Bugs with v141.2

[Prodigyx732]

1.) This probably isn't really a bug, but I noticed when a scout get's promoted for the first time, they get the choice of recon, which is +1 sight and ignore terrain cost. The other two is for +15 defense open/rough terrain and +1 sight. However, scout already ignores terrain cost.
I know this would be useful for when you upgrade the scout into a levy unit. Just not sure if it is intentional or not.

2.) The siege promotion tooltip reads +35% against cities. However in the attack box when I go to attack a city, it reads Bonus vs Cities 30%.
Side note: I think siege should be separated into two promotions. 20% then 30% or 25/25

3.) My unit has march +2 healing and a nearby scout has medic +2 healing giving a total of +4 healing every turn. If I fortify within an enemy border it is still +4 and If I fortify outside an enemy border it is +5. Normally it's suppose to be +6 and +7 respectively, but it appears fortify blocks the march heal.
Update: For my actual scout (archer now) he heals +7 with fortify + medic + survivalism but it appears this only happens during the fortify process. Didn't think medic would actually heal the unit that has it.
Update2: I then later discovered march actually heals for +3, so with medic it should be +5, however it's only +4. Unless of course, march act's in the same way fortify does, only +2 heal when inside enemy border.

4.) Not a bug, but Cover II is OP. It gives +50% damage reduction against ranged attacks, and Cover I gives +25% giving a total of +75%. My suggestion? 20% and 30% of course or 25/25

5.)When a melee attacks in rough terrain, blitz is useless for those with only 2 movement. Would be nice too see a promotion to give +1 movement for units that don't have it.

6.) On the tech tree, every tech has progress 11/XXX, so like I already have 11 research for future tech even though I'm still in the classical era. I did notice however, I researched 11 techs excluding agriculture so maybe that's the culprit? Not sure what the purpose of this is or even if it is intentional, but if it is.. I noticed optics is at 17/XXX and masonry is at 23/XXX. I re-checked after saving/loading and this bug disappeared. Could be result of CSD (is enabled in options) which I'm actually gonna turn off cause I never see the AI use it with this mod.

I would update to v142, however I don't feel like starting over again
I'll edit if I find any more.

 

[Thalassicus]

The reason Recon 1 ignores terrain is it provided me -50% unhappiness from the community population when I decided to remove that effect from upgrading scouts.

I think I fixed the siege tooltip mistake in v142; please double-check that.

The march promotion does not increase healing. It just allows it to occur regardless of what actions we take with the unit. Did I misunderstand that part?

Multipliers add in civ instead of multiplying, so in a real combat situation Cover II does not provide +50%. It's closer to a +27% bonus on ranged defense. Compare that to Blitz, which increases attack damage by approximately +100%.

 

[Prodigyx732]

well the tooltip for march says "heals every turn" nothing about fortify. So I figured, okay, it stacks with fortify. So now I'm assuming at that point, the only purpose to fortify is the extra defense bonus.

I figured Cover's were added together cause my spearmen, being attacked by 2 cities which only did 1 damage each, and 1 archer doing 1-2 damage. But he also was fortified and had discipline so that could be why.

Which actually brings me to a suggestion, you should put a hard cap on it where if your attacked more then once (or twice) during 1 turn, you do not receive XP. My spearmen was racking up 6 XP every turn. Strangely however, he leveled rather quickly, from like 5-8. He would just get promoted, then I would look at his XP two turns later, and it would be like 28/60. Not exact numbers, but he had more XP then he should of had. I'll have too look more into it.

 

[Thalassicus]

Normally units don't heal if they attack or move during their turn. March allows the unit to "heal every turn" regardless of what actions we take. It's a challenge to sum this up in a few words for a tooltip.

 

[Prodigyx732]

ahh I understand now rofl, and heals like medic apply to other units regardless of actions and will apply to self but only when fortified (after not using a movement point of course) Same applies to survivalism.

The tooltips threw me off so I called it a bug

 

[Thalassicus]

What if we changed the March tooltip to...

• Allows healing regardless of actions.
• Can heal after attacking or moving.
• Actions don't interrupt healing.
• Something else?

 

[albie_123]

B sounds the most concise and descriptive to me, and still reads like a vanilla description.

 

[Prodigyx732]

B sounds fantastic.

or "No longer needs to be fortified to heal"

Not sure how clever my example is though

 

[Thalassicus]

Units do not heal if they:

• Move
• Attack
• Upgrade (consumes both attack and movement points)
• Probably something else I forgot

They can heal if they:

• Fortify
• Garrison
• Wait (mounted units wait instead of fortifying)
• Select a promotion

 

[Seek]

"Heals every turn ... No matter what!"