BoG 02 - Blizkrieg

I have played a couple of turns, and I would like some advice.

We have soon researched Theory of Evolution. SHould we save Suffrage prebuild in Berlin for Theory, or keep it for Suffrage ?
I think we have a shot at Suffrage. I have not investigated the other cities building it though, so I do not know how long they have been at it.

Also, seems like our MPP with France will keep us at war for a while. NO problems with War weariness yet, as I have been somewhat carefull with losses.

Also, if/when we get Theory of Evolution wonder, should we go for the Hoover whammy, or get Replaceable parts with Atomic Theory ? Looking at our prebuilds, we mcould probably research Electronics by ourselves in a couple of turns with some financial backing from France.

Grimjack

I will see if I can pley the last couple of turns tomorrow morning after checking this board.
 
i think, that we should get suffrage, and then get ToE. then, we should get hoover and immediately after that go for replacable parts. this is just from my SP games
 
Get suffrage, begin a prebuild at once for ToE. Rush factory and coal plant with research money... cutting off research is to our benefit right now. Slower tech -> longer time to enemy infantry appear. I would use ToE to shoot ahead to Infantry, then go for Hoover afterwards to avoid a cascade.
 
Executive summary:
Brush war with russia went well, in spite of us losing two cavalry. German superior tactics made the day. Two new cities founded. Next leader decides if we want to get Sufrage or Theory of evolution on his first turn. If you decide to go with Suffrage, then make sure you time your next research so that it is finished before Theory of Evolution is finished.

Grimjack.

On to lengthy report....

Before picture:
BoG2_1240AD.jpg

1240AD(0) They have dared to question the German supremacy. Dirty Russian units killing noble german warriors, minding their
own business. They will be punished I say. EVer greedy french obviously saw their chance to reap some cheap benefits from
the Russians preoccupation with us, and also struck at the russian back lines.
For punishment it is decreed the border needs to be moved. We will issue a few settlers to move to our claims.
We have Babylonian knights supporting us on our eastern shores. The greedy Russians have also kept their secret
knowledge of The Corporation from our grasp. This is a knowledge deemed vital to our cause, as is medicine.
All our four Cavalry will have to make our point. ( They would of course have teh support of our three cannon :)
We will need to show great strength to mother Russia, or she will not part with her knowledge.
Looking over our cities, I see some things that make me raise my eyebrows. Leipzig churning Cavarly at an extremely evil 39 shields per turn. If we chop the forests and railroad, we can easily get the extra required shield. WIll run at a small food deficit for now. I also optimize several other cities for shields, as they are at size 12.

IBT: The proud Carthage Knights lose all three troops and is victorious with one knight. See french rifle pillage russian horses before getting full of arrows from a russian longbowman.

1250(1) Start to gather our very first force of offensive troops in Salzburg. Will try to get some 8 cavalry and 3 riflemen
together with our three cannon and see what we can do to Tblisi. If things turn out well here, Sverdlovks will feel our

strength. First engagement for Grimjacks council was a russian longbowman. OUr elite Cavalry eliminated them as target

practice. Hmm, I notice Universal Suffrage due in 12. Since we want to have ToE, I will see if I can crank up research
a bit so we make electricity faster.

IBT: Palassenberg starts a 14 turn prebuild for Hoovers. We also see the last of our stalwart Carthaginian allies kill

themselves on Tblisis walls.

1260(2) In a lightning move, our strike force gathered outside Tblisi, and weakened as that city was from the Carthaginian

strikes, it fell to our Cavalry. Not wanting anything to do with dirty russians, the city is promptly ordered to be razed.
Munich is instead founded on the exact spot where Tblisi was. Hah, take that Catherine. Catherine is hardboiled though, or

else it is teh roman advisors leaning over her shoulder, preventing her from writing a favorable peace deal with us.
( A peace deal we couldn't in good conscience sign, since we would be forced to break it due to our mpp with France. )
Sigh, discover Köln has produced a cavalry without having a barracks.

IBT: Persia joins the dogpile against Russia. She is not very hot now.

1265(3) MOve our joint forces to the forest outside Sverdlovsk. Soon Catherine will feel the wrath of our forces.

IBT: The quiet before the storm... See a lone longbow trying to change bases in Germany.

1270(4) With sorrow in our hearts, we note the first losses in the skirmish with the dirty russian. One of our Cavalry do

not manage to retreat in time, and the russian riflemen have a field day shooting them. In response to this dirty deed,

Sverdlovsk is now razed. This is the amount of grounds I had aimed at gaining. Now to keep it until we can go to peace.
We will need to declare peace soon, as war wearines would have to strike real soon now.
Catherine is still being stubborn. Says it is only a flesh wound. I will not go to peace with her without substantial gains.

