City Name Maps
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Wessel V1
Emperor
I see the balance is much favored towards historical city spots, which I consider to be a good thing. However, I dislike cities being placed in suboptimal spots when I want to rule that area myself. I don't want to raze them and rebuild them every single time (which is why I feel I must reload often when playing 3000BC Japan in regular RFC), so this is an easy and for me acceptable change. But I understand that for the main version of the mod this is not ideal, so I keep it as my own modded version. On the other hand, if there is something that I think could be in the mod then I won't hesitate to post it, or give merijn_v1 a call.
Wessel V1
Emperor
Exactly. I'll go even further than that, it has 3 main advantages:
1. It is on a river. Rivers are of major importance with all the associated buildings and irrigation. There are really few cities not next to a river that should be considered good cities in my opinion.
2. More workable tiles and more food. Both are key factors in Iberia. They can be moved up to a certain level.
3. More resources, although they can be moved.
I have to admit that I am a perfectionist in these things. Playing as France, I razed more than 15 cities (beta 9) and rebuilt what I prefered. Genoa is a hard case, there just isn't one ideal location to catch the coast, river and resources.
Morholt
Prince
I made new settler-maps for Poland and Lithuania. They were sorely needed, especially for Lithuania.
Also Smolensk should be moved to (84,54) (1N,1W), it is currently in a wrong location.
Also Smolensk should be moved to (84,54) (1N,1W), it is currently in a wrong location.
3Miro
Deity
Thanks, I will update the SVN with the new maps, but tomorrow. I can back from my trip today and I am tired and I had some computer issues and while everything is working now, I am very tired.
Here is the corrected French/Burgundian map. Main actions were
- fixed Dijon and Lyon
- replaced Cannes with Frejus
- Fixed Alsace-Lorraine to give priority to Strasbourg, Metz and Nancy
- replaced Chatellrault with Tours
- reorganised Garonne area due to new river path
- fixed Dijon and Lyon
- replaced Cannes with Frejus
- Fixed Alsace-Lorraine to give priority to Strasbourg, Metz and Nancy
- replaced Chatellrault with Tours
- reorganised Garonne area due to new river path
I see it's already been partially adressed.
I looked at the RFCEMaps.py file to check on some of the city names.
One thing I noticed about Burgundy was that Dijon and Lyon only have 1 tile for each city name. No wonder the AI has a hard time there
But besides that I noticed some changes within the German map too.
Speyer was removed in favor of Mannheim? (I think I read about Mannheim being removed)
Soest was removed and a 3rd tile for Paderborn placed?
Madrid does have 4 tiles with the name but the AI avoids building it anyway
(I guess Toledo is too close)
I looked at the RFCEMaps.py file to check on some of the city names.
One thing I noticed about Burgundy was that Dijon and Lyon only have 1 tile for each city name. No wonder the AI has a hard time there
But besides that I noticed some changes within the German map too.
Speyer was removed in favor of Mannheim? (I think I read about Mannheim being removed)
Soest was removed and a 3rd tile for Paderborn placed?
Madrid does have 4 tiles with the name but the AI avoids building it anyway
(I guess Toledo is too close)
I see it's already been partially adressed.
I looked at the RFCEMaps.py file to check on some of the city names.
One thing I noticed about Burgundy was that Dijon and Lyon only have 1 tile for each city name. No wonder the AI has a hard time there
But besides that I noticed some changes within the German map too.
Speyer was removed in favor of Mannheim? (I think I read about Mannheim being removed)
Soest was removed and a 3rd tile for Paderborn placed?
Madrid does have 4 tiles with the name but the AI avoids building it anyway
(I guess Toledo is too close)
The problem with Dijon and Lyon was a cock-up of the most simple variety and for which I take full responsability.
As for the German map, you can check out the city name thread from 2 weeks ago, there was (and still is) a fair amount of debate on those changes. For instance Hamburg should have a coast square IMHO.
3Miro
Deity
I looked at the RFCEMaps.py file to check on some of the city names.
One thing I noticed about Burgundy was that Dijon and Lyon only have 1 tile for each city name. No wonder the AI has a hard time there
Lyon spawns on its own and Dijon is supposed to be the capital. You can make them one tile only, but this would work only if it is the right tile.
Morholt
Prince
Another thing, Poland's spawn should be moved to (65,49) or (64,49) since the Warta river was moved. The current location really does not resemble Poznan at all.
I also posted a proposal in the Beta thread that Isle of Man province should be merged with the Hebrides and Orkney since historically they were governed as a unit (the Kingdom of the Isles).
EDIT: also Marrakesh should be (17,16)
I also posted a proposal in the Beta thread that Isle of Man province should be merged with the Hebrides and Orkney since historically they were governed as a unit (the Kingdom of the Isles).
EDIT: also Marrakesh should be (17,16)
AbsintheRed
Deity
Indeed, ATM many preplaced cities and civ starting locations are wrong
Didn't have time for it before Beta 12, but all these will be moved to be up-to-date with the recent map changes
The ones I'm aware of:
Riga, Smolensk, Minsk and Marrakesh are definitely wrong
I have to check these too, but maybe Augsburg, Salzburg, Prag, Valencia, Kharkov and Palermo?
Starting locations: Kiev, Buda, Poznan
I like that
Will change it for the next version
AbsintheRed
Deity
Don't worry, will do it if you don't have the time for it
3Miro
Deity
I had some time so I got the new SettlersMaps (Poland and Lithuania) and I changed the Polish spawn location to match the city names.
3Miro
Deity
I found the Calais issue. Cities are defined in the beginning of the Barbs.py files, but there is a trick when we check on which ones should spawn when. It used to be the case that all cities would be checked for every turn. I changed that so that the cities are split into several groups and groups are not checked outside their time period. Calais should be moved out of > 880AD group and into the < 900AD group.
AbsintheRed
Deity
Great, thx!
Cool. Will keep that in mind, when I have to move/add indy cities
Michael Vick
#1
I see it's already been partially adressed.
I looked at the RFCEMaps.py file to check on some of the city names.
One thing I noticed about Burgundy was that Dijon and Lyon only have 1 tile for each city name. No wonder the AI has a hard time there
But besides that I noticed some changes within the German map too.
Speyer was removed in favor of Mannheim? (I think I read about Mannheim being removed)
Soest was removed and a 3rd tile for Paderborn placed?
Madrid does have 4 tiles with the name but the AI avoids building it anyway
(I guess Toledo is too close)
I've been absent for awhile, I didn't get to release finalized maps for France and Germany that addressed all of these concerns. They'll be in for the next beta I think?
EDIT: I mean in version 1?
I've been absent for awhile, I didn't get to release finalized maps for France and Germany that addressed all of these concerns. They'll be in for the next beta I think?
EDIT: I mean in version 1?
Welcome back, please take a look at my corrected French/Burgundian map posted above, comments welcomed!
Morholt
Prince
Zena is the name of Genoa in their own variety of Italian (Ligurian) so yes.
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