are leading everone in the game by score but 3/4 of the world is at war with them.