Chinese SG, world map CSP, OPEN GAME

[Arizona_Steve]

...goes and sits in the corner

Wasn't aware I left anything on GOTO... honest sir...

 

[ChrTh]

Originally posted by Arizona_Steve
...goes and sits in the corner

Wasn't aware I left anything on GOTO... honest sir...

Arizona_Steve, there's only one course of action for you: :suicide:
Please try to not leave a mess

 

[LKendter]

Originally posted by Arizona_Steve
...goes and sits in the corner

Wasn't aware I left anything on GOTO... honest sir...

Well we may have to let you out of a corner soon -
The world is still a war
+egypt - nasty SoD coming my way
-Russian
-Babylon (dead)
-Rome

 

[LKendter]

Preturn - The Insanity continues

Our paper war with England ends - it just cost us world map - anything to help with war weariness. Hurry two temples near Egypt - don't want any culture flips. Other trading results - just a few bucks for wm - to many enemies and trade embargoes.

Change several tanks to mech infantry - we are hurting to city occupation troops.

Egypt getting on my nerves - settle another city in former India lands.

Babylon and Russia ally vs. Iroqoius - Now that will really matter

Kras has Seti - so start University - let us gain maximum out of it.

1786 AD - The offensive continues -
Lahore is RAZED - to close to the capital - extreme flip risk
New Yangchow is formed - close to where Lahore WAS.
We capture an EMPTY Zariqum - China has a presence in Africa.
What in the world - ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGG - Left over goto orders - I moved planning for the artillery to be 2 away from Bombay.

Leader fishing vs. Russia = nothing.
Trading - a few bucks for WM, get a little more in luxuries trades going.
Zulu / Rome trade embargo vs. us.
OH NO! - Japan lands a stack of Rifleman.

1788 AD - We get lucky - India couldn't get enough to attack a cavalry army - keep the artillery.
Try leader fishing again - this vs. a stack of Japan Rifleman / Samurai - I think Arizona_Steve used up all of the leaders.
Continue down the penisulla - Dacca is captured.
This opens up the assualt on New Madras - we capture it - sink a ship in port.
Beijing 2 is formed.
Diplomatic spying proves Babylon has just one city left.
Trading - more deals with England for luxuries, minor wm trading.
First spy attempt with Egypt fails - We need to watch Egypt / Zulu for space race -
GACK - I started another war.
Egypt loses Buhen - auto-razed.
Egypt loses El-Ashmunein - auto-razed, Australia is just Chinesse now - plus 2 free workers.
Peace with Rome - cost, wm.
Peace between Babylon and Aztecs.
Pentagon complete - time for killer armies now.

1790 AD - That crazy India form Delhi - next to our tanks - auto-razed.
We take Thess... - And get this great message.

One way to help the war happy problems.
We capture Tanis (egypt) - last of the nonsense cities.
Now to deal with the SoD!
We auto-raze Bubastis (egypt) - can we confuse Egypt about were they attack is coming from?
Our transport sneak paid off - New Lahore (India) is captured.
Edfu (egypt) is captured.
We can only have so many fronts - attempt peace with Russia - we give wm, get 3 workers.
Russia / America trade embargo vs. us.
Rome / India trade embargo vs. us.

Total squares - Domination limit (love the new map stat!) = 5949, still need 3652 tiles.
Land = 1849, coast = 448 we own 38% of the world - on an earth map!

1792 AD - The secondary push vs. India continues - New Bangalore falls.
I am having zero luck for leaders - killed a stack of cavalry, stack of war chariots - but no leaders.
We take Nagoya (Japan) - capture some workers.
New Leipzig is an Enlish city???
Fukushima (Japan) is auto-razed.
Shanghai 2 is formed.
Greek / India trade Embargo vs. us ends.
Zulu / Egypt start a trade Embargo vs. us.
We are supposed to be scare of Egypt?

