"Brave New World"- alternate WWII scn.

Mastreditr111

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Picture a world in which Stalin’s purges of Red Army officers had continued into the 40’s, and where the Japanese Empire had not attacked America at Pearl Harbor, not drawing us into the war.
Stalin continued his purges in the face of Hitler’s invasion, and killed officers crucial to his counterattack. He lost half his army in the ensuing bloodbath, and the Germans drove straight to the Urals, where they made peace with a puppet government they founded in Gorky. Thus freed up in the East, the Germans turned and crushed Britain at a stroke in the Second Battle of Britain. Goering concentrated on the British airfields and radar stations, instead of the cities, and Britain fell. Again, the Germans set up a puppet state, this time in Scotland and Ireland, and occupied the southern half of the country. Meanwhile, without American support, the British and Free French forces in North Africa had collapsed. Germany had achieved hegemony over Europe, North Africa, and Russia, and was free to concentrate on the creation of Hitler’s “Festung Europa.”
Japan never attacked America at Pearl Harbor in 1941, and they had since run unopposed through Asia and the Pacific. They annexed all of Indonesia and Indochina quickly, while the governments of the Netherlands and France were being crushed by Germany. They conquered China, setting up a puppet state in what remained in the west. Then, in a move to gain control over the rest of SE Asia, they invaded British India. The Imperial Japanese Army blitzed through Burma, but was stopped along a fortress line the English had spent years secretly constructing. Now, in 1946, the only hope of the free world lies with America, whom the Allies have convinced to go to war against Germany and Japan. The U.S. is more prepared than it would have been in 1941, but it now stands virtually alone. It joined with Canada to form the United Provinces of North America when it became apparent that the Axis powers were winning on the other side of the world, so it has more industrial might than a Germany in control of devastated Russia or a Japan controlling rural China. The Free British Commonwealth is praying that America can get troops to India and Australia before they fall, the French that recently arrived American troops in Liberia can stop a German assault and drive them from Africa. Perhaps most important is the question of whether the countries of Southern Europe will side with the Axis or the Allies.

Credit goes to GSG9, whose “NaziWorld 1945” scenario this one’s map is based on

Easy Play: U.P.N.A., Third Reich, Japanese Empire
Harder: Independent British Commonwealth, Gorky Russia
Challenging: Free France, Italy, Brazil
Impossible: China, Persian States, Turkey/Arabia, Spain/Portugal, South America, , Argentina/Chile, North Britain

Note: I haven’t play tested this higher than chieftain level, or with any countries other than Germany, Japan, the U.P.N.A., or Britain. I would appreciate it if someone who is actually good at this game would play it at a higher level, say monarch or so, and give me an idea of how accurate my ratings are (I can’t actually play this game worth a D*mn)

Please comment, but don't bother with geography, I didn't design the map, and plan to find a new world map, probably larger, to make an improved version.

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Wow, what an alternate history. Why, though, didn't we act when Russia fell, and come in with Britain? I find it hard to concieve an Amierca that would watch all her allies fall and not act. Other than that, this scenario looks oh so fun, I was acutally in a similar position as the US on the Axis&Allies board game.
 
I can see how you would think that, but we're seeing everything in 20-20 hindsight. Though the leadership of America may have seen that they should support Britain actively, and though we can see that, without Pearl Harbor, there would have been nothing to smash the isolationist outlook of the public and give the government a pretext for war. Even so, you may be right, but who knows.
 
This sounds like a great scenario but I am having trouble trying to play it I put the biq file in conquests but it does not appear can you help?
 
I've played it shortly.
The first thing I noticed is that there are British troops in London!! London is supposed to be under control of the Third Reich right?
So I've to attack London to have control of it.
Is this correct?

Redman
 
This scenario is great! It seems like just the thing that would of happened if Japan hadn't attacked Pearl Harbor (Maybe not so bad though).
 
tag427 said:
This sounds like a great scenario but I am having trouble trying to play it I put the biq file in conquests but it does not appear can you help?
Welcome to CFC. [party]

You should put the BIQ file under the 'conquest\scenarios\' folder and not under the 'conquest\conquest\' folder.

In the main menu of CivIII conquests you shouldn't choose 'Conquest' but 'Civ contents' instead...

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Thanks for your helpful tip -- now however the game seems to hang during the configuring scenario phase--I have the Civ III complete version I wonder if that is the issue. I am able to find the file choose leader and level but as the maps loads "configuring scenario appears the blue bar goes to 75%then nothing. Any ideas would be appreciated --having the same problem with The Turtledove Great war scenario as well
 
@Tag427, do you have the 1.22 patch installed?
(it should say which version you have on the bottom left area of the main screen)
 
Redman said:
The first thing I noticed is that there are British troops in London!!
I had the same problem. I don't think it's on purpose as it could lead to the game crashing.

Shouldn't Italy be an Ally of Third Reich rather than in another Alliance?
 
Luthor_Saxburg said:
@Tag427, do you have the 1.22 patch installed?
(it should say which version you have on the bottom left area of the main screen)
Yes I have the CIVIII Complete 1.22--I am wondering if I still have files in the wrong place?
 
tag427 said:
Yes I have the CIVIII Complete 1.22--I am wondering if I still have files in the wrong place?
The file should be in the correct place otherwise you wouldn't even find it.

The correct place would be the following folder:
\Civilization III\Conquests\Scenarios\Brave New World1.biq
 
I praise you!!!! ive downloaded a couple of other scenarios but whenever i play them i get a message saying somthin about the anime text not found and then it exits the game. ITS REALLY FRUSTRATING!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: but finally ive got somthin i can play, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!:D
 
Okay i havent logged on since about april 15th, so lets see:

1. Tag427 and Doom666, have u managed to get the scn working, or do u still need help?
2. Redman, the British troops remaining in the Reich are guerrillas, meant to represent resistance against the Germans. The same thing in France w/ the free french guerillas,and, in the colonies of Africa and Asia and the Japanese empire, there are barbarians to represent native resistance. The British should not, however, own the city, just have men in the countryside
3. Imagicnation, thank you

also, if anyone knows a good early cold war scn with unmodded tech, that the author would be willing to let me use/modify, im planning to make an upgrade. this one was thrown together rather hastily out of one i borrowed from GSG9, and the geography sucks
 
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