CBob04 Achtung Panzer!

I didn't get a chance to play this SG over the weekend. I will play tonight.

I'll check to see where our factories are located. Might rush some in Der Fatherland; depends.

I'll look at waking and upgrading the Fatherland defenders. That will depend on the Mongols and Vikings and such.

I saw that we have an Aircraft Carrier, but I did not see what it was carrying. Load it with Bombers?

On Bombers, don't they have range limit when they rebase?

MA with Babylon and America against Arabs; fine. After those deals are done, then back stab the Vikings.

Looks like the first few turns could be full of prep work and then the last one could be Real Fun For De Fatherland!
 
Yeah, but all my German (polite German, that is) I learned from Hogan's Heroes. :D
 
Think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the number of factories.

That will depend on the Mongols and Vikings and such.
err, what Mongols & Vikings? There's that one island to the northwest, but other than that...

IIRC, there's 2-3 bombers and a fighter (for recon) on the carrier.

AFAIK, there's no limit on the rebase range of bombers.

Backstab the Vikings whenever you feel like wiping them out. Nichts macht?

The panzers do rock, I just didn't do a very good job of concentrating their power, spreading it out to grab more lux.
 
Kibitzer:

Yes there is a limit to the rebase range in C3C. I run into it all the time.
 
Isn't the rebase range 3x the bombers range?
 
Must be a really high range. I usually never play above standard size; must be why I think there's no limit.
 
1280 Gold, +90 gpt
40% tax
60% science
00% luxury
Computers in 4 turns.

City Builds(Italics = max city size)
  1. Berlin (12) vPanzer in 1, grows in 9999.
  2. Niagara Falls (12) factory in 19, grows in 9999.
  3. Leipzig (12) Army in 7, zero growth.
  4. Ta-tu (2) market in 96, starves.
  5. Bergen (1) courthouse in 73, grows in 5.
  6. Memphis (9) airport in 25, starves, 4 free radicals.
  7. Brandenburg (1) aqueduct in 94, grows in 1.
  8. Hamburg (12) airport in 1, zero growth.
  9. Grand River (12) vPanzer in 5, grows in 9999.
  10. Kazan (4) harbor in 28, starves.
  11. Konigsberg (12) vPanzer in 1, zero growth.
  12. Tabriz (10) market in 5, starves.
  13. Frankfurt (12) vPanzer in 1, zero growth.
  14. Allegheny (11) rBomber in 2, grows in 5.
  15. Copenhagen (1) courthouse in 67, grows in 1.
  16. Salzburg (1) factory in 232, grows in 2.
  17. Munich (11) vPanzer in 1, grows in 13.
  18. Dortmund (1) aqueduct in 96, grows in 3.
  19. Ulaanbaatar (1) harbor in 27, grows in 10.
  20. Heidelburg (11) vTransport in 2, grows in 1.
  21. Canaris (1) aqueduct in 100, grows in 7.
  22. New Leipzig (2) courthouse in 75, grows in 2.
  23. Nuremberg (12) rJetFighter in 4, grows in 5.
  24. Hovd (2) harbor in 29, starves.
  25. Cologne (11) vPanzer in 3, grows in 2.
  26. Oil Springs (1) aqueduct in 94, grows in 7.
  27. Mandalgovi (4) market in 96, starves.
  28. Oslo (2) harbor in 4, starves.
  29. Hannover (11) airport in 1, grows in 3.
  30. Abydos (6) granary in 20, starves, one loose cannon.
  31. Stockholm (1) courthouse in 73, grows in 1.
  32. St. Regis (12) factory in 15, zero growth.
  33. Bremen (12) vPanzer in 3, grows in 9999.
  34. Centralia (12) vPanzer in 11, grows in 9999.
  35. Choybalsan (1) harbor in 29, zero growth.
  36. New Berlin (1) harbor in 26, grows in 5.
  37. Stuttgart (10) vPanzer in 3, grows in 9.
  38. Akwesasne (9) bank in 8, grows in 4.
  39. Bonn (9) market in 16, grows in 10.
  40. Edfu (2) harbor in 25, grows in 4.
  41. New Konigsberg (1) harbor in 3, grows in 8.
  42. New Frankfurt (1) granary in 59, grows in 9.
  43. Karakorum (3) factory in 33, starves.
  44. Salamanca (7) bank in 8, grows in 12.
  45. New Hamburg (1) harbor in 26, grows in 1.

