[BtS] DIPLOMACY: a mod for Diplogames!

[IgorS]

Some diplotext for a future addition to the mod: Kamehameha of Polynesia.

<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_FIRST_CONTACT_LEADER_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>Aloha, [CT_NAME]! Welcome to the [OUR_EMPIRE]! I am the local king, [OUR_NAME]!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_REFUSE_TO_TALK_LEADER_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>Go away before I hit you with an oar!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_NO_PEACE_LEADER_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>There will be no peace btween us! You broke the kapu and you must pay!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FR_LEADER_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>Great to see you! Lets go to the closest heiau and make some non-human sacrifices in honor of our friendship!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FUR_LEADER_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>Oh, look, this annoying foreigner is here again...</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_WEAKER_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>Give me this or I'll break your bones!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_EQUAL_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>I suggest you give [OUR_CIV_SHORT] a small tribute to keep [CT_CIV_SHORT] free from my kahunas' curses!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_STRONGER_KAMEHAMEHA_1</Tag>
<English>I think [OUR_CIV_SHORT] has every right to demand tribute from your worthless civilization, and you don't have any right to say "no" to [OUR_CIV_SHORT]'s demands!</English>
</TEXT>

 

[The Capo]

I'm wondering... what's Itzcoatl's personality like? I'm writing his diplotext and I'm thinking of making him diplomatic, understanding and, most importantly, totally sane, a counterpart to that nut Montezuma.

To put it in simple terms Itzcoatl was the guy who liberated the Aztecs from vassalage against the Tepanecs (who were their overloards). So in many ways he was the father of the Aztec Empire. That's my rudementary knowlege of thim at least, I don't know what his personality was like though.

 

[B0n3es]

Since I can unblock the new religions that come in the mod?

 

[The Capo]

You have to go into the Custom Game screen and select 'Choose Religion'

And to everyone else; sorry progress has been slow on the last module pack. I injured my hand and its effecting my abilities to sit and do modding work. On the positive side; the pack is actually nearly finished. I have to come up with a good unit set for the Philippenes, but I am having a very hard time figuring out what ancient and medieval Filipinos should look like. Actually I am having a hard time figuring out what any of them would look like. I need a little help in that area right now.

 

[The Capo]

I also think we should start brainstorming units, wonders, techs, buildings, features etch. for the future era. And speaking of which; does anyone know how I can change the flag to the flag/hologram used in Final Frontier for the future era?

 

[The Almighty dF]

You have to go into the Custom Game screen and select 'Choose Religion'

And to everyone else; sorry progress has been slow on the last module pack. I injured my hand and its effecting my abilities to sit and do modding work. On the positive side; the pack is actually nearly finished. I have to come up with a good unit set for the Philippenes, but I am having a very hard time figuring out what ancient and medieval Filipinos should look like. Actually I am having a hard time figuring out what any of them would look like. I need a little help in that area right now.

I'd give them maybe Mongolian ancient/medieval units? Maybe some combination of different asian ancient/medieval units? Not sure, honestly.

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

The Mongols are central Asian. Filipinos are Austronesian, probably related to Malays.

For the ancient Filipinos, probably similar to the Vietnamese or the Polynesian. And what about Asian conquistadors for the Medieval Era?

 

[The Almighty dF]

As far as future era goes:
Add all of the units and techs from Next War, except keeping the original name for the two wonders/projects (Apollo instead of mission to mars, UN instead of LoN)

As far as wonders/buildings/projects... I've only got one I know I'd like to see.
-SETI: Acts as a sort of Great Library, but with an additional boost to culture (due to the boost science fiction got from this.) Have this be available with Satellites, maybe. Or maybe a Hubble wonder that gives a similar boost.

Also, maybe a late game espionage booster relating to the Men In Black conspiracy theory? Like from X-Files, MIB, etc.
Maybe something related to replicator technology that gives a food boost.

Also, add in the worker improvements from the terraforming mod. Except for the tree-planting improvement (which I'd have unlock with whatever tech it is that gives Environmentalism), they should be dispersed through the future techs.

Although it'd be too complicated, it'd be nice to be able to somehow make a second space victory, something that occurs much later in the game than the Apollo Mission. Like maybe you have to make multiple trips into space, keep advancing your ships, etc. until you can finally colonize another planet.

Only ideas at the moment, that's just off the top of my head. I'll start brainstorming tonight.

