C3C PBEM : "Shogun" - Sengoku scenario-based PBEM

[akots]

Playing time - 11 pm GMT - 7am GMT (US Central).

 

[LouLong]

OK, sorry for the delay. I was setting up the Great Armada PBEM.
Now that it is launched I will set up Shogun tonight and either launch it tonight or send the file to the starter (along playing times).

 

[akots]

There are still a few unclear things in the scenario file I got from Loulong. Do we enable Diplo victory condition? It is one of the major PBEM bugs btw.

 

[ironduck]

How can you have diplo victory without UN? Is there a similar wonder in this scenario?

 

[akots]

Yes, there is a specific wonder which acts like UN. In general, this scenario has very many pecularities. Just consider Ronin and Ninja. Also, it is regicide.

 

[LouLong]

I have never actually played with diplomatic victory enabled (and reached) in PBEMs. You say it causes bugs. How so ?
Not knowing of these bugs I would have considered it interesting...

Yamabushi bug : mistake, redid the biq file for starting units and forgot to correct that. Good I asked you to check.

About AI cities I thought it had been decided to give all civs settlers rather than cities. ???

I will change the biq (Yama and level) but for the rests (diplomatic victory and cities for AI) I would like to be sure there is an agreement before.

For the corruption bug I think small (80 X 80) would do the job fine.

 

[akots]

For description and some studies on Diplomatic victory PBEM bug please see this CDZ thread:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2035

 

[LouLong]

I see but the problem was caused by numerous AI. In our case I doubt the AI will survive that long or still be powerful enough.
And about AIs : settlers or cities ?

 

[akots]

Lets just vote. But I hope we all play in any case whatever the outcome of the vote.

1. Diplo victory - disabled. The bug still exists since who and how can participate in the vote is unclear. Though I'm fine even if it is enabled.

2. AI - cities
Human - settlers if difficulty Monarch. If Emperor, it might be unplesant but should still be OK.

 

[rcoutme]

I vote that Monarch level would be best level. Diplo disabled (after all, the warlords never actually VOTED anybody in...) and give the AI cities and the humans settlers.

 

[ironduck]

I've tried ending with diplo once. The game was a stalemate so we decided on it, I guess it's nice in those cases. I don't like the way the diplo victory is set up though, find it confusing.. I'm fine with either though, also for difficulty.

 

[portuga]

I'm fine either way, so I'll abstain

 

[akots]

OK, the game has been somehow started. I hope I did not screw it up. if some weird things are noticed after a few turns (except hordes of barbarians), we can restart.

Difficulty is set to Monarch and this is the play order:
1.Date - akots
2.Mori - rcoutme
3.Uesugi - Portuga
4.Hojo - AI
5.Miyoshi - Loulong
6.Oda - AI
7.Imagawa - Kuningas
8.Takeda - Ironduck

 

[akots]

If I may suggest the following convention to name the files to avoid confusion:
Shogun-001-AK which means turn number with initials of player who just played. For example, turn 134 played by Loulong and received by Kunigas will be named Shogun-134-LO

Turn 1 sent to Mori.

 

[rcoutme]

Game sent on to Portuga

 

[portuga]

-----> LouLong

 

[LouLong]

To Kuningas

 

[Kuningas]

Sent to Ironduck

 

[ironduck]

sent to akots

 

[akots]

Turn 2 sent to Mori-san. Banzaii!