ChristosIOT I

[christos200]

From Jedi
To Dominion:

We thank you, but we must decline your offer. We already have a secret base. However, we still thank you for your kind offer.

From USA
To Dominion:

War or peace? Chose.

 

[Ailedhoo]

From Jedi
To Dominion:

We thank you, but we must decline your offer. We already have a secret base. However, we still thank you for your kind offer.

A second base would aid you, especilly one designed to stop the 'Mericans from waring...

From USA
To Dominion:

War or peace? Chose.

You want war. I see it. Your aggression is overblown. We wanted ONE province in the Caribean and you threaten to commit the genozide of London plus Paris?! Are you in league with the drones?!

Although I am willing to divert the fleet to take Denmark instead I cannot allow your warmongering actions to go with positive reward. Hence I am going to ask Quebec: would you like to have 2 snipers, 6 squads and 4 navies to carry them for a year to claim a province in the Caribean? Yes/no?

The USA should look in the mirrow for warmongers. We want peace. You are the one who dares to threaten my peoples with nuclear weopons.

I will wait for Quebec to respond before action. If not Cuba then Quebec has the right to claim another province in the Caribean. I ask the RSA if they would reconsider their allaince with the USA and ask Peru if it would reconsider its allaince with the RSA. Cuba will either be a indepedent power, a Quebecan province or a isle of the Order. We can replace Cuba with another Caribean province. We are no intrested in war. The USA on the other hand is and we will wish the Order to condem the USA for its warmongering habits, especilly with threatening populations with atomic weopons.

In the mean time the Dominion will eye Sweden...

 

[christos200]

From Quebec
To Dominion:

To say the truth, we are a bit scared of USA. We shall accept only if you station troops in Quebec.

From USA
To Dominion:

It is war then.

From Peru
To Dominion:

We will follow our allies, the RSA.

 

[Ailedhoo]

From Quebec
To Dominion:

To say the truth, we are a bit scared of USA. We shall accept only if you station troops in Quebec.

From USA
To Dominion:

It is war then.

From Peru
To Dominion:

We will follow our allies, the RSA.

By God sake what is running the USA?!

OOC: Serious Christos: your acting irrational! I was making suggestions and your NPCs repond war?! We have even let to do diplomacy with the RSA! Your taking it out of the hands of the players. I suggest you end your powergaming or I will summon Bird to observe!

Edit: I have contacted Bird. Except observation of the game.

 

[christos200]

OOC: As I have told you again and again, USA will not accept the takeover of an American province. It is not so irrational. It is the Monroe Doctrine. Since you insist on not giving up your claims, USA declared war. Had you decided to drop your claims, they would have not declared war. Or if you paid them for the province. If you want the province, you will have to fight for it.

 

[christos200]

I suggest you end your powergaming or I will summon Bird to observe!

6. The GM is supreme. He reserves the right to change game rules, ignore or modify orders, impose restrictions on players, disband player nations, and so on.

 

[Ailedhoo]

OOC: As I have told you again and again, USA will not accept the takeover of an American province. It is not so irrational. It is the Monroe Doctrine. Since you insist on not giving up your claims, USA declared war. Had you decided to drop your claims, they would have not declared war. Or if you paid them for the province. If you want the province, you will have to fight for it.

OOC: The Monro Doctrine continued to exist in a post-drone world? I had not even changed my orders. I am sorry Christos but those areas are grey in the map and unclaimed. I even stated Quebec, a American province, offer to have it. You instead make your NPCs like you in games. Your warmongering playstyle makes not good games Chris. I have again summoned Bird on this matter. Also your playstyle would made the Cuban Missile Crisis go nuclear. Seriously: it is a provinec that is neutral. Your disrupting the flow of your own game.

6. The GM is supreme. He reserves the right to change game rules, ignore or modify orders, impose restrictions on players, disband player nations, and so on.

...and Bird is a mod. There was a thing over this. I suggest you observe. Your dogpiling me.