 

[mamba]

As far as future era goes:
Add all of the units and techs from Next War, except keeping the original name for the two wonders/projects (Apollo instead of mission to mars, UN instead of LoN)

The name change is not the only thing for Mission to Mars, it was also moved up the tech ladder so a space victory would not come early. At the very least these should be added imo.

 

[The Almighty dF]

The name change is not the only thing for Mission to Mars, it was also moved up the tech ladder so a space victory would not come early. At the very least these should be added imo.

True.
So y'know what, scratch that. Let's keep the space race where it is in Next War.
I don't want to have to disable the best futuristic victory to be able to play in the future.
It'd be nice if we could still incorporate the apollo mission, though. Maybe have that be a national wonder each nation has to build -before- the actual space race project can start?
Or maybe have something instead involving the launching of a satellite.

 

[The Capo]

I'm definitely going to make the space victory much more difficult. I was also going to have like early future units (plasma rifles, special ops soldiers, better ships and planes etc.), future units (like cyborg hyrid units, clones, mechs, a more powerful nuclear missile if that's possible) and then advanced future units like bioengineered stuff.

Possible wonders; SETI is a great idea, I think CERN might have some merit as a wonder, possibly a space station type wonder (although its sort of covered with the space elevator in the sense that its almost surpassed by that in awesomeness) and of course Cure for Cancer as a shout out to the old games.

The terraforming mod is definitely going in, and planting trees will come with environmentalism. Everything else will come with future techs. I also want to add an improvement you can add to deserts. Like a windfarm (even though that'd be more appropriate for hills, I still think deserts need something too).

And another thing I think would be cool to add for the future era would be the flags/holograms from Final Frontier. So the flags would change from the modern era to the future era. If that is possible.

And besides my hand injury I also got dragged into (well, I actually started it) the new Alexander Project along with Bernie, Ekmek and hopefully The_Coyote. Bernie made an awesome helmet for him and this is what our progress looks like so far;

Keep in mind this is far from being finished, so if you have any suggestions or anything visit the thread and let us know. The Filipino units will most likely resemble a mix of Polynesian and Vietnamese type units. For their medieval I am not sure what direction to go in (whether I keep them native, or throw in Spanish influence).

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

Marcos is the leader of the Filipinos, right? What are his traits? Is his favorite civic Police State?

And another thing, how's your puppy doing? I have a black lab, too.

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

Here's some lines I made for Mindaugas of Lithuania.

<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_FIRST_CONTACT_LEADER_MINDAUGAS_1</Tag>
<English>Good day, [CT_NAME]! I am the great king [OUR_NAME] of the [OUR_EMPIRE]! Let there be peace between our great nations, at least if you want to hold on to yours a little bit longer...</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_REFUSE_TO_TALK_LEADER_MINDAUGAS_1 </Tag>
<English>Talk with you! I might as well watch paint dry! Go on, skedaddle.</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_NO_PEACE_LEADER_MINDAUGAS_1</Tag>
<English>Losing the war is not what I bargained for. You, [CT_NAME], are toast.</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FR_LEADER_MINDAUGAS_1 </Tag>
<English>Welcome back to my palace, [CT_NAME]. Let's talk about our plans to swallow the land of our enemies and leave their corpses to the dogs, shall we?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FUR_LEADER_MINDAUGAS_ 1</Tag>
<English>You again? Huh. I thought we engulfed your pathetic civilization eons ago.</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_WEAKER_MINDAUGAS_1</Tag>
<English>If you give me this, [CT_NAME], I won't convert back to paganism and pray to the gods to put a curse on you!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_EQUAL_MINDAUGAS_1</Tag>
<English>I recommend you give us this, [CT_NAME]. My other rivals would suggest otherwise, but I murdered them, so who cares?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_STRONGER_MINDAUGAS_1</Tag>
<English>Hand this over, [CT_NAME]. You wouldn't like our troops to trample you into dust.</English>
</TEXT>

 

[The Almighty dF]

I'm definitely going to make the space victory much more difficult. I was also going to have like early future units (plasma rifles, special ops soldiers, better ships and planes etc.), future units (like cyborg hyrid units, clones, mechs, a more powerful nuclear missile if that's possible) and then advanced future units like bioengineered stuff.

Possible wonders; SETI is a great idea, I think CERN might have some merit as a wonder, possibly a space station type wonder (although its sort of covered with the space elevator in the sense that its almost surpassed by that in awesomeness) and of course Cure for Cancer as a shout out to the old games.

The terraforming mod is definitely going in, and planting trees will come with environmentalism. Everything else will come with future techs. I also want to add an improvement you can add to deserts. Like a windfarm (even though that'd be more appropriate for hills, I still think deserts need something too).

