China to rule under the waves.

[Timsup2nothin]

So they just need 200,000,000 body suits and their army could be any where in the world in hours?

Hmmmm....rocket sub transports...entire Chinese divisions beaching in California...

Holy cow! Elect a republican! Triple defense spending! We have a credible threat here!!!!!

 

[bhsup]

I have been saying on this forum for years and years that they're coming and nobody listens. 2050 or roundabouts, they'll make their move. We need to be prepared.

Well, I have always targeted 2050 as the period when the ChiComs finally reveal their world plan and attack America, so that's outside of your 5 year window. Therefore, I am going to go with option 2.

I thank God I'll probably be dead before 2050. It would probably take at least that long to mandate such a system. Plus, I'll miss the inevitable PRC invasion of America.

I've been saying (feel free to search my 10 year post history) that the ChiComs are going to invade around 2050!!! That's right in your zone, so I'll assume that touches off the catastrophe that devastates us.

You'll be singing a different tune in 2050 when the ChiComs cross and invade Hawaii, Alaska, and the Pacific coast.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I have been saying on this forum for years and years that they're coming and nobody listens. 2050 or roundabouts, they'll make their move. We need to be prepared.

You should probably add this to the list of warnings no one is listening to.

 

[AdamCrock]

I thought that it was the British that are coming ... bringing cakes of doom and sparkles of destruction !

Anyway this might work ! It only needs a really good fuel - something that would give it that great "kick" and pressure high enough to push aside all this water I think that the quote "They say it can't be done but did it all the same" fits in here - only I can't remember where I've heard it

 

[Timsup2nothin]

One if by land, two if by sea, if they are coming by rocket powered submarine just jump from the tower.

 

[Cutlass]

And those primitive Easterners could never possibly accomplish something we haven't done already, now could they?

You are out of line. Nothing I said could possibly be construed to mean that.

 

[Cutlass]

I don't know, the US is pretty behind in some technologies like anti-ship missiles. Still using Harpoons when even China has stuff like the Moskits.

That's assuming that a Moskit is actually more likely to score a hit than a Harpoon.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

You are out of line. Nothing I said could possibly be construed to mean that.

"If it were possible, nations more advanced than China and Russia would have been all over it decades ago."

You literally said that we have done all possible advanced things of which present human technology is capable, and that it's impossible for those "less advanced" nations to do something that we haven't done already.

Your chauvinist attitude is the one that is out of line.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

That's assuming that a Moskit is actually more likely to score a hit than a Harpoon.

With that kind of speed, it sounds like a winning bet.

 

[Cutlass]

"If it were possible, nations more advanced than China and Russia would have been all over it decades ago."

You literally said that we have done all possible advanced things of which present human technology is capable, and that it's impossible for those "less advanced" nations to do something that we haven't done already.

Your chauvinist attitude is the one that is out of line.

Wrong. I'm pointing out that some countries have less advanced tech bases than others. It has nothing to do with race. You are being a jackass.

 

[Cutlass]

With that kind of speed, it sounds like a winning bet.

Only if it hits.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Why would they fire only one? Also, you're really underestimating the technology of potential US rivals.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Wrong. I'm pointing out that some countries have less advanced tech bases than others. It has nothing to do with race. You are being a jackass.

It does by incident. It's not the issue of tech base or whatever, it's that you don't think the "less developed" peoples are capable of doing something we haven't. It's an assumption with centuries' history of patronizing Orientalism behind it.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I don't know, the US is pretty behind in some technologies like anti-ship missiles. Still using Harpoons when even China has stuff like the Moskits.

The cold war maybe gives me a warped perspective, because it was an 'arms race' measured in overkill factors...which is demonstrably ridiculous. <---preliminary acknowledgement

Speed of an anti-ship missile is critical, to a point. Once it is 'fast enough', making a missile twice as fast, or three times as fast, or a hundred times as fast, becomes an exercise in technology rather than weaponscrafting. There are far more valuable aspects of technology to pursue than making a faster missile to replace missiles that are fast enough.