 

[christos200]

OOC: The problem is what you claim. There are SOI's. USA wants to keep European states out of America. Also war does not mean that they will 100% use nukes. They may not use nukes. Those were the options given by you:

Cuba will either be a indepedent power, a Quebecan province or a isle of the Order.

None is accepted by USA. You should either pay them for expanding in the Americas, leave or force your claims on USA. You could have told them that you would not claim Cuba, and then claim it at secret. You chose the ''You either accept my offer or war choice''. That is also what USA chose to do. Also calling them imperialists does not help.

And if not everything goes your way, it does not mean that the game is not good.

 

[Ailedhoo]

OOC: Did you read the constitution?

3. The GM cannot encourage players to “dog pile” a player in order to force him out of the game.

I am making a point. You are the GM, not a player. Let the players be irrational, not the NPCs.

 

[caketastydelish]

We must continue to increase our revenue in conjunction with now preparing defenses for an attack.

Fars will purchase one laser cannon, one squad, and two farms.

 

[christos200]

3. The GM cannot encourage players to “dog pile” a player in order to force him out of the game.

When did I encouraged a dog pile or tried to force you out of the game? And you have many NPC allies: Quebec, Angola, Korea, even the Swiss may help you. Also this was started by RSA first, and then it was expnded by NATO to the whole of America.

EDIT: And if I wanted to force you out of the game, I would have not VM'ed you 2 times to join after you stated that you would prefer a new IOT.

 

[Ailedhoo]

When did I encouraged a dog pile or tried to force you out of the game? And you have many NPC allies: Quebec, Angola, Korea, even the Swiss may help you. Also this was started by RSA first, and then it was expnded by NATO to the whole of America.

EDIT: And if I wanted to force you out of the game, I would have not VM'ed you 2 times to join after you stated that you would prefer a new IOT.

OCC. RSA did not start it: they said they did not have the Caribean. You then decided to make the USA a warmonger. What counter argument is it when you clearly interfearing with the affairs of players?

I suggest we let the mod decide of the matter. When Bird comes Bird will judge. If Bird says your acting fair then I will take account. If otherwise...

 

[Double A]

Kazakhstan thinks everyone else is being ridiculous. Infighting when the droids still beep will only undo everything humans have done. Kill the droids, then kill each other. Much simpler that way.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Moderator Action: Having reviewed the thread, maps, stats etc. I think that Christos is behaving appropriately for the game and not overstepping his bounds as the GM. You may proceed.

 

[Daedwartin]

Prussia declares total neutrality in the dispute over the Carib.

We have decided to focus on the continued campaign to defeat the Droids.

We wish to make a Non-aggression pact with Kazakhstan.

Also, what would be a valid Marshall Plan Agreement, and what would my turnly payments be required to be at, as our economy is in need of stimulus.

 

[Mat93]

Also, what would be a valid Marshall Plan Agreement, and what would my turnly payments be required to be at, as our economy is in need of stimulus.

RSA would be willing to help you with this, however to accurately give you values we would need to know how much financial aid you would require, and how long you would like the repayments to last.

@christos: I request that this turn ends no sooner than 48 hours after the end of the diplomatic negotiations between RSA and the Dominion, to allow us to fine tune our orders (I don't plan to do 2 sets of orders exactly right, just roughly beforehand, to allow for possible outcomes).

 

[Ailedhoo]

OOC: in respect of Bird's statement...

IC: Reports suggest that the Dominion is heading to Sweden... the Caribean fleet was a false report. We have tested the USA's humanity. We will not await them in the future battle against the drones. The Dominion will serve as a better represenation of humanity.

Edit: we trust the USA has called off its war plans now?

 

[christos200]

Orders lock in 3 days.

 

[Ailedhoo]

So... is there peace?

 

[christos200]

OOC: I do not know. Ask Mat. USA has no problem with either attacking the Dominion or having peace.