C2C - UEM - Ultimate-Earth-Map 100% MOD and SVN update compatible by Pit2015

[Blazenclaw]

Is fox news trustworthy enouth in the US to say the pentagon offical confirming that it is from navy records?

Fox News in particular is incredibly untrustworthy, though pretty much all large media corporations are to varying degrees.

In this case: Yes the Pentagon is declassifying some records of "Unidentified Flying Objects", because there are literally hundreds or thousands of recordings of either camera artifacts or objects in the air that are... unidentified. This does not an alien make, but it can be spun into "Aliens?!?!" by a profit-seeking company that wants viewers.

Regarding the actual videos themselves, there are many explanations that are orders of magnitude more likely than that required for "Aliens!". Here's an example of someone who put some basic understanding of how cameras work to perfectly explain a number of previously released videos (you'll need to look at his other content for a breakdown of each):

 

[JosEPh_II]

Bit of info, The US Navy late last year applied for a patent and received it for a working Anti-Gravity vehicle. This vehicle not only can fly but also works under water as well. It is also space worthy. They have working units.

And to the statement about untrustworthy media, All the big networks and their cable subsidiaries are in fact now propaganda outlets. CNN, in particular, has been fully exposed and is being sued for their overt actions against companies and people they have lied and manipulated stories about.

 

[raxo2222]

And to the statement about untrustworthy media, All the big networks and their cable subsidiaries are in fact now propaganda outlets. CNN, in particular, has been fully exposed and is being sued for their overt actions against companies and people they have lied and manipulated stories about.

Internet like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube are full of propaganda too.

At this point you need critical thinking, or just treat everything as a gossip.
"We are doomed" stories are pure fear propaganda and nothing else.

If something wakes strong feelings, then you can safely assume, that it was exaggerated or fabricated story - that is being some clickbait or satire article.

 

[Blazenclaw]

Bit of info, The US Navy late last year applied for a patent and received it for a working Anti-Gravity vehicle. This vehicle not only can fly but also works under water as well. It is also space worthy. They have working units.

I think this is the patent you're referring to. Having worked with patents recently.... successfully getting a patent really has little to no bearing on whether or not a thing is functional in reality. An excerpt from the linked anti-grav patent:

If we can engineer the structure of the local quantum vacuum state, we can engineer the fabric of our reality at the most fundamental level (thus affecting a physical system's inertial and gravitational properties).

This excerpt basically reads "Hey, if I'm omnipotent, I can also make something not affected by gravity!"
The reason why the Navy would pursue such a thing is that if there's even a 0.01% chance the described mechanism is true, then it's worth the investment because the Navy (and Armed Forces in general) have money to throw at long shots like this.

It does NOT mean they have a working antigravity device; this is them covering a crackpot, just in case.

Edit: Well, the Navy certainly has a great many devices that are capable of defeating the pull of gravity; the second largest Air Force in the world is the United States Navy after all, but that's a fundamentally different mechanism than removing inertial mass or some negative mass shenanigans as might be imagined.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I really don't see how there's a question or really ever has been about whether we are visited or not. There are many thousands of eye witness accounts throughout every era and the things the military has caught on camera clearly verify the things pilots have been saying ever since flight was invented about the things occasionally seen and their capabilities. And yes, there's a strong possibility that we have some of those technologies ourselves and not all things we might witness are specifically aliens. That the military is trying a new approach that appears to involve some small degree of honesty finally, admitting that yes, the tip of the iceberg in evidence they are actually sharing is actually beyond our ability to explain is a signal that we are preparing to expose some more information and just want to do so very gradually so as not to cause a cultural shock syndrome. A shift in policy was inevitable because there's only so long you can cover up what so many people directly witness. Furthermore, we will have to explain some of our own inventions that have been a result of back-engineering programs.

It is wise to keep from being overly committed to any particular belief about sources of any specific event or video or whatever but to think that we the people of the planet have a clue where our actual scientific cutting edge is is to me a laughable idea. Without the next great war erupting, you won't have a clue how much top TOP secret stuff we actually have except that sometimes we get a blithering idiot in office who outright says what we're capable of, leaving the PR guys to have to scramble to get the media to make fun of it as if it was simply a misunderstanding that led to THAT comment. Where we ACTUALLY are is likely some light years beyond where we think we are and there's a reason the government doesn't want to invest much into the space program and is letting privateers take over there - because they know whatever they invest is pretty much a waste into perpetuating the lie that we aren't already far beyond that point we want to make public.