1794 AD - New Karachia (India) falls - we catch Ironclad and Transport in port.
We raze Bombay (former India Captial) - quite a few workers there - BEFORE razing - total workers gained - 22! We picked up some badly needed artillery pieces.
New Canton replaces it.
Izumo captured - Japan is off of the continent.
We that complete peace with Japan - we get $40 (2 mech infantry upgrades) and trade embargo vs. most of our enemies.
Since we are NOT up to a naval invasion, we can't gain a thing.
Get enough from map trading to upgrdade 3 mech inf.
We still need to upgrade 88 infantry - $1760.
The Egyptian stack of doom leaves the hills.


More to follow

 

[LKendter]

1796AD - We begin picking off the smaller stacks.
The first sSoD (6 mech inf)- China 6, Egypt 0 - 1 leader.

He gets order for a immediate battleship rush in New Bangalore - we are really hurting for ships.

The second sSoD (9 mech inf) - China 9, Egypt 0 - 1 leader.

Instant army - goal a 4 mech inf army.

The third sSod (5 inf) - China 5, Egypt 0.

Get enough money from map trading to upgrade 5 infantry to mech inf.
Japan and India trade Embargo vs. us - It is really getting hard to make any money.

1798AD - Time for the last Egypt SoD (20+ inf) - China 34 (approximate - to many kills to count),

Egypt 1 - 2 leaders - several promotions to elite. I think this battle alone to over 10 minutes -

Just finding enough tanks to attack with, but the offensive begins.

2 instant battleships - someday I want to invade Japan / America :flamedevi

Absurd 5 for 1, but we get gems from the Aztecs - safety factor for war weariness.
Trading maps lets me upgrade 2 infantry.

Peace treaty between France and Greece.
Japan and India ally vs. Germany - Uh right, how will they get to each other?
WAHOOOOOOO - wltcd break out, the gems really helped.

1800 AD - We begin blowing up Madras.
New Hyderabad is captured - we control the SE Asian islands - caught ships in port.
Major R&R for troops.
Greece and England - peace treaty.
Greece and Germany - peace treaty.

1802 AD - We have to kill a lot of units, but Madras is RAZED.
Nanking 2 replaces it.
I chance my short term focus - India must die - I can't take out Egypt without 100% troop commitment

- I need the artillery tied up on the Indian front.
Russian / Rome trade embargo vs. us is over.
Ivory goes away - No chance to try and keep it.
UN vote offered - Yea, I want to LOSE - NOT!


To be continued

 

[ChrTh]

Hey Lee,

I know you're in the middle of the turn, but can you post the save if you're not finishing up shortly? I'd like to take a look at it (even though I can't play it)

 

[donsig]

LKenter - you're turning into a real warmonger!

Two leaders in one turn.

 

[Arizona_Steve]

Waiting for Lee to "let me out of my corner" so that I can have a crack at this again. Waaaaay too much fun!

The leader thing is getting crazy here!

 

[LKendter]

Originally posted by Arizona_Steve
Waiting for Lee to "let me out of my corner" so that I can have a crack at this again. Waaaaay too much fun!

The leader thing is getting crazy here!

You will get out of the corner tomorrow.

I am going to kill Germany next turn.
India dies in two our three.

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1804 AD - The artillery gets in range - begin to bombard Heliopolis.
Ganges (India) falls - during the assualt -

Rush a carrier - this is the only way we can afford the shields to build a fleet.

The city is to large - raze it!
We capture Asyut - Hydrabad (India) falls in 1 turn, it can't flip THAT fast.
Auto-raze Bombay (India) - they are running out of cities.