City Production
vPanzer [9] (Berlin, Grand River, Konigsberg, Frankfurt, Munich, Cologne, Bremen, Centralia and Stuttgart)
Factory [4] (Niagara Falls, Salzburg, St. Regis and Karakorum)
Army [1] (Leipzig)
Market [4] (Ta-tu, Tabriz, Mandalgovi and Bonn)
Courthouse [4] (Bergen, Copenhagen, New Leipzig and Stockholm)
Airport [3] (Memphis, Hamburg and Hannover)
Aqueduct [4] (Brandenburg, Dortmund, Canaris and Oil Springs)
Harbor [9] (Kazan, Ulaanbaatar, Hovd, Oslo, Choybalsan, New Berlin, Edfu, New Konigsberg and New Hamburg)
rBomber [1] (Allegheny)
vTransport [1] (Heidelburg)
rJetFighter [1] (Nuremburg)
Granary [2] (Abydos and New Frankfurt)
Bank [2] (Akwesasne and Salamanca)


Military
  • 01 Settler
  • 04 Workers
  • 61 Slaves
  • 10 Cavalry
  • 56 Infantry
  • 14 Artillery
  • 03 Frigate
  • 09 Transport
  • 01 Carrier
  • 13 Destroyer
  • 01 Battleship
  • 12 Bombers
  • 01 Jet Fighter
  • 06 Army
  • 34 Panzers
  • 17 Guerillas
  • 07 Cruisers
  • 02 TOW Infantry
    • 089 Allowed units
    • 188 Current units
    • 198 gpt unit support

Compared to the Republican Vikings we are strong.
Compared to the Republican Mongols we are strong.
Compared to the Republican Arabs we are strong.
Compared to the Democratic Egypt we are strong.
Compared to the Democratic Americans we are strong.
Compared to the Democratic Babylonians we are strong.

Luxuries
03 Wine is connected to Berlin.
03 Furs are connected to Berlin
01 Incense is connected to Berlin.
02 Spices are connected to Berlin.
03 Ivory are connected to Berlin.
01 Gems are connected to Berlin.

Resources
01 Aluminum is connected to Berlin.
05 Rubber are connnected to Berlin.
01 Oil is connnected to Berlin.
01 Coal is connnected to Berlin.
02 Saltpeter is connnected to Berlin.
04 Iron are connnected to Berlin.
02 Horses are connnected to Berlin.


International Relations
We are at War with the Mongols (Temujin).
We are at War with Egypt (Cleoparta).
We have an MA with Ragnar Lodbrok of Scandanavia vs. the Mongols.
We have an MA with Hammurabi of Babylon vs. Egypt.
We have an MA with Lincoln of America vs. Egypt.
We have an MA with Abu Bakr of Arabia vs. Egypt.

Wonder Races
  • None

Mid Term Strategy
Eliminate Egypt.
Eliminate Mongols.
Then Vikings.
And Arabs (with MAs)

Short Term Strategy
Grab them by nose and kick in the pants.
Cost to rush the 4 factories(Niagara Falls (304), Salzburg (928), St. Regis (360) and Karakorum (920)), roughly about 2400 gold, so St. Regis and Niagara Falls could be rushed easily, the other two, well, we'll see.
It will the 3 transports W of Salamanca 3 turns to be in position for all 18 units to land one turn.
Clean up pollution.
Muscat Island has 4 tiles.
Aden Island has 2 tiles. Both are Arab cities.

After about an hour of all this getting reaquainted with the game, Hit Enter.

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0 (Preflight) 1450 AD
[IBT]
We lost our supply of Coal, with America. We can trade Rubber for Coal, but I'll wait just a bitm

Game units fly around the screen.

Scandanavia (1 city) and Arabia (15 cities) sign an MA on Egypt.
Scandanavia Dow Egypt.

Mongols want to talk. We don't; go away.

Berlin vPanzer -> vPanzer in 2.
Hamburg airport -> vJetFighter in 3.
Konigsberg vPanzer -> vPanzer in 3.
Frankfurt vPanzer -> vPanzer in 2.
Munich vPanzer -> vPanzer in 3.
Hannover airport -> vBomber in 3.
Centralia vPanzer -> vPanzer in 3.

We lost our supply of Horses (but we still have 2 connected to Berlin on our own).

1 1455 AD

Destroyers destroy and Barbarossa II attacks twice.

Good News


Better News



Stalag Luft III is built.

Check Diplomacy and we are at war with Scandanavia. Too bad.
Barbarossa II parks outside Birka and eyes the vSpear with great fear. It may kill a Tank, but not a Panzer Army.

eCav kills a Beserk.

Build an airfield next to Memphis (pesky Babylonians block our one rail!)

Get units ready to airlift.
Send across 3 Panzers and a Guerilla.
Rebase Bombers to Canaris, aiming for Thebes next turn.
We don't have any settlers heading overseas anytime soon. Change Abydos from Granary to Settler, due in 27 and rush for 108 gold. We will get an Egyptian settler, true, but it will claim the Coal near Thebes. This will also drop Abdydos from size 5 to 3, reducing its flip chance.
Clean up one pollution near Centralia (no new rails this turn).
[IBT]
Memphis starves.
Grand River pollutes.

