C2C- Industrial and Modern Era

[Azurian]

Discussion for Industrial and Modern Era buildings, civics, units, resources, wonders, and other related content.

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"
Renaissance Era 1300 to 1750.
]Industrial Era 1750 to 1935.
Modern Era 1935 to 2010.[/COLOR]






Modern Era, I have some Tech/Buiding Ideas. Top of my head..

Spoiler :

Dietary Guidelines,
Product Labeling,
Digital Art,
Optical Disc,
Processed Foods,
Self Improvement (as in Self Help Books and Seminars ),
Cubicle Workplace,
GUI,
Postal Service,
Fast Food
Community Playgrounds (pools, parks, kids playgrounds, rv camping, summer camps)
Pyschohistory (Asimov),
Welfare System,
Business Ethics,
Nightlife,
Synthesizer,
leisure class
human condition
industrial arts
Highway System,
Social stratification
Antarctic Exploration,
Alternative Medicines
Associations (teacher, police etc)
Technicolor (1950s+ movies and cartoons)
Modern Dancing
minimalism.
X-rays
blood typing and blood banking made blood transfusion
circadian rhythms
Contraceptive drugs
cruise ships,
freighters
paperback books
global commercial air travel
Suburbia
Individualism
Food irradication
nuclear medicine
Atomic Age
Modern Toys
Big Box Retailers
Stadiums (sports, concerts)
Cosmetics
Colored Ink (1940s comic books, magazines )
Amusement Parks
Nutrition
Printer
Dewey Library System
Typewriter
Philanthropy
Air Conditioning
Projector
Jeans (as a social movement)
Pharmaceuticals
Headphones
Boombox
Acrylic paints /cryola
Raves
Swing, jazz, trance, electronica
Barcodes
Paparazzi /tabloids
Stuffed animals/barbie/action figures
Hypermasculinity
Fairs /carnivals/circus
Magic tricks
Dog shows
Horse racing
Black Friday
Martin Luther King speech
Pantyhose /Bra/ swimwear
Pawn shops
Multiplex
Alcohol anonymous
Detectives
Motorcycles /biker gangs
Sitcoms
Pop Stars
Academy Awards/Oscars /Grammys
Retirement home
Sneakers
Tshirt
Chocolates
Valentines Day, Halloween
Daylight Savings
Smart watch
Calculators
Anime
Keys
Childcare
Junk Food
Printed Tshirts
Laptops
Personal Computers
Tailored Suits
Taxi
Roswell /area 51
Children literature
Pinball /billards
Alarm clock

 

[Azurian]

Out of the list, I think this should be added to Modern Era Technologies:


Synthesizer (trance, electronica, tech, house, autotune)
Technicolor (1934–1997 movies and animated cartoons)
Product Labeling
Digital Art
Fast Food
Alternative Medicines
Self Improvement
Software
GUI

 

[LumenAngel]

Hit Video Game ressource (similar to Hit Musics or Movie ressource) for Modern Era ^^

But before some crazy idea, I think Industrial Era must be the true begin of pollution problem, with nearly all production building giving pollution with nearly no reduce pollution building.
In war, defense is a little more powerfull than attack (like in Medieval Era) and a technological gap can be a big ussue.

Modern era must be more about increase pollution/population than flat pollution. And maybe add some water pollution to best ship. Unhapiness and crime from population have to start being a problem. You need nearly all mineral ressource and special ressource to build everything, forcing trade (but today, AI dont like trading a lot...).
In war, mass destruction weapons make war something a little crazy, unless you are a lot against only one civ. Spy is the best way to make war.

 

[Azurian]

Hit Video Game ressource (similar to Hit Musics or Movie ressource) for Modern Era ^^

But before some crazy idea, I think Industrial Era must be the true begin of pollution problem, with nearly all production building giving pollution with nearly no reduce pollution building.
In war, defense is a little more powerfull than attack (like in Medieval Era) and a technological gap can be a big ussue.

Modern era must be more about increase pollution/population than flat pollution. And maybe add some water pollution to best ship. Unhapiness and crime from population have to start being a problem. You need nearly all mineral ressource and special ressource to build everything, forcing trade (but today, AI dont like trading a lot...).
In war, mass destruction weapons make war something a little crazy, unless you are a lot against only one civ. Spy is the best way to make war.

I agree that it should be increased polution. I think the Modern Era is way to simplified to be honest.