Our first setback - but not surprising - Our African colony of Zarqium falls to Egypt.
Zulu / America trade Embargo vs. us.
Russia / Iroqoius peace treaty.
Russia / India trade embargo ends.
Iroqoius / India trade Embargo vs. us.
I hate the RnG sometimes - a longbowmen kills a 1 hp tank.
Start research toward modern armor.
Leader city pushes back the Russian culture borders [dance]

1806 AD - Hyderabad (India) is captured - Small enough size to risk keeping.
Tsingato is formed - closing that part of India to all China.
Official end Alliance with Aztecs vs. America - no more benifit.
Heliopolis is down to size 12, more pop guns in range - assualt may begin next turn.
Tanks vs. Mech inf is only safe with very small cities and no buildings left - prefer little hit

points also.

1808 AD - A French SoD cross our borders near Poiters - I have a bad feeling.
We don't need another war right now - our 1/1 colonies are having real war weary problems.
Karachi (Indian) is razed - the size is to large.
New Leipzig is German again.
A good sign - Egypt is conscripting - they are getting desperate.
We blow up Heli... barracks - down to size 6, lose 1 tank and RAZE it.
Xinjian 2 replaces it - no more Egyptians raiding the Middle East.
No way I want a city in point-blank range of the Capital.
We raze Calcutta (India) - I am sick of large unhappy war whineing cities.

I solve the French problem - I ally with them versus Egypt :flamedevi
I hate giving them Aluminum, but we can't afford to fight them right now.
Plus they may drag someone else into the war.
Egypt is the biggest danger of space race, then Zulu - Our next target.

 

[LKendter]

1810 AD - We raze Bangalore (Indian) - almost there.

Summary - War insanity continues - I can't believe the Democracy has held.
:enlighten: I just figured out why France is trying to cross the borders - the last two German cities - I will take care of that problem.
We reclaim - Zariaqum, how long - who knows?
Indians latest attempt are starting Bombay fails.
They have just one city left.
Chendu 2 is formed - we have a permanent source of Gems.
We officially ally With France vs. Germany - a one turn alliance.
GACK - Zulu has Modern Armor - GACK
Who cares - Greece / Germany trade embargo us.
An indian bowman defeats a tank on a mountian
India steals some workers.

1812 AD - New Leipzig (German is captured)
Begin shelling of Thebes
Dortumnd (German is captured)
I get this wonderful message.

I must thank Russia for the help - we need roadnet improvement.

Start filling in India - Hangchow 2 is formed.
I think Egypt has fizzled - still have to get through the mech inf, but only attacks are with bombers.

1814 AD - Tientsin 2 is formed.
We pillage the Egypt oil source [dance]
Wahoo - Thebes bombed to size 6, just 1 hp units - time to attack
It is RAZED, costing us NOTHING.
Tantung 2 formed close it - the Egypt cutlure borders are murder.
Zulu / Japan trade Embargo ends.

1816 AD - Start moving troops toward Memphis to begin blowing that up - Killing mech in size 20+ towns is almost impossible - with regular tanks.

Change of pace - we have upgrade enough mech infantry - Rush temple in New Chinan - There are a ton of squares to claim there.

Macao 2 is formed - The last cities in FORMER India is settled.

1818 AD - Our Bombers beat up Giza to size 6, and many injure units, the assualt begins - we RAZE Giza, to close to other cities. Enough of a gap, and Anyang 2 is formed.
We assualt and take Delhi - India must have a settler on a ship
Make peace, but India is no longer a player.

Rush temple in Pune - it will take awhile to claim the moutains, plus I want to increase the chance of a flip in New Umfolzi.

Summary - Cancel the Aztec gems deal ASAP, we don't need it anymore.

Kill Egypt - but watch it. I broke there back, you should be able to sweep and capture the small northern cities.
Tanks vs. Mech inf in large cities is a loser, need size 6 or less.
You may be able to take some cities, but watch for culture flip traps.
Artillery is ready to blow up the next big city.
Concentrate on rushing temples with a lot of unclaimed space.
Settlers on standby near Beijing, waing for a chance to build a new city.

During these turns I gained almost 400 more squares - and slow temple rushing has begun.
Total % of world owned = 44%. The 2 temples I rushed along will gain 10 squares each.