NOticed France now has 3700 gold in treasury. Wonder what she is doing.

IBT: Quiet. Quiet.

1275(5) Move some more forces in position against Russia, since she does not want any peace. Will see how much I can bomb

her last border city before she will yield something substantial in peace settlements. Have to set up lux taxes to 10 %

again. Hammurabi wants our left arm together with our treasury for some spices. This is unacceptable. We get Espionage for

Communism with the Aztecs. Konigsberg starts CIA as a prebuild for Hoovers

IBT: Electricity comes in. Lets hope we have a monopoly, so we can do some fat trades and then research at max.
Otherwise very quiet on the front. Babylon and Russia signs peace. Never seen them exchange blows. Chickens. They will
soon feel the wrath of the steal beast.

1280(6) Joan offers corporation, Medicine and 2000 gold for Electricity. Better by far than any other civ could offer.
I take it. See that she is now up refining on us. Persia also has refining, but want electricity and 1000 gold for it.
I do trade ELectricity to baylon though, for some SPices and some 340ish lose gold. I set research in Scientific method at

max, giving us teh tech in 5. In Berlin we have Universal Suffrage in 5. Hmm, Universal Suffrage would be a nice wonder to

have. I kind of like the income in Democracy. Very well, I will let Erik decice. We also have two prebuilds, one palace and

one CIA both due in 9 turns. Either of them could be Hoover.

IBT: Since we obviously are not a threat to Russia, they are sending out ships with forces to the seas. ( Or they are

fleeing. )

1285(7) Those Cannon surely are much slower than Cavalry. They do not get faster by me mistaking some jungle for forest.

IBT: Russian ships continue heading northwards.

1290(8) Cannons are fired across the mighty river protecting Kiev. They are of course singularly ineffective.

IBT: The russian fleet must have seen something awful out to the seas, as they now head on home instead.

1295(9) Artillery bombardment shows us that there are at least three riflemen in Kiev. For some reason they moved one
rifleman out of that city. Once again the evil russian riflemen manage to isolate and kill one of our Cavalry. The response

is as usual by now. Burn the city to the ground, and haul away the former russian army as road builders ni teh german

empire. ( Lost one cav, redlined three and no promotions, nor leaders. ) Our victorious troops are now heading home.

IBT: France and Rome signs peace. France no longer wants an MPP with us, and I concur. I would want us to go to peace now,

so we may fully explore the tantalizing possibilities our friends in the universities are coming up with.

1300(10) Nuremberg is founded to celebrate our latest victories against the evil russians. I cannot wring any tech out of

Catherine, but I get 150 gold and 30 gpt for peace from her, Romans does not have anything to offer, so I go straight peace

with them.
We have Scientific Method in one, and also Suffrage in one. If we do decide to get Suffrage, that should kill the cascade,

since there are no other free wonders out there. This may let Palassenberg get Theory of Evolution or Hoovers as they have

Palace in 8. Konigsberg have CIA in four. They may switch to Theory instead. All of them are solid cities. I have not built

any coal plants, since I was aiming for Hovers.

After picture:
BoG2_1300AD.jpg

I have started to build some Riflemen instead of Cav, since we may want to fight next war in character. Next war may very

well be the last war also, since we would fairly fast be able to get to Motorized with the tech advantage we will have with Theory of Evolution.

Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/BoG2_1300_AD.zip
Grimjack.
 
Hmm, upload is not working, and I will have to leave for work now. I will try to post in an hour when I reach work.
Grimjack

Upload is working now. Just saw some exposed workers next to a russian rifleman. PLease wake up some riflemen in some of our border cities and cover their scrawny behinds.

Grimjack
 
good turn! i would go for suffrage, then change cia to TOE, then change palace to hoover.
 
CIA is not so many shields. Palace would have to go ToE, as they are both 600 shield wonders. CIA is somewhat misleading, since it is 400 shields. ( I think. )

Grimjack
 
Got it!
*wishes Nuremberg was founded one square SW for the cow, wishes for another 10 cavalry, wishes to get all the ancient wonders on Deity, wishes for Motorized transport next turn.*
 
Preturn: Wow. Loads of stuff has happened. At the request of the earlier President Grimjack, I haul out a rifle to protect some workers. When checking which workers I can pull back (some cities have +7 and 6 food) I notice most of them are automated. I wake them.
IBT: Persia and rome sign peace. We lose wines, so I buy them again from Babylon for Incest, 10 gpt and 150 gold.
Turn 1: Sci Meth -> Sanitation. Boost science to 100% to get Sanitation in 4, change Palassberg to ToE, change Konigsberg to Palace perbuild.
We complete Universal Suffrage in Berlin. I pseudo-hurry a cav for 120 gold. Leipzig cav -> cav, ditto Brandenburg. I mine some cities. Now the two top food cities have +5 and are dropping.