That's what I THINK - what I find to be the most logical conclusion when you look at the full picture - obviously it's not what I KNOW and I do know there's a difference. I could be wrong. We're probably ALL very very wrong about a lot of things but the more you stop relying on 'official sources' the more you stop listening to the propaganda to hold back the truth for political and tactical reasons - a secret weapon isn't a secret if people can verify it exists - and the more we stop relying on the conspiracy theorists trying to make money from some kind of cool story spin on what the data MIGHT mean as if it means something conclusive, the less we get led astray by private profiteering on the intrigue. The truth is neither. It can't be either one. But if you look at it all and come to your own conclusions you might be more right than those following the shock messaging.

One thing I CAN say is that no matter what is revealed, it STILL won't be the full picture. Lies are like onions, they are peeled back in layers.

 

[raxo2222]

I really don't see how there's a question or really ever has been about whether we are visited or not. There are many thousands of eye witness accounts throughout every era and the things the military has caught on camera clearly verify the things pilots have been saying ever since flight was invented about the things occasionally seen and their capabilities. And yes, there's a strong possibility that we have some of those technologies ourselves and not all things we might witness are specifically aliens. That the military is trying a new approach that appears to involve some small degree of honesty finally, admitting that yes, the tip of the iceberg in evidence they are actually sharing is actually beyond our ability to explain is a signal that we are preparing to expose some more information and just want to do so very gradually so as not to cause a cultural shock syndrome. A shift in policy was inevitable because there's only so long you can cover up what so many people directly witness. Furthermore, we will have to explain some of our own inventions that have been a result of back-engineering programs.

It is wise to keep from being overly committed to any particular belief about sources of any specific event or video or whatever but to think that we the people of the planet have a clue where our actual scientific cutting edge is is to me a laughable idea. Without the next great war erupting, you won't have a clue how much top TOP secret stuff we actually have except that sometimes we get a blithering idiot in office who outright says what we're capable of, leaving the PR guys to have to scramble to get the media to make fun of it as if it was simply a misunderstanding that led to THAT comment. Where we ACTUALLY are is likely some light years beyond where we think we are and there's a reason the government doesn't want to invest much into the space program and is letting privateers take over there - because they know whatever they invest is pretty much a waste into perpetuating the lie that we aren't already far beyond that point we want to make public.

That's what I THINK - what I find to be the most logical conclusion when you look at the full picture - obviously it's not what I KNOW and I do know there's a difference. I could be wrong. We're probably ALL very very wrong about a lot of things but the more you stop relying on 'official sources' the more you stop listening to the propaganda to hold back the truth for political and tactical reasons - a secret weapon isn't a secret if people can verify it exists - and the more we stop relying on the conspiracy theorists trying to make money from some kind of cool story spin on what the data MIGHT mean as if it means something conclusive, the less we get led astray by private profiteering on the intrigue. The truth is neither. It can't be either one. But if you look at it all and come to your own conclusions you might be more right than those following the shock messaging.

One thing I CAN say is that no matter what is revealed, it STILL won't be the full picture. Lies are like onions, they are peeled back in layers.

I wonder if you play Stellaris.

 

[Pit2015]

Why UFO is trolling Americans and not anyone else?
Is tormenting most powerful country on planet their national sport?

UFO reports are worldwide not only in the US if you look deeper into the info, more cases worldwide than in the USA only.

In the 90's in the belgium UFO wave i was a teenager and we saw something strange in a group of guys a long time and close, it was in germany also, i life not to far away from the belgium border, about 100-200 km but its not reported we also saw it in germany, i dont talk to much about it in the last years but i can tell you its definitiv real and hard to build for humans, the only question is whats behind this. TR-3B antigrav plane is told to be behind it, but i dont think the US have a TR-3B, well i can be wrong but think about it, if the US has a plane that is cable of spaceflight with no problem then elon musk and the NASA will be bankrupt soon, no need for rockets worldwide anymore.

(May be fake, i dont researched this video alot, but alot of reports on triangle UFO's worldwide for years now)

Another theory is new hypersonic drones of a earth country can be behind this but alot of the objects also in the 90's are very large, too large. So maybe a small part may be behind this as hypersonic drones. Also the powerfull maneuvers the crafts can do are hard to invent. Next problem triangle UFO's new research also shows they are already reported before aviation was invented on earth.

I really don't see how there's a question or really ever has been about whether we are visited or not. There are many thousands of eye witness accounts throughout every era and the things the military has caught on camera clearly verify the things pilots have been saying ever since flight was invented about the things occasionally seen and their capabilities.

Yep.

