'Bloop' or 'Ker-plunk'

[Lexicus]

I don't know about that. His position isn't that it isn't happening, it's that humans do emit CO2 and this does cause some global warming, but that solar cycles are somehow much more influential than we know them to be, and that an ice age would normally be imminent but our emissions are making us safer from that. Then, when solar cycle X goes into a quiet phase, the temperature will drop and we'll be glad for our CO2. It's a variation on "global warming is a good thing".

My post wasn't meant to be more than semi-serious.

 

[Bootstoots]

Close, but I think CO2 won't save us, we're screwed. It will get cold. I think that cold will be evidenced before the end of next spring. If it doesn't, then I'm wrong.

Okay, fair enough.

Wow. I was looking into this and discovered something really interesting...and the answer to the poll question is actually BOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!

Apparently if the Earth fell into Jupiter, intact or not, it would not float and would chunk all the way down and join the existing core material. Adding an Earth mass to the dense core material would hypothetically increase the gravity field sufficiently to start a contraction in size, increasing overall density, and triggering the long delayed ignition into a star.

I agree we'd fuse with the core, but it definitely wouldn't turn into a star. We've observed many exoplanets several times Jupiter's mass that are not fusing anything. The mass threshold for something to become a brown dwarf (deuterium fusion, but not proton-proton fusion) is ~13 times Jupiter's mass, and for the lowest-mass red dwarf it's 75-80, if Wiki is right.

My post wasn't meant to be more than semi-serious.

I know, but there was still enough seriousness to it that I felt like responding seriously. One of my goals was to make sure I had his position right, and it turned out I was slightly wrong. I try to keep a little mental database of the nuances of people's positions on various issues, even if I totally disagree with them.

 

[Lexicus]

I know, but there was still enough seriousness to it that I felt like responding seriously. One of my goals was to make sure I had his position right, and it turned out I was slightly wrong. I try to keep a little mental database of the nuances of people's positions on various issues, even if I totally disagree with them.

Yeah, I try to do the same - I try to give people a fair hearing, that is - but I guess I'm more of a big-picture guy in some ways. A lot of the time, it seems like, 'nuance' just refers to whatever ad-hoc BS people come up with to rationalize their beliefs in the face of objections.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Okay, sub-brown dwarfs are a thing. Who knew?

Add more rock to Jupiter and it gets too much gravity to maintain the gas cloud size. Apparently ignition is out of the question though, just a warm puddle of methane.

 

[CavLancer]

Nobody light a match on the way in.

 

[Gori the Grey]

We're goin' out with a bang, baby!

 

[Lord of Elves]

That great and final

BLOOP

 

[Bootstoots]

Okay, sub-brown dwarfs are a thing. Who knew?

Add more rock to Jupiter and it gets too much gravity to maintain the gas cloud size. Apparently ignition is out of the question though, just a warm puddle of methane.

Yeah, it turns out sub-brown dwarfs really are a thing. They're gas giants that formed independently of any planetary system, which is their only difference with rogue planets of the same size. There's a little naming argument about whether they should count as planets or a type of brown dwarf, but there's actually a good dividing line between planets and brown dwarfs at the deuterium fusion point, so for now they're called sub-brown dwarfs. Here is the closest known one, only 7 ly away. It's not even warm enough to melt ice on its 'surface'. I'd guess there are probably even more little objects smaller and colder than it floating around in free space too.

 

[CavLancer]

Is it a brown dwarf that's out there as our possible dual sun system?

 

[Zkribbler]

You're all wrong! Sound isn't sound unless there are ears to hear it. Elsewise, it is merely vibration.


Even assuming humanity (and all its attendant beasties) could survive an Earth orbit to Jupiter orbit transit, as Earth approached Jupiter, it would receive a lethal dose of radiation, and we'd all be killed. Meaning no ears. Meaning no sound.
BTW: I do like Tim's hypothesis that we'd trigger Jupiter into becoming a star. This proves we're good for something

 

[warpus]

The same sound a wet sponge makes when you throw it against your fridge

 

[CavLancer]

The same sound a wet sponge makes when you throw it against your fridge

"Wha...wha? Nooooooooo *splat*"?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The same sound a wet sponge makes when you throw it against your fridge

I am somewhat taken aback that you say this as if everyone would be familiar with the sound made by taking this peculiar action.

 

[CavLancer]

Don't pay any attention to such detractors warpus, no avatar even. :forsooth:

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Don't pay any attention to such detractors warpus, no avatar even. :forsooth:

My question mark is like no other. Now with added sooth!

 

[Hygro]

Cav I've been voting in ur polls :]

 

[CavLancer]

Me too amigo.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

Carry On My Wayward Son is the most terrifying sound I can name. I imagine it will sound something like that.

This forum needs a thread for music that makes one's ears bleed. Personally I've got many contenders, but right now it's definitely Adele. Koreans are obsessed with "Hello" (the same pop songs play twenty times, every evening, in every club where I live). Good thing that they don't have any cocaine in this country, otherwise I'd go full Patrick Bateman.

 

[warpus]

I am somewhat taken aback that you say this as if everyone would be familiar with the sound made by taking this peculiar action.

Maybe I'm trying to get everyone to throw a wet sponge at their fridge to see what it would sound like.

 

[Lexicus]

Add more rock to Jupiter and it gets too much gravity to maintain the gas cloud size. Apparently ignition is out of the question though, just a warm puddle of methane.

Yeah, I mean IIRC Jupiter would need many times its current mass to kick off stellar ignition. And the only convenient place to find that much mass would be the Sun. Earth alone wouldn't come close.