I'm bad... I put the rest of the workers on Shift-A.

Turn 2: We lose our Ivory. I fling 250 gold at the aztecs to make them happy about it again. The french pester us for an alliance against Russia. No chance. Berlin cav -> IntAgen. Frankfurt 'clad > colosseum. Nurnberg universit > cathedral.
The cascade is firmly broken, so I sell SciMeth around.
To Persia for Refining, Silks, gpt and 60 gold. Then to babylon for Furs, 19 gpt and 230 gold.
Then to France for 1400 gold and a worker. Sanitation and ToE due in 3 turns.
Turn 3: 8 cities celebrate WLTCD. Slazburg rifle > market. Brandenburg cav > cath. I hurry the library in Dusseldorf by disbanding reg cavs.
Turn 4: Dusseldorf Lib > temple. Leipzig olosseum > wealth. Hannover granary > cathedral.
Turn 5 1325 AD: We discover Sanitation. I start Atomic Theory. ToE completes, giving us a Golden Age, as well as granting us Atomic Theory and Electronics! Konigsberg changed to Hoover Dam, due in 6. Several cities changed to Hospitals. I hurry some of them.
At this point I stopped keeping a detail log. I built loads of hospitals, factories and police stations. We are techinically out of city names.
Rome and France signed an alliance against Russia somewhere. I sold Atomic Theory to Persia for 142 gpt and 213 gold, and to Babylon for 130 gpt and 76 gold.
We discovered Rep Parts on my last turn. Spend some time building up before the war. We don't want to be fighting it with cavalry, really.
Four cavalry are in a galleon in New Berlin, I was planning to send them to take out the enemy rubber. their rubber is near Lyons... which just happens to contain Sun Tzu's. If you drop 6 cav, 2 inf there, I expect no resistance.
Babylon Rome and Aztecs are still in Democracy. Persia is a Monarchy, and that is bad for such a big empire. The others... are communist.
I upgraded just about everything.
My main question is, will this game get back to me?:confused: :rolleyes: :crazyeye: ?

Savegame.
 
Good turn Erik. SOryr about leaving workers on a goto for you. Must have missed that. I am fairly certain I didn't leave anything on automated though.

In Leipzig, since it is out of stuff to build, would it not be better to build some cheap units, that we later could use to rush stuff in our frontier cities ?

Very well, someone gets to play with mthe new toys, as german supremacy will show. INfantry and artillery :)

Grimjack

BoG or Ville next ?
 
got it, will play tonight. looks like ill have all the fun! should i go ahead and take out russia with infantry and then maybe frqance also?
 
Maybe, at least Russians, then France after we have enough Panzers and then to Aztecs:mwaha:
 
how is our navy looking? im going to start building transports soon, because we will need them for the aztecs. Perfest time for GA imho. what wonder did we buil that had military flag? was it suffrage?
 
Suffrage is strangely enough Mil/Exp, and gives auto GA for Zulu's. LOL.
 
We do not have any navy :)
You would have to build it from scratch while pounding with the artillery and infantry on France and Russia.

Grimjack
 
cant play till tomorrow. had a bbal game (i got the save ;) )


EDIT - I'm a picher btw
 
Well we do have 1 clad + 1 galleon.
 
I don’t have much time so this will be brief. Sorry :(

Preturn - Analyze the situation

Turn 1 - hoover dam done. Start on police stations (most due in 3) move all units to dusseldorf

Turn 2 -building up.

Turn 3 - change konisberg to battlefield medicine

Turn 4 - Hammy wants electronics. HA! He was only bluffing. War next turn !

Turn 5 - never mind, we have 5 turns left on peace treaty :(

Turn 6 - I decide to get an mpp with hammy, that way he will get out of democracy. I will leave it up to the next ruler to sign the trade embargos.

Turn 7 - keep on building

Turn 8 -keep on building.

Turn 9 - france and russia sign a peace treaty

Turn 10 - left all moves up to ville. Peace treaty expired. Most of the forces in dusseldorf. The navy is outside of bremen. I concentrated on buildin artillery, infantry, transports, and the intelligence agency this turn. Since russia is furios, try to get her to declare war using spies.
 
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