So what is interesting is that if the military is official releasing alot of new intel, it looks like they also dont know what is behind this at all or they know it now.

Documentary about the 90's wave and triangle UFO's and why these are not B2 bombers or normal stealth technology. You can turn on subtitels in english in youtube.

 

[raxo2222]

UFO reports are worldwide not only in the US if you look deeper into the info, more cases worldwide than in the USA only.

In the 90's in the belgium UFO wave i was a teenager and we saw something strange in a group of guys a long time and close, it was in germany also, i life not to far away from the belgium border, about 100-200 km but its not reported we also saw it in germany, i dont talk to much about it in the last years but i can tell you its definitiv real an hard to build for humans, the only question is whats behind this. TR-3B antigrav plane is told to be behind it, but i dont think the US have a TR-3B, well i can be wrong but think about it, if the US has a plane that is cable of spaceflight with no problem then elon musk and the NASA will be bankrupt soon, no need for rockets worldwide anymore.

(May be fake, i dont researched this video alot, but alot of reports on triangle UFO's worldwide for years now)

Another theory is new hypersonic drones of a earth country can be behind this but alot of the objects also in the 90's are very large, too large. So maybe a small part may be behind this as hypersonic drones. Also the powerfull maneuvers the crafts can do are hard to invent. Next problem triangle UFO's new research also shows they are already reported before aviation was invented on earth.



Yep.

So what is interesting is that if the military is official releasing alot of new intel, it looks like they also dont know what is behind this at all or they know it now.

Documentary about the 90's wave and triangle UFO's and why these are not B2 bombers or normal stealth technology. You can turn on subtitels in english in youtube.

Want their computers, that can run Caveman2Cosmos at turn per second?
Or that they can rewrite it, so its multithhreaded and 64 bit?

 

[Thunderbrd]

I wonder if you play Stellaris.

I haven't but it sounds based on a very rational overall outlook of the realms of real possibility.

 

[Thunderbrd]

if the US has a plane that is cable of spaceflight with no problem then elon musk and the NASA will be bankrupt soon, no need for rockets worldwide anymore.

IMO, this goes back to the 80s when the Shuttle program was very publicly shut down. To me it was always too suspicious that it was the highest profile flight among hundreds of very secretive ones that had such a big fireworks outcome. Reagan often spoke as if he knew there was a lot more going on than he could really explain. He even once divulged how he saw some ships like you said yourself. Many presidents since then have. Since, we've had tons of HUGELY expensive programs that hardly achieve any of their own stated goals and it was well put in 'Independence Day' about how much was on the books for hammers and toilet seats. We ran the X prize program that Musk won repeatedly for hitting milestones in private space flight programs and I'm pretty convinced its because we wanted to get someone to make it look like we cared to progress still on a public level. Will Musk be made poor? I doubt it... he's still making some improvements we'll need.

 

[Pit2015]

Also is very stupid to put lights under a secret plane/weapon isnt it? If you want to hide something you will not put lights on it, most ppl forget that and say oh yeah TR-3B. Is like you light a B2 bomber or a F117 like a christmas tree. Well maybe there is no way to hide the propulsion system but then you will not fly arround worldwide like stupid human animals watching at you and you dont care... all these guys that think is a secret plane/weapon or a TR-3B should ask there self why its showing up so much and long if it is tryed to hide it from public? Maybe there is a TR-3B but first it will be smaller and second maybe they try to recreate what they have observed. There is a rumor that they got a picture just 50 feet away from a cockpit of a ufo now, maybe they will release it this summer and just inform the state that there is something they just cant explain what is most likely controlled by an intelligence, maybe it is a threat to national security maybe not "We cant tell exactly". Maybe we will see more soon, maybe its as always they report it but cant tell much... maybe they know now whats behind this and will release the facts.

For all get ready to update C2C.

If anti gravity is invented or used then alot of company's wasted a lot of money onto obsolete projects and alot will change and alot companys will go bankrupt and others will overtake. There will be much anger that the inventing state not told them earlyer.

 

[Thunderbrd]

If anti gravity is invented or used then alot of company's wasted a lot of money onto obsolete projects and alot will change and alot companys will go bankrupt and others will overtake. There will be much anger that the inventing state not told them earlyer.

I think they have been told. And it's part of why we haven't been. So that current tech investments can at least pay off their investment. There are more taking place but they get a pretty rapid return and they may be building up other elements that are necessary despite what we have - filling in the tech tree between what we stole and what we otherwise were already at so to speak.