An example is Computers. There were like 3-4 stages of Computers between 1950-2010. GUI was a big deal, as Software/Operating System was a big deal.

• This could be in a Tech called Early Computers.
• Konrad Zuse's electromechanical “Z machines.” The Z3 (1941)
• The non-programmable Atanasoff–Berry Computer (1941)
• The secret British Colossus computers (1943)
• The U.S. Army's Ballistic Research Laboratory ENIAC (1946)
• vacuum tubes Computers (1950s).
  Early computers can have Programming language, Machine Code, and Binary.

The current Computers Tech is 1980s home computers/ ubiquitous personal computer.

For Software could be combine GUI, 3-D Graphics, Integrated Circuits, Operating System, and Mainfraimes, and 1990-2004 Technology.

Flash Memory can cover 2004-2020.


There is no mention of Synthesizers

Here are some Tech Ideas I proposed in Tech Tree Discussion.

Spoiler :

Industrial Era

Typewriter

fter their invention in the 1860s, typewriters quickly became indispensable tools for practically all writing other than personal correspondence. They were widely used by professional writers, in offices, and for business correspondence in private homes. By the end of the 1980s, word processors and personal computers had largely displaced typewriters in most of these uses in the Western world, but as of the 2010s the typewriter is still prominent in many parts of the world including India.

Facsimile

A facsimile (from Latin fac simile ('make alike'), a spelling that remained in currency until the late 19th century) is a copy or reproduction of an old book, manuscript, map, art print, or other item of historical value that is as true to the original source as possible. It differs from other forms of reproduction by attempting to replicate the source as accurately as possible in terms of scale, color, condition, and other material qualities. Printing Press--->Facsmile

Blueprints

contact print process on light-sensitive sheets. Invented in the 19th century, the process allowed rapid and accurate reproduction of documents used in construction and industry. The blue-print process was characterized by light colored lines on a blue background, a negative of the original. The process was unable to reproduce color or shades of grey.

Pneumatic Tires

The first practical pneumatic tire was made by Scottish inventor John Boyd Dunlop while working as a veterinarian in May Street, Belfast in 1887 for his son's bicycle, in an effort to prevent the headaches his son had while riding on rough roads

mail-order catalog

Mail order is a term which describes the buying of goods or services by mail delivery. The buyer places an order for the desired products with the merchant through some remote method such as through a telephone call or web site. Then, the products are delivered to the customers

Tech Ideas for Eras


Modern Era
Synthesizer (trance, electronica, tech, house, autotune)
Product Labeling
Digital Art
Fast Food
Alternative Medicines
Self Improvement
Software
GUI
Vending Machines
Individualism
Big Box Retailers

Newsreel

(A newsreel was a form of short documentary film prevalent in the first half of the twentieth century, regularly released in a public presentation place and containing filmed news stories and items of topical interest. It was a source of news, current affairs, and entertainment for millions of moviegoers until television supplanted its role in the 1950. so Newsreel ---->Televison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsreel).

Research Institute

(Research institutes came to emerge at the beginning of the twentieth century. In 1900, at least in Europe and the United States, the scientific profession had only evolved so far as to include the theoretical implications of science and not its application. Research scientists had yet to establish a leadership in expertise.so Compulsory Education---->Research Institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_institute).

Convenience food

Convenience food, or tertiary processed food, is commercially prepared food designed for ease of consumption. Convenience foods include prepared foods such as ready-to-eat foods, frozen foods such as TV dinners, shelf-stable products and prepared mixes such as cake mix.

 

[Hydromancerx]

Reposting here.

@MrAzure

Please do not add any techs for now unless specifically asked to make them.

- Synthesizer - Probably could fall under Electronics tech
- Animation - Already have animation tech.
- Product Labeling - Hmm. Seems too minor.
- Digital Art - Maybe
- Fast Food - Maybe
- Alternative Medicines - Can fall under Counterculture
- Self Improvement - No.
- Software - Covered by the various computer techs.
- Vending Machines - Better as a building and not a tech.
- Individualism - Probably also under counterculture
- Big Box Retailers - Thinks it already covered by consumerism.
- Newsreel - Already have Motion Pictures and Propaganda tech.
- Research Institute - This is currently a building. No need to make it its own tech.
- Convenience food - Isn't this the same as fast food?

