Cammagno
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After I had tried it, I have to say that you were right, it's better in the original way. The allert levels are ok for me.
BTS Unaltered Gameplay Project
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After I had tried it, I have to say that you were right, it's better in the original way. The allert levels are ok for me.
Interesting mod. Do all mods now existing in the mods folder function with this? Also, after installing I checked if BTS had any updates and one showed up, is this in response to this mod? I should have the most current update and so I was thinking there was a tie in. Further, I was playing an ultra large world map by gehnis kia (spelling?) and there are 34 civs in game and the score list off to the right side of the screen is not shown completely, meaning the top scores run off the top screen. This is unwanted for several reasons and something I am hoping your mod fixes. Do you have a fix like this included or can you see about getting one? I think just reorganizing them would be fine. Thanks for all the work!
EmperorFool
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I'm not sure what you mean by "all mods now existing in the mods folder", but if you mean other mods posted to this site then it depends. If the mods change the same files (like CvMainInterface or CvEventsInterface), then probably not. They would need to be merged and made aware of each other. Many XML-only mods should work fine with ours, however.
I doubt BtS was updated in response to our mod.
There are several issues with BtS, and hopefully this latest patch fixes some of them. See Solver's Unofficial Patch for things that are currently broken in BtS.
Regarding the scores, one option would be to always show the top X scores (set in options), though always show your own score. If you're not in the top X, you'd simply be listed at the bottom of the list.
A better solution requiring more work would be page up/down buttons allowing you to scroll the scores. I suppose if someone made some simple buttons this wouldn't be too hard. They could simply be the city left/right buttons rotated 90 degrees. Any artists wanna take a crack at those?
I doubt BtS was updated in response to our mod.
There are several issues with BtS, and hopefully this latest patch fixes some of them. See Solver's Unofficial Patch for things that are currently broken in BtS.Regarding the scores, one option would be to always show the top X scores (set in options), though always show your own score. If you're not in the top X, you'd simply be listed at the bottom of the list.
A better solution requiring more work would be page up/down buttons allowing you to scroll the scores. I suppose if someone made some simple buttons this wouldn't be too hard. They could simply be the city left/right buttons rotated 90 degrees. Any artists wanna take a crack at those?
EmperorFool
Deity
I've been thinking about the color levels a little more. For one thing, I'm a little hesitant to tie them to the U.S.'s terror alert levels for many reasons, one being that it's U.S.-centric. (Don't get be started on the other reasons.)
Another problem with it is that it may be information overload for the user. Options are great, but they can get annoying or overwhelming if there are too many. I'd seriously have a tough time choosing reasonable values to differentiate the power and espionage ratios into five categories. Picking two values was hard and arbitrary enough -- four just seems unreal.
Finally, "good", "ok" and "bad" just seem natural to me. Everyone understands those classifications, and they're also easy to translate.
As for putting the color choices on the General tab and only having other options set just the values, one problem is that some people may want to set different colors for different options. For me, red is very difficult to see against the dark blue background of the espionage screen, but it's not too bad in the scores. I'd probably just pick colors that work everywhere, but will this suffice for everyone else?
I'd also like to change CDA to use these colors. Currently it displays number values using three colors: good, bad and ok. So this would fit naturally. What do you guys think?
I'd like some feedback on this, even if it's brief. I'd like to nail it down ASAP and move on to other tasks.
Another problem with it is that it may be information overload for the user. Options are great, but they can get annoying or overwhelming if there are too many. I'd seriously have a tough time choosing reasonable values to differentiate the power and espionage ratios into five categories. Picking two values was hard and arbitrary enough -- four just seems unreal.
Finally, "good", "ok" and "bad" just seem natural to me. Everyone understands those classifications, and they're also easy to translate.
As for putting the color choices on the General tab and only having other options set just the values, one problem is that some people may want to set different colors for different options. For me, red is very difficult to see against the dark blue background of the espionage screen, but it's not too bad in the scores. I'd probably just pick colors that work everywhere, but will this suffice for everyone else?
I'd also like to change CDA to use these colors. Currently it displays number values using three colors: good, bad and ok. So this would fit naturally. What do you guys think?
I'd like some feedback on this, even if it's brief. I'd like to nail it down ASAP and move on to other tasks.
err, well yeah I guess that was kind of vague.
I simply meant the mods I had previously downloaded. I am not sure of the mechanic which allows firaxis to know when a patch is available or not and I thought that maybe your mod changes something that triggers the update notification.
Is there a way to give this mod a trigger to switch it on/off, kinda like with bluemarble? Now that would be awesome.
I simply meant the mods I had previously downloaded. I am not sure of the mechanic which allows firaxis to know when a patch is available or not and I thought that maybe your mod changes something that triggers the update notification. Is there a way to give this mod a trigger to switch it on/off, kinda like with bluemarble? Now that would be awesome.
Goldflash
Civ III Modder, Civ VII Player
You know, I'm all for this project, but I'm pretty sure is illegal to use an Acronym within an acronym.
EmperorFool
Deity
I've fixed this and will commit it once I can test it out.
If someone can verify that HoF mod has fixed the "alerts one turn too late" issues, I'll incorporate the fixes this weekend. I've always noticed this and looking at the code now, it's clear why. It performs the check in onEndGameTurn().