I knew a guy who had a furniture recovery and sales company out in Spokane, WA. When Boeing shut down out there he got the contract to go in and get the old desks they had and other office furniture so that they could redistribute it to reseller outlets that deal in that sort of thing. Apparently they found in a locked drawer some blueprint plans, very detailed, very aware of the engineering specifics required, for some craft that were stating measures and capacities of speed and maneuverability that were... a long ways from being anything but fantasy to a modern perspective of expectations. I didn't get specifics much beyond that. In the situation we were in he couldn't share them with me and I'm not going to make claims I can't back up more but to HIM at least, it was definitive proof that where we are and where we THINK we are are seriously 2 very different places technologically speaking.

 

[Pit2015]

"Apparently they found in a locked drawer some blueprint plans, very detailed, very aware of the engineering specifics required, for some craft that were stating measures and capacities of speed and maneuverability that were... a long ways from being anything but fantasy to a modern perspective of expectations."

Top secret stuff forgot in a drawer. Yeah sure. No nation will give such stuff out that easy. Such stuff is mostly really a hoax, dont believe all crap. Alot hard prove is out now and maybe it will be more soon, but alot fakes are out also. Like in the belgium UFO wave a fool builded a model and took a photo to get publicity/attention and cash telling all was fake but the ppl who saw the real large crafts know there was more then this one fool and a small model.

Point is when the pentagon release stuff as real then its like i said: "So what is interesting is that if the military is official releasing alot of new intel, it looks like they also dont know what is behind this at all or they know it now."

And no, no company was told, because then they will not waste cash on any obsolete project like rockets or elon musk starship anymore because it will be obsolete soon when antigrav would be available. So mostly likely its a force and technology that no country on earth has, otherwise this country will rule soon. We will see.

These are the most likely theories i think:

1. Extraterrestrial alien technology / aliens.
2. Its us from the future after a nuclear war or something, time traveling back in time.
3. Interdimensional beings visiting our dimension.
4. Secret technology of a earth country or secret organisation.
5. Secret civilization under the oceans or inner earth.
6. Secret extraterrestrial civilisation from our own solarsystem.
7. Time travel able civilization that lived on earth after or before the humans.
8. Lifeforms that life between the stars in the universe, so these crafts are animals.

Any more theories?

 

[Thunderbrd]

Such stuff is mostly really a hoax, dont believe all crap.

This was just a guy I know shooting the breeze telling me about his personal experience, not anyone trying to make a scene or get attention. I don't put it past him to be personally exaggerating but it didn't sound like it. I'll never know - just relating what I was told directly.

And no, no company was told, because then they will not waste cash on any obsolete project like rockets or elon musk starship anymore because it will be obsolete soon when antigrav would be available.

It's possible they're intending to hold onto it as a secret for decades to come still and there could be assurances that if it comes out early, there's compensation in it for those companies that are in the meantime making it look like they're the ones making real progress.

So mostly likely its a force and technology that no country on earth has, otherwise this country will rule soon

You know there's a Russian Area 51 where they have rumored recovered alien craft as well right? Interesting stuff on that...

Any more theories?

All or at least many of the above, depending on the event.

 

[raxo2222]

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Also your link was broken - it was leading to this forum lol.

 

[Pit2015]

Protip: Build Aetherophasic Engine to remove late game lag once and for all.
Also your link was broken - it was leading to this forum lol.

I improved the performance in the mod already, no one reported end game lag so far. What??? Wich link is broken, link works nice.... at least now.

 

[raxo2222]

I improved the performance in the mod already, no one reported end game lag so far. What??? Wich link is broken, link works nice.... at least now.

You didn't get joke, I guess you don't have Nemesis DLC.
That galactic wonder removes all life in galaxy meaning game has nothing to calculate
Also I see you fixed link in your last post.

 

[Pit2015]

You didn't get joke, I guess you don't have Nemesis DLC.
That galactic wonder removes all life in galaxy meaning game has nothing to calculate
Also I see you fixed link in your last post.

Ah. Yes you dont need Nemesis DLC for my working long game. And you dont need to buy Nemesis DLC to remove all life from the galaxy, you can do it in the console.

Btw :

 

[raxo2222]

Ah. Yes you dont need Nemesis DLC for my working long game. And you dont need to buy Nemesis DLC to remove all life from the galaxy, you can do it in the console.

Btw :

You can eat Milky Way too

 

[Pit2015]

Damn... in india after the strong corona rise, the crematoria can no longer keep up, that should the corona deniers look closely. Time for the humanity to work together and stop it, dont spread it.

Show it to the corona deniers:
"Florida Anti-Masker Records His Regret From Hospital Bed":