Which brings us to Harpoons vs Moskits. These missiles face a vastly different measure of 'fast enough', because fast enough is defined by the missile defense systems of whatever you shoot them at. While moskits are reportedly three times faster than harpoons, so they can be called a 'generation ahead', they are not up against the harpoon, but against missile defense systems...which is an area where US technology is ahead.

Who is furthest ahead in which areas, and how the interaction of those various areas would interact in actual combat can really only be tested one way. I'll pass, because I'm really just not that interested in knowing. Much like I wasn't interested in whether the US's ability to end all life on the planet fifty times over was actually superior to the USSR's ability to end all life 'only' thirty-six times over.

 

[Colonel]

This is a joke. Just like the Chinese "stealth" fighter a few years back when China used footage from Top Gun to show off their fighter on Chinese National News.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

This is a joke. Just like the Chinese "stealth" fighter a few years back when China used footage from Top Gun to show off their fighter on Chinese National News.

Why yes in fact you are. You should open all your broadcasts with that.

 

[Farm Boy]

It does by incident. It's not the issue of tech base or whatever, it's that you don't think the "less developed" peoples are capable of doing something we haven't. It's an assumption with centuries' history of patronizing Orientalism behind it.

Well, next time a non-heteronormative, non-male, or non-caucasian person, or society associated with such, or could be associated with such, claims an unlikely leap forward in military technology in a format and field that lends itself towards braggadocio and nationalistic pride(can I insinuate that the PRC's military might have nationalistic tendencies, or is that out of line? Legit question there, actually.) we'll have to make sure to run it through the super duper really should believe it by default lest we not be considered chauvinist pigs for being skeptical. I mean, it'll be difficult for me to pull my fingers away from the edges of my eyes and all, but I think I should be able to manage it. Everyone else should catch up soon.

 

[bhavv]

Wrong. I'm pointing out that some countries have less advanced tech bases than others. It has nothing to do with race. You are being a British left winger.

Fix'd

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Well, next time a non-heteronormative, non-male, or non-caucasian person, or society associated with such, or could be associated with such, claims an unlikely leap forward in military technology in a format and field that lends itself towards braggadocio and nationalistic pride(can I insinuate that the PRC's military might have nationalistic tendencies, or is that out of line? Legit question there, actually.) we'll have to make sure to run it through the super duper really should believe it by default lest we not be considered chauvinist pigs for being skeptical. I mean, it'll be difficult for me to pull my fingers away from the edges of my eyes and all, but I think I should be able to manage it. Everyone else should catch up soon.

It both tickles and infuriates me that you feel the need to degenerate into a generic "angry old man" rant in order to protest something you disagree with. You can't just be angry that you got asked to consider for a split second what your words mean before you say them, you have to remind us that you also disapprove of gender identity and racial identity politics as well. It literally angers you more that someone pointed them out as existing and identified the problems with that, than that the thing they pointed out actually exists. Says a lot about you.

To answer your question: yes, you should consider what the implications of your statements are before you make them. Who you are and what you're talking about dictates in large part what the words you're saying mean. It's called context. In this case, I allege that Cutlass, who has demonstrated in the past the willingness to believe in the Western-created Oriental mythos of the Asian Hive Mind and Eastern Despotism, here manifests that racist perception in the idea that these lesser-developed peoples could never EVER [his words are "not possible" as I quoted above] accomplish something that we advanced Westerners haven't already. We're the best and most advanced, you know, we're constantly at the front of human civilization, accomplishing all possible things as soon as they become technically feasible.

Don't get mad at me for pointing it out: he said it, not me.

And since you're so worried about what your white American cishet opinion means: yes, it does identify you as a greatly privileged person to be able to be so wholly ignorant of how words and actions hurt other people and perpetuate their oppression. There's nothing that hurts white straight American mens' feelings, because they run the world. Except being compared with someone who is not a white straight American male: gay, girly, thuggish (today's code word for Black) or ghetto, or "un-uhMERRikin."

 

[bhavv]