Next target the Zulu, the most advance civ tech wise.

Up next - WARMONGER, able to deal with tanks vs. Mech infantry, and isn't to aggressive.
I someone plays on Friday, I will grab the game for the weekend.

The play is for Domination on a hugh map! We have a chance, we own Asia, most pacific islands, Australia, Middle east. Rush a temple when possible, preferably one that will gain a lot of squares.


http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/CSG-1818AD.sav

 

[ChrTh]

"Dortumnd (German is captured)"

When I was playing my turns, I couldn't believe that Dortmund was able to hold out culture-wise...I mean, the entire culture of China had to be bearing down on them...did they have Shakespeare Theater or something?

 

[LKendter]

OK, the board is up!

Anybody want to play tonight.

I have NEVER seen a hugh map domination, and I am dying to play some more.

But, I do need one person to play a few...

 

[ChrTh]

Sorry Lee, I would if I could, but I'm picking up mi familia at the train station in 30 minutes, so I'm going to be Civ 3-free all weekend long!


Fortunately, my brother isn't coming too...
:die!:

 

[Arizona_Steve]

Going to take a few more turns at this...

 

[LKendter]

Kill, crush, destroy

Kill, crush, destroy

Kill, crush, destroy

Kill, crush, destroy

Kill, crush, destroy

Kill, crush, destroy


Just don't attack cities > size 7 with Mech Infantry without some softening up.

 

[Arizona_Steve]

Inherited turn:
Geeze! What is this? We're only at war with two civs? TWO civs? What a cop-out.
Find the artillery - heading towards Memphis.

(1) 1820AD
Hieraconpolis is captured.
Kahun is captured. One tank lost.
Pi-Ramesses is captured. Our nearly fully healthy tank army loses to a conscript mech infantry - not a scratch on the mech infantry
War weariness finally gets us. Many cities in disorder, lots of WLTK days end.

(2) 1822AD
Peace treaty is signed with America. Lincoln hands over his entire treasury of 29 gold.
A nicely centralized stack of artillery bombards defenders in both Byblos and Memphis into the red. Not surprising to see that Egypt is communist when one sees the number of conscripts in Memphis. Memphis is down to population 10, and only defended by infantry (all in the red).
Memphis is burned to the ground by elite tanks, the last one giving us a great leader - Quinlong. I pick up a settler from outside Beijing to form a new city there.
Buhen is captured from Egypt by a tank army.
Athribis is captured by our tanks. We also get an extra artillery to play around with. Woohoo!
Shuruppak is captured at the cost of one tank.
Two Egyptian workers are begging to be captured. Two more slaves for us (as if we don't have enough workers).
Move what must seem like hundreds of workers outside Chinan and fortify. There isn't that much need for hundreds of workers right now.
Toulouse is now Chinese. We lose one tank taking it.
We lose three tanks in the Egyptian counter-attack. They're stupid enough to attack across rivers, but get lucky with the dice rolls nonetheless.

(3) 1824AD
Byblos is captured my a tank army after two mech infantry are bombarded down to 1 hit point each with artillery. Four bombers are destroyed.
SteveWasHere founded where Memphis once stood. Temple ordered.
El-armarna joins the increasingly long list of Egyptian cities that are becoming Chinese.
Quinlong gets to a city and forms another army.
Greece and Russia end their trade embargo against us.
Egypt captures Zariqum. No worries, it'll be ours again next turn.
Egypt and France sign a peace treaty.

(4) 1826AD
I decide against UN elections.
Zariqum is captured. One conscript mech infantry destroys TWO of our elite tanks before being destroyed by a third
Buto is captured after artillery bombardment. One tank lost.
Attack crews lined up outside Busiris and Alexandria.
Japan and Greece sign a peace treaty.
One tank lost in Egyptian counter-attack.

