Caesar's salad

[Riflin'Joe]

When you first meet Julius Caesar he greets you with "Care for some salad? I made it myself." I don't get it. Is there some joke, in- or otherwise, or some really out there pop culture reference I'm missing?

 

[*Svart*]

It's a simple joke, JC had nothing to do with caesar salad, it's an american stuff, not even an italian one, nor an ancient roman one.
The salad's creation is generally attributed to restaurateur Caesar Cardini, an Italian-born Mexican.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

It's a lame joke, Caesar Salad is a type of salad here in the US. I don't know what type because I don't eat salad

Lots of those AI greetings are pretty dumb, which was what struck me when I first played this game.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

It's got croutons (or fried bread if you aren't posh) in it.

 

[plasmacannon]

It is made with Romaine lettuce and caesar dressing.

It follows some other lame jokes you'll find in there, like Al Gore inventing the internet.
He mentioned something about that, and he gets the credit, while the scientists, engineers and companies involved got no credit from Firaxis.

You'll find others too.
Don't feel bad, they are usually not important.

 

[Mec AntiKythera]

I don't trust him and never accept his salad. I think he poisons it. Seriously.

 

[Riflin'Joe]

Well yes, that's lame indeed and not the kind of thing I'd know about living in this part of the world

 

[Ataxerxes]

Well yes, that's lame indeed and not the kind of thing I'd know about living in this part of the world

All the leaders have little ridiculous sayings when you meet them. Just ignore them. Remember, you can't trust anything they tell you anyway. The funny pics thread shows Hatty saying "You didn't think we were going for culture, did you?" when that's exactly what she's doing. All of their conversational phrases mean nothing except when they declare war.

 

[Yoshiegg737]

All the leaders have little ridiculous sayings when you meet them. Just ignore them. Remember, you can't trust anything they tell you anyway. The funny pics thread shows Hatty saying "You didn't think we were going for culture, did you?" when that's exactly what she's doing. All of their conversational phrases mean nothing except when they declare war.

But they even say random things while they're ignoring you!

 

[awesome]

well, the game was made by an american company, so a lot of the jokes in it have references to stuff that americans would know about, at least in the english version. none of them are really all that funny, the developers had a pretty dry sense of humor.

 

[s.bernbaum]

I rather like one remark that I have only seen once. After I had wiped out a second or third civ, one of the remaining and rather aggressive leaders started off our "conversation" with "You are giving aggression a bad name!" I about fell out of my chair laughing. One of those rare quite appropriate random comments from the AI.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

Sometimes the comments have use.

For instance if you want to find out what the best unit the AI has and can't scout them yet then keep clicking on their name and see if they say "fear my <unitname>!".

If you see "fear my archer!" and you have swords, then you know they are easy prey

 

[Mec AntiKythera]

I actually liked the AI lines, the first ten times I read them. After that . . .

 

[Danelius90]

haha fear my archer
I tried the "what do you think of..." for some leaders. Mildly amusing (and unnecessary since you can check F4 screen)
"Ragnar is da bomb" was the one that amused me the most
do you really not have caesar salad in NZ?

 

[Reg Pither]

When I first got the game, straight away I found that the silly AI leaders' comments were really jarring with their modern idioms. They ruin the historical atmosphere for me... so much so that I can only assume somebody was deliberately trying to wreck the game and had snuck them in surreptitiously.

I wish there were a way to edit them... any idea, mod fans..?

Of course, I could just lighten up and appreciate the overwhelming amount of good stuff in the game, but let's call that Plan B....

 

[Mec AntiKythera]

Well, there is the historical aspect, but my mastery of German, Spanish, Portugese, Aztecese, et cetra would limit my enjoyment of historically accurate phrases anyway. Or is the TARDIS in the neighborhood?

 

[Danelius90]

I wish there were a way to edit them... any idea, mod fans..?

Diplomacy text can be found somewhere. xmls > text
that might work

 

[A_Hamster]

When I first got the game, straight away I found that the silly AI leaders' comments were really jarring with their modern idioms. They ruin the historical atmosphere for me... so much so that I can only assume somebody was deliberately trying to wreck the game and had snuck them in surreptitiously.

I wish there were a way to edit them... any idea, mod fans..?

Of course, I could just lighten up and appreciate the overwhelming amount of good stuff in the game, but let's call that Plan B....

Away from my computer, so I can't tell which XML file it is, but you can check the modding tutorials for adding leaderheads to find the right file. It's easy to edit once you have the right file. Just make sure you have a text editor that can read and save as XML: Notepad+ should still be a free download.

FfH had a mod where "historical" quotes were provided for the great people, and I believe there is one for standard BtS. Has no one done a historical variant for leaderhead quotes?

Some historical quotes (although not necessarily good first contact ones).

Julius Caesar: "Alea iacta est." "The die is cast." (Said when crossing the Rubicon into Italy, thus openly proclaiming a revolt against the Senate of Rome.)

Augustus Caesar: "Varus, Varus, bring me back my legions!"

Napoleon: "An army marches on its stomach."

Josef Stalin: "And how many divisions does the Pope have?"

Otto von Bismarck: "Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made."

 

[vincentz]

it has already been done. all the civ leaders get actual quotations.
I'll try to find it (and implement it into my mod )

edit : found it : http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=234288

 

[A_Hamster]

it has already been done. all the civ leaders get actual quotations.
I'll try to find it (and implement it into my mod )

edit : found it : http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=234288

Thanks for the link. Personally, the juvenile humor doesn't bother me, even though when I add a leaderhead for my own mod, I try to use an actual quote if available. Still, it's good this mod was made so people who want gravitas in their Civ game can have it.

And a favorite quote of mine, although the gentleman was not a national leader.

"The reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated." - Mark Twain.