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
you know, you are right. I better go and turn myself into the nearest police station. I wonder what the penalty will be? Forced to hit Ctrl-Enter 10 times at the start of all my golden ages?
I can verify that they were looking at it. I think they solved it but ... I don't know.
EmperorFool
Deity
I did some work on CDA again. It's in SVN.
If you want to try some sample layouts, backup your CustomDomAdv.txt file and gives this one a try:
- Bonus columns have icon headers.
- Existing bonus columns show green "x" if the city has it or red "-" if not.
- New set of bonus columns shows the actual effects of each bonus, including those due to corporations.*
If you want to try some sample layouts, backup your CustomDomAdv.txt file and gives this one a try:
Spoiler CustomDomAdv.txt :
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
and to think that I was getting worried about how complex the unit naming convention was getting ... that file looks like a complete set of gobbledy goook.
Seriously though, is there a way to disable this programs affects short of uninstalling it? Ive tried reading through this thread but it is massive and techie at parts and so I was not able to glean much. I love the changes, the graphics are awesome and the interfaces are so improved my jaw dropped the first time I saw everything 
The only thing is that any mod that changes core game play seems not to run with this 
And I just love certain expanded future era game play.
The only thing is that any mod that changes core game play seems not to run with this And I just love certain expanded future era game play.
EmperorFool
Deity
If you haven't installed anything else (like BlueMarble) into your CustomAssets folder, simply rename the folder to disable everything. CustomAssets is in your "My Games\Beyond the Sword" folder.
All of our changes have options on them to disable individual features, but if the game fails to work with other mods, it's at the code level and won't fix the problem. The other thing you can do is to install this mod as a real mod -- not in CustomAssets but in its own mod folder. This means you can't use it with other mods that do work, but them's the breaks.
To install it as a full mod, create a folder in your Mods folder called "BUG", rename "CustomAssets" to "Assets" and move it inside "BUG".
All of our changes have options on them to disable individual features, but if the game fails to work with other mods, it's at the code level and won't fix the problem. The other thing you can do is to install this mod as a real mod -- not in CustomAssets but in its own mod folder. This means you can't use it with other mods that do work, but them's the breaks.
To install it as a full mod, create a folder in your Mods folder called "BUG", rename "CustomAssets" to "Assets" and move it inside "BUG".
EmperorFool
Deity
I thought that option was only available when starting a new game.
EmperorFool
Deity
I had a little time to work tonight, so I added the GP Progress Bar to the main view.
I was thinking about the doing combat counter similarly: put the same type of bar as on the Military Advisor next to the GP Progress Bar. If both are displayed, the Great General bar would be shorter since it doesn't need the city name or turns.
Basically you just need to know how many XPs you are away from your next GG. It might be confusing showing it as (x) just like the # of turns until research and GP complete though.
@Alerum - Have you had a chance to tackle rearranging the scoreboard? No worries if not -- I just wanna know as I was thinking about some other ideas for it: creating blank font icons the same size as the religion/OB/TN ones to make lining them up easier.
I was thinking about the doing combat counter similarly: put the same type of bar as on the Military Advisor next to the GP Progress Bar. If both are displayed, the Great General bar would be shorter since it doesn't need the city name or turns.
Code:
[######Research: Fire Ant Juggling (4)######----------------]
[#Great General (x)#--] [####Great Person: City (x)##-------]
.Basically you just need to know how many XPs you are away from your next GG. It might be confusing showing it as (x) just like the # of turns until research and GP complete though.
@Alerum - Have you had a chance to tackle rearranging the scoreboard? No worries if not -- I just wanna know as I was thinking about some other ideas for it: creating blank font icons the same size as the religion/OB/TN ones to make lining them up easier.
alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
No I haven't yet. I've had alot or RL issues going on this last week or so, and haven't been even able to play a turn either. isa I'll have time this weekend, but I doubt it. But yes, I think it would be easier to make blank icons as filler as opposed trying to space. I'm still trying to figure out a way to change the words for techs to icons too. I don't want to make the .tga file with them, but I don't see another way.
isa I'll have time this weekend, but I doubt it. But yes, I think it would be easier to make blank icons as filler as opposed trying to space. I'm still trying to figure out a way to change the words for techs to icons too. I don't want to make the .tga file with them, but I don't see another way.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
I've committed the next version of the unit naming code. It isn't complete but the groundwork, comments and general approach that I plan to take are all there. I've also updated the ini file with the various options that you can use.
The era / unit class options only come into play if you check 'advanced'. These options are not available from the option screen (who has room).
I plan on getting this to a testing stage by Sunday. Feel free to take a look at my suggested approach and tell me that I have it all wrong.
The era / unit class options only come into play if you check 'advanced'. These options are not available from the option screen (who has room).
Spoiler updated ini file :
I plan on getting this to a testing stage by Sunday. Feel free to take a look at my suggested approach and tell me that I have it all wrong.
Hello again. Thanks for the responses, they actually proved quite helpful and running this as a mod seems to work just fine! There is now a problem coming up when I open the ctrl-alt-O options screen in that once open I can't close it again. I remember reading about this somewhere in here but could not find the post, (I "only" spent 5 min looking before I decided to post), so if you have a solution I am open for it. A lot of things are clicked off and I would like to change that but as right now the screen is being stubborn I can't. 
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