(5) 1828AD
Alexandria bombed down to population 8 and no more than 2 hit points on each defender. It's subsequently razed and a settler is moved over from Beijing to replace it.

Busiris is razed. Another settler brought over from Beijing and SteveWasHereAlso is founded.

Notes:
Task forces outside Elephantine and Mendes. There's a ton of artillery under the mech infantry army East of Buto and a good number of bombers and fighters in SteveWasHere.
There is a settler under the mech infantry as shown in the picture above.

File: Chinese Succession Game - 1828AD

 

[LKendter]

Glad I took one last look before going to bed

I am at it again - playing off and on over the weekend.

I am not flying home this weekend, so plenty of time to kill.
This will do the job quite well.

 

[LKendter]

I did kill Egypt last night - even if I did stay up way to late to do so.


@Arizona_Steve
Do you think you want a few turns?

If so I will post the save.

I didn't catch when , but we are at war with Japan now, so invasion of the Japanesse homeland is to begin...

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Preturn - My comment about break Egypt's back was right.
I can't believe how many cities fell in 5 turns Arizona_Steve
233 squares in just 5 turns [dance]
Some of the temples rushes will start taking effect soon.

We have enough cash, so rush temple in New Ningpo. There are still a lot of squares to claim on those islands.
Trading world map gives enough cash for a cheaper rush - Nineveh - I hope to get a hugh block of city border joining from it.
I wake our workers back up - I won't be happy until all of China is railed - even if it does add a lot of time to the turns

I can tell it is a hugh map, it takes 5+ minutes to optimize cities, add taxman, stunt colony growth, switch a couple of production orders, etc. Time to hit enter.

Rome / Zululand trade Embargo ends.

1830 AD - Elephatine will survive a turn - Our air force completely misses
LeeVille is formed.
Can't get the typical cash rush 1 turn before the next tech
Declare war on India - they build a city right next to US
India / America trade embargo us
Well my first screw up!
India infantry kills our tank!
India marines destroy New Ninpgo.
Researching space flight? Should I abandon research?

 

[LKendter]

1832 AD - I was right, India best defense was a leader

Then I get the message I have wanted for awhile [dance]

Hmmm...
I have now killed Persia, Babylon, Germany, India - in a world map game!
We get enough cash from India to rush a temple in SteveWasHereAlso - Before attacking the Zulu, we need 100% border lock - can't have modern armor wandering in our rear.
Assualt begins on Elephatine - our air did the job.
Wear a tank army down to almost nothing
We capture Elephatine with NO losses except for a lot of hit points.
Lisht / Mendes are on a hill
Size 6 pithom cost us 2 tanks for nothing.
America / Russia trade embargo ends.

How did I miss war with Japan starting

1834 AD - Scratch 1 Japan ironclad.
Our tank armies continue to earn there worth, and capture Pithom.
New Ningpol is formed - this time in Australia to claim a lot more coast squares.
We almost lose a full strength army vs. 1 hp mech in Mendes - I knew that was going to be a difficult town - but our next tank hits first shot, other mech dies - the RnG is really wierd sometimes. Capture 2 guns that Shell Avaris.
America has nuke power.
Rush temples in Babylon and Ashur - I want to squeeze the Zulu Spice colony out of existence.
Rush temple in New Intombe - ton of coastal squares to claim.
Zulu / Egypt trade embargo ends - these have been murder trying to raise cash.

1836 AD - Capture Listh (egypt) along with more artillery - you can never have enough guns.
Rush temple in Mendes - need to start culture locking the Zulu border.
I find a weak Egypt city - Our modern armour goes elite killing a spearman to take El-Ashmunein.

 

[Arizona_Steve]

Sure Lee, I'm up for more kill... crush... destroy

I can play at anytime this weekend, so if you want to take it today, I can play tomorrow, or vice versa. Let me know what's easier for you.

This game is a total blast! Literally!

Just leave me a civ to kill off