Allegheny rBomber -> rBomber in 3.
Heidelburg vTransport -> vTransport in 3.
Olso harbor -> worker in 10.
Abydos settler -> granary in 30.
New Konigsberg harbor -> barracks in 20.

2 1460 AD

Battle of Thebes (10), Captial of Egypt
Bombing Thebes reveals 3 vRifles, 1 vGuerilla and 1 rRifle. We knock off one popultaion and destroy the Coal Plant.
Horsa I kills an rRifle.
Horsa I (16/17) kills another rRifle.
Barbarossa I (14/17) kills a vRifle 3/4.
Barbarossa I (12/17) kills another vRifle 3/4.
Horsa I (12/17) swats down a 2/4 vRifle.
We send a 3/5 ePanzer to destroy a 2/4 Guerila. It does, but does not promote.

Good News


We keep Thebes and gain 6 Artillery and 3 slaves. We start training a slave while we wait for the resistors to die.

We build a Coal Colony, so we are back in the Railroad business.

Battle of Birka (2) Last Viking Capital
Our Destroyers redline both vSpears in Birka.
Barbarossa II (14/17) defies the odds and the specter of certain death at the hands of the barely alive Spearmen and attacks twice.

Good News


Better News


Babarossa II, still at 14/17, will load into the Transport next turn.

Still have an Infantry on AutoMOve but I can't find him.

Bombers disconnect Egypt from their Iron near Elephantine.
Try to bomb the Saltpeter on the mountain near Heliopolis but find Arabs there and abort the attack.
We airlift 4 vInfantry to near Memphis.
Arab Invasion force stops outside Arab waters.

Clean up pollution.
[IBT]
Babylon wants to talk. They want to swap Free Artistry for Atomic Theory. Not now, go paint your wagon.

An Egyptian convoy of 4 sails leaves El-Amarna heading south along the coast; 3 Frigates and 1 Galleon.

Resistance in Thebes is over, so now the city doesn't produce anything. All of Thebes becomes taxmen/women/creatures.
Pollution at Salamanca.
Berlin vPanzer -> vPanzer in 2.
Memphis loses a resister.
Frankfurt vPanzer -> vPanzer in 2.
Cologne vPanzer -> vPanzer in 3.
Bremen vPanzer -> vPanzer in 5.
Stuttgart vPanzer -> vPanzer in 4.

3 1465 AD

Science drops to 50%, +71 gpt, Computers in 1.
New Frankfurt now has two rails lines leading into Egypt.

Settler is in positon to build inside Egypt, giving us easy access to Elephantine, Asyut and El-Amarna.

Talk to Abu-Bakr,
Spoiler :




tell him to eat worms and die.

Talk to Hammurabi,
Spoiler :




he'll join the Arab war for Refining. Better than Rubber, his first request. We agree.

Abe wants some gold to kick the Arabs;
Spoiler :




we offer 3gpt and he's ready to fight.

We land units next to the Arab cities of Anjar, Basra and Najran.

Battle of Zariqum (5) Arab
ePanzer decimates a redlined vRifle.
ePanzer guts a redlined vGuerilla.

Good News


And we claim one Arab Saltpeter. Our Bombers disconnect their only other Saltpeter.
We also disconnect their Gems.

Battle of Byblos (11) Arab
ePanzer fillets a wounded vGuerilla.
ePanzer castrates a redlined vCavalry.

Good News


We raze the city, since we can't use it to get to Khurasan further down the coast.

We airlift nine units towards Egypt.

Tried to bomb the Egyptian Saltpeter, but now the Americans are on that mountain. Bombed the Aluminum instead.
[IBT]
And here is where I end my turns. They've been fun, but have taken me way too long to play.
 
I've just time to post images, but not add much more. Grandma is already in bed and asleep and the lights are still on.

We did not mobilize; I did not rush any factories. We took no losses in our attacks.

Basra Area



Khurasan Area


Lisht Area


Thebes Area


Zariqum Area
 
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Lots of targets for the next player.
 
Nicely done. :salute:

haven't looked at the save yet, but...

side bet - This is over before it gets back to me. ;)
 
One thing I forgot:

There is an Infantry on AutoMove, but I don't know where. I could not find him to undo the AutoMove. I wasn't ready for it, so everytime it moved it caught me by surprise and I didn't really focus on the map at the time. I wasn't even sure which continent it was on. Sorry.
 
We STILL have lots of forests in our core. I'm going to chop those ASAP.
MM Leipzig to 65 spt from 61 spt (both figures pre-waste)
MM Memphis for growth - now in 2 instead of 4.
Switch Heidelburg to Panzer. I don't think we need more Transports.
Change Abydos to Cruise Missile. By time a Granary comes in, that city will be size 12!
MM Stuttgart for 3-turn Panzers (used to be 4 turns).