- Typewriter- Possibly. At least a building
- Facsimile - No.
- Blueprints - Covered by Architecture tech.
- Pneumatic Tires - Too specific.
- Mail-order catalog - Also too specific.

 

[gay_Aleks]

I'd say we should introduce a "Server" building, which would cover several sites we know now, such Wikipedia, DeviantArt, eBay, which would give , and bonuses, respectively. Some further on techs would give more bonuses to these buildings, and there would be "National Server of x Site", which would provide x Server in all cities plus a major or or bonus, plus for Great Scientist, Great Artist and Great Merchant. Also, those GPs can build "National Server of x Site" in a city.

Also, new Projects, or browsers. Or, perhaps, we could implement those browsers as techs. However I don't know what would they do/give. Just an idea, ya know.

A new technology: The Internet. Because I despise how Firaxis just plopped in The Internet in Fiber Optics, this is my revenge. Basically, the Internet would give the Project with the same name, plus ISP Offices (and some early internet buildings).

 

[Azurian]

That reminds me, I never finished the Wiki buiding or Wikipedia.
I think with a Programming Lab, it should take care am of servers and browsers.

The main issues are the generalization of Electricity, Combustion, and Railroads. They evolved over 200 years, and you are missing some very big industrial inventions like :

the Battery,
Telephone,(came 30 years after Telepgraph),
Cotton Gin,
Electric Motor (came 80 years before the first car),
Photographic Film (can 90 years after photography)
Journalism
Ironclad Ships,
Elevators/Skyscrapers
microphone
building codes
appliances (they came 100 years before refrigeration)
Cement

Remember that the Industrial Revolution came in two phases:
-Steam Power (Stage I)
-Mass Production/Steel (Stage II)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Industrial_Revolution






Renissance needs:

Electromagnetism
barometer
graphite pencil / quill your choice
Mercator cartography
the study of light and prsims


These are Industrial Era concepts we can use
Standard Units
1662 – Robert Boyle: Boyle's law of ideal gas

1771 – Charles Messier: Publishes catalogue of astronomical objects (Messier Objects) now known to include galaxies, star clusters, and nebulae.

1778 – Antoine Lavoisier (and Joseph Priestley): discovery of oxygen leading to end of Phlogiston theory

1781 – William Herschel announces discovery of Uranus, expanding the known boundaries of the solar system for the first time in modern history

1796 – Georges Cuvier: Establishes extinction as a fact

1830 - Nikolai Lobachevsky created Non-Euclidean geometry

1833 – Anselme Payen isolates first enzyme, diastase

1838 – Matthias Schleiden: all plants are made of cells

1846 – William Morton: discovery of anesthesia

1848 – Lord Kelvin: absolute zero

1865 – Gregor Mendel: Mendel's laws of inheritance, basis for genetics

1869 – Dmitri Mendeleev: Periodic table

1895 – Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen discovers x-rays

1896 – Henri Becquerel discovers radioactivity

1898 - J.J. Thomson proposed the Plum pudding model of an atom

I would add these concepts somehow to Industrial
rename Electricity to Electromagnetism and send it to renaissance
Add:

Electrical Dynamo
Typewriter
Appliances
Individualism
Frontiersman
Light Bulb
Fossil Fuels (1860s)
Manifest Destiny
Gin Argiculture
Fire Extinguisher
Cement
Telephone
Skyscrapers
synthetic fibers
denim
zipper,
ironclad ships
performing Arts
Stage Magic

Baroque music (1600-1750) aka George Frideric Handel,Johann Sebastian Bach, Antonio Vivaldi
Classical music (1750-1820) aka Wolfgang Mozart, Franz Haydn, Franz Schubert
Romantic music (1820-1910) aka Pyotr Tchaikovsky,Frédéric Chopin, Ludwig van Beethoven
Modernism music (1920-2000) aka Igor Stravinsky, Claude Debussy, Arnold Schoenberg

gas turbine
volt battery
smokeless gunpowder
photographic film (after photography)
seismograph (leads to volcanology)
microphone
Phonograph
telephone
Stock Market - 1870
Elevator (or Skyscrapers)
pasteurization
Matches (modern)
Calculator (or mechanical computer)

I see some good stuff, especially with Music, Matches, and Frontiersman.
Industrial did occur in 2 parts.
Strategy Only wants more stuff in this eras, I think we are missing a bit of cowboys, expeditions, world fairs, and manifest Destiny.