And another thing I think would be cool to add for the future era would be the flags/holograms from Final Frontier. So the flags would change from the modern era to the future era. If that is possible.

And besides my hand injury I also got dragged into (well, I actually started it) the new Alexander Project along with Bernie, Ekmek and hopefully The_Coyote. Bernie made an awesome helmet for him and this is what our progress looks like so far;

Keep in mind this is far from being finished, so if you have any suggestions or anything visit the thread and let us know. The Filipino units will most likely resemble a mix of Polynesian and Vietnamese type units. For their medieval I am not sure what direction to go in (whether I keep them native, or throw in Spanish influence).

I'd give CERN Great Library like stats and SETI the bonus to space-related builds.

Also, just a few suggestions on Alexander: If possible, make his hair visible beneath the helm, reaching his shoulders. Most depictions of him have him showing off his long black hair.
He also needs a skintone close to what Darius has now (in fact, Darius and Alexander-now have like, swapped skintones.)
If you've ever seen The Ten Commandments (1950s one, where Charlton Heston fights Vincent Price for like 5 minutes. Take -that- They Live.), most depictions have him looking kinda like Joshua in that film. Long curly black hair and sideburns, very tan.

Edit: Though I should mention that his hair color is kinda debatable. Most depictions of him as a child or teen have him as blonde, but then when he's an adult he's suddenly very dark haired. I guess brown would be a good compromise.

 

[The Capo]

The face is actually going to be changed drastically. But its going to be based on sculptures of Alexander (which tend to be regarded as the best depiction, in fact the mosaic that is pretty popular and you seem to be referencing [where he has dark hair and sideburns] was actually made by Romans hundreds of years after he lived). We are using coins and sculptures comissioned by Ptolemy Soter, who fought with Alexander and knew him personally, as a basis. He will most likely have dark blond or light brown hair. His skin will be more tanned and his face is going to look almost completely different we're just using this one as a base because his hair is pretty close to what we want, and you actaully can see some parts of it under the helmet its just blonde right now and kind of blends in. We are probably going to make his hair more mane-like but the problem is that it has to fit under the helmet so we can't make it too big.

 

[The Almighty dF]

The face is actually going to be changed drastically. But its going to be based on sculptures of Alexander (which tend to be regarded as the best depiction, in fact the mosaic that is pretty popular and you seem to be referencing [where he has dark hair and sideburns] was actually made by Romans hundreds of years after he lived). We are using coins and sculptures comissioned by Ptolemy Soter, who fought with Alexander and knew him personally, as a basis. He will most likely have dark blond or light brown hair. His skin will be more tanned and his face is going to look almost completely different we're just using this one as a base because his hair is pretty close to what we want, and you actaully can see some parts of it under the helmet its just blonde right now and kind of blends in. We are probably going to make his hair more mane-like but the problem is that it has to fit under the helmet so we can't make it too big.

That works.

I still wonder why he keeps getting depicted as a blonde haired, blue eyed, pale skinned man with short hair these days. And a Bruce Campbell chin.
Then again, all things related to Greece are hilariously depicted these days. White robes, pale white skin, white hair, white buildings, white -everything-. Color wasn't invented till around the time of the Byzantines.

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

Are you sure Joseph Goebbels and the Nazis weren't in charge of those depictions?

 

[IgorS]

Yesterday I wrote some diplotext for a few leaders I use. I thought you can use some of these suggetions.

Spoiler :

Josip Broz Tito:

<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_FIRST_CONTACT_LEADER_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>It is so nice to establish diplomatic relations with a possible ally! I am [OUR_NAME]. Belive me, you will benefit from allying with us. If you cause us problems we will know how to deal with you!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_REFUSE_TO_TALK_LEADER_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>I refuse to talk to you until you change your attitude towards [OUR_CIV_SHORT]!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_NO_PEACE_LEADER_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>I am not afraid of you! My partizans will make sure your army will fail!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FR_LEADER_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>Welcome, friend [CT_NAME]! How can the [OUR_CIV_ADJ] people assist you today? And how can you assist the [OUR_CIV_SHORT] people?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FUR_LEADER_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>Oh, hello to you... Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them! If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to [CT_CIV_SHORT], and I won't have to send a second.</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_WEAKER_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>[OUR_CIV_SHORT] needs this to survive, so please help us!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_EQUAL_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>If you are a true friend of [OUR_CIV_SHORT] you will assist us with the following! Or are you one of those trying to weaken my country?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_STRONGER_TITO_1</Tag>
<English>If you want to remain as the head of your state I suggest you give [OUR_CIV_SHORT] the following. I don't think you should refuse!</English>
</TEXT>

