Choices Choices (spot for 2nd city Q)

[FatNoob]

I’m new, but I do know already: the reason this game is fun is because you hafta make choices like this one, but here goes my set up…

I’m Napoleon (1/2 wonders, so immediately getting that marble in my first 9 squares is a super bonus; Oracle and free tech is 1/4th). So do I settle where I am now, or move 1 square North to include the piggies and the wine in my (eventual) fat square.

If you need more info, lemme know… otherwise… ideas?

(also, im being dense, how do I get the image in the post itself? certainly i dont hafta go the url route? the WYSIWYG editor told me my image was too big, but I see folks posting screenshots all the time...)

 

[FatNoob]

darnit, (I know this will be done anyway but) could someone move to this strategy (instead of articles)?

sorry

 

[Sisiutil]

It will and should get moved, but I'll respond anyway...

It's a far from ideal city location with all that desert. I'd forgo the piggies. Snagging them requires too much useless desert in the fat cross, and that tile will be under cultural pressure from Moscow--especially if that's Catherine up there to the northwest.

The current location isn't great either--a plains hill, yes, but still too much desert: 4 tiles in the cross.

Now if you move 1 tile east, right on top of the copper, you'll keep the marble, the clams, the wine, and still be on the coast with a good amount of forest for chopping. You forgo the extra hammers from the copper, but mining the plains hill will make up for that. You have two desert tiles instead of four. You give up the oasis, but it can't be improved anyway.

Still, I'd like to see if there are other seafood resources off the eastern coast, and what's to the south, before making a final decision. Though it looks like the English are already south of you. But if your main goal is the marble, I'd say on top of the copper is the best bet.

As for screenshots, try reducing the size of your image, and use the Insert Image button to insert the URL to it.

 

[Thrar]

One north on the plains. It has 3 desert tiles, true, but also 5 resources, which is very good. Those 3 missing tiles only matter once you'd want to use them, and it'll take long until the city gets that big.
It's Peter, as you can see in the lower right corner, and even if you don't get the sheep for a while, there are still other good tiles - the high food clams, a self-supporting production tile (copper), the oasis, and once you've grown a bit, the marble and wine (with monarchy).
Very good site, imo, although not great at anything, but good at many things.

Don't get confused with the wonder production bonuses, they're not as great as you seem to think. For the appropriate resource you get +100% hammers, for being industrious it's +50%. For a forge another +25%, organized religion +25%, and so on. Those are added to each other, not multiplied! So, given the marble and IND, you'd be at +150%, or 2,5 times the base production, or 40% of the base cost.

 

[Zombie69]

The image is only slightly larger on my screen than my avatar, so i can't see anything. Clicking on it yeilds no result. Also, you didn't select the option that shows resources, so i wouldn't be able to tell things apart anyway (i never play without it).

 

[DaveMcW]

Clicking on it yeilds no result..

Try enabling javascript.

 

[Zombie69]

Isn't it enabled by default in IE? I've had problems since i re-installed Windows and consequently went back to IE 5, maybe this old version is just not compatible.

 

[Cam_H]

I'm with Thar and the A.I. on this one too ... in terms of cultural pressure you have Peter's capital on one site, and Frederick's creative nation on the other, so a half-way spot is probably going to minimise the pressure overall.

No escort for your Settler or Worker? I see a Warrior parked on a hill, but I'd look at addressing defence soon, as Peter should swoop on that city if the A.I. was on the ball.

I like the idea of maximising your resources in the fat cross, and the computer has picked out the optimum spot imho. No fresh water, no excess of forests for chopping (you'll get two), some desert, but otherwise a super location.