IT:

Babs get a Leader by killing an Arab Cav atop a volcano.
Computers->Miniaturization
Thebes deposes us. Good thing all our troops are outside the city!
Resistance in Memphis ends.
Hamburg: Jet Fighters
Konigsberg: Panzers
Munich: Panzers
Nuremberg: Jet Fighters
Hannover: Bombers
Pollution strikes Bremen :(
Centralia: Panzers

Turn 1 (1470 AD):

Thebes: Redline the new Rifles with arty and take 'em with a single ePanzer. No leader, though.
Sink an Egyptian Frigate with a Bomber.
Kufah: Hengest kills three Rifles and a Guerilla, taking the city!
Anjar: Kill three Rifles and one Guerilla. We get an eInf and take no losses. City is ours.
Basra: Lose two Inf, kill three Rifles and one Guerilla to take the city.
Najra: Lose one Inf before we take the city.
Take El-Amarna, Asyut, and Elephantine with Panzer forces. No losses. New Munich is founded with the combat settler.

IT:

An Egyptian Cav comes out of the fog and captures New Munich :(
Egypt and America sign peace; America declares on us.
Berlin: Panzers
Frankfurt: Panzers
Allegheny: Bombers
Heidelburg: Panzers
Resistance at Zariqum ends.

Turn 2 (1475 AD):

Lose a Panzer while retaking New Munich. Strange that Egypt captured it and we destroyed it.
Lose an ePanzer taking Khurusan.
Take Heliopolis. The old eCav even gets a chance in this one, killing a yellowlined cav to take the city!
Barbarossa II takes Lisht easily.

IT:

Two cavs suicide vs. Barbarossa II in Lisht.
Grand River: Panzers
Heliopolis riots. That's what we get for quelling resisters :)
Najran deposes. There goes our coal...
Cologne: Panzers
Lisht riots.
Stuttgart: Panzers

Turn 3 (1480 AD):

Take Hieraconpolis.
Take Baghdad.
Take San Francisco.
Take Buto.

IT:

Berlin: Panzers
Leipzig: Armies
Hamburg: Jet Fighter -> Panzer
Konigsberg: Panzers
Frankfurt: Panzers
Munich: Panzers
Hannover: Bombers
Abydos deposes us.
Centralia: Panzers

Turn 4 (1485 AD):

Retake Abydos. Egypt is gone!
Destroy Mansura (new Arab city near Zariqum).

IT:

Arabs (re) capture a few slaves.
Salamanca: Bank -> Panzer
Memphis: Airport -> Cruise Missile
Allegheny: Bomber -> Panzer
Heidelburg: Panzers
Disease in Stockholm.
Bremen: Panzers
Akwesasne: Bank -> Panzer

Turn 5 (1490 AD):

Take New York.
Take Washington.
Take Seattle.

IT:

Arabia captures a few more slaves.
Berlin: Panzers
New York riots.
Frankfurt: Panzers
Nuremberg: Bomber -> Panzer
Cologne: Panzers
Stuttgart: Panzers

Turn 6 (1495 AD):

Take Miami.
Take Chicago.
Take Mecca.
Take Medina.
Take Atlanta. America is gone.
Take Fustat. We get a Leader in the course of the battle!
...and with the help of that new Army, take Damascus.
Arabia has no more cities on the other continent, so we'll need to set for some island-hopping.
MM cities; switch a couple of builds to Carriers.

IT:

Niagara Falls: Factory -> Panzer
Hamburg: Panzers
Konigsberg: Panzers
Hannover: Bomber -> Panzer
St. Regis: Factory -> Panzer
Bremen: Settler -> Settler
Centralia: Panzers

Turn 7 (1500 AD):

Move a bunch of troops around. I'm starting to set up a blockade across the continent in former Arabian lands - it'll slow down the Babylonian settling efforts that will be popping up soon.

I've made screenshots of the invasion forces I've set up and the Carrier task force. They'll take another 3-4 turns to move into position, then we can complete our conquest of the Arabs.

When do we want to declare on the Babs?
 

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Two down, two to go! :goodjob:
When do we want to declare on the Babs?
If we have our own source of coal, right now, or as soon as we get units to the border. No need to wait.

I would save the Bab city on our continent until the last. That might help avoid looking for a settler in a boat.

It could be a race to see who will survive longer; Arabia or Babylon.

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Hmm...I'd actually wait a couple of turns. The Babs have a lot of units running around between our cities, and it would be prudent to have extermination squads in place to prevent the loss of any cities. Besides, that will give us time to land our forces on the little islands in the south seas.
 
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