Spoiler :

Mongkut:

<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_FIRST_CONTACT_LEADER_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>I am [OUR_NAME]! See what is around you? I have done much for this land and it's people! How may you assist us? And how may we assist you?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_REFUSE_TO_TALK_LEADER_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>I was a monk and I know that sometimes it is better not to speak at all, [CT_NAME]!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_NO_PEACE_LEADER_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>There will be no peace! I will teach YOU a lesson now!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FR_LEADER_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>Welcome once again to my court. Have you got anything new to tell me?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FUR_LEADER_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>Hello. You know, I wonder what will be the foolish thing you'll teach me today!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_WEAKER_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>I would like to know this particular secret, [CT_NAME]. Any chance you'll help me with it?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_EQUAL_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>I demand you teach me the following!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_STRONGER_MONGKUT_1</Tag>
<English>If you want [OUR_CIV_SHORT] to remain open to [CT_CIV_ADJ] trade you'll give me this!</English>
</TEXT>

Spoiler :

Maurits van Nassau (instead of Colonization text):

<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_FIRST_CONTACT_LEADER_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>Greetings [CT_NAME]! I am [OUR_NAME} of the hearty and intrepid Dutch! Among the finest Generals the world has ever known! Come sit and let us discuss pressing matters of state!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_REFUSE_TO_TALK_LEADER_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>Ga weg!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_NO_PEACE_LEADER_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>Peace, what did you smoke here already? I am [OUR_NAME] and I will defeat you!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FR_LEADER_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>Goedendag, [CT_NAME]! Welkom in [OUR_CIV_SHORT]! Would you like a tour of our windmills and dikes?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FUR_LEADER_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>I was looking for someone to practice my tactics on...</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_WEAKER_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>Donate to [OUR_CIV_SHORT], please! We promise not to attack you when we're big and strong!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_EQUAL_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>Any chance you trade with us? You give us this, we give you... our fresh air and good athmosphere!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_STRONGER_MAURITS_1</Tag>
<English>My army is looking for something to do. If you won't give me this I'll probably launch a surprise attack against [CT_CIV_SHORT]. Oh, now it's not a surprise anymore...</English>
</TEXT>

Spoiler :

Nimi/Nzinga a Nkuwu (or whoever you use for Congo):

<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_FIRST_CONTACT_LEADER_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>Welcome to [OUR_CIV_SHORT], [CT_NAME]! What brings you here?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_REFUSE_TO_TALK_LEADER_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>I refuse to listen to you! Begone!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_NO_PEACE_LEADER_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>Peace? I still need to expand!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FR_LEADER_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>Oh, welcome, [CT_NAME]! What can the [OUR_CIV_ADJ] people do for you?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FUR_LEADER_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>You are unwelcome in [OUR_CIV_SHORT], so make it quick!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_WEAKER_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>Give us this or we will build a strong army and then you won't win!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_EQUAL_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>Give us this! You don't want to take unnecessary risks, right?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_STRONGER_NIMI_1</Tag>
<English>I will only ask once, [CT_NAME]!</English>
</TEXT>

Spoiler :

Itzcoatl:

<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_FIRST_CONTACT_LEADER_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>Hello [CT_NAME], I am Itzcoatl, Conqueror of the Tepenecs and liberator of the mighty Aztec people. Tell me ,friend, what blood type are you?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_REFUSE_TO_TALK_LEADER_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>Don't try my patience, [CT_NAME]! Go away in peace!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_NO_PEACE_LEADER_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>No, this is a war I must win! Besides, there are so many warriors we need to sacrifice!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FR_LEADER_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>Hello, [CT_NAME]! Came to admire [OUR_CIV_SHORT]?</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_GREETINGS_ATT_FUR_LEADER_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>Didn't I defeat you already?!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_WEAKER_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>Give us this! We need the sun to shine tomorrow too!</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_EQUAL_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>Our eagle and jaguar warriors await your decision, [CT_NAME]...</English>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>AI_DIPLO_DEMAND_TRIBUTE_POWER_STRONGER_ITZCOATL_1</Tag>
<English>You're my next target! Unless you give me this, of course!</English>
</TEXT>

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

Well, we already have text for Mongkut, mostly based on The King and I.

 

[MadmanOfALeader]

By the way, Igor, if the Kazakhs are aliens... I think that means Sacha Baron Cohen works for the Men in Black.