City Name Maps

[Mardouro]

I’m sorry for the typos like “coruna”, I tried to review every label but I can miss some; the map I sent has Santiago and A Coruna, and Madrid is in a central position, next to Toledo. Download it and see with [crtl + left arrow] view to correct the tilt of the peninsula, that’s how I see it. This was my contribution, with no disrespect to the previous map labelers; of course I though the changes were for the best...

 

[Michael Vick]

It would probably be for the best if we avoided all possible confusion relating to the tilt and just made a new map of Iberia. Since you're a native of Portugal you could help a lot with creating accurate terrain and resources for Portugal. I'm a native of Spain, I think together we would do a thorough job of redesigning the peninsula. Then talk about city names later. In these mods you tend to notice that the civs with the most accuracy and detail are those that had a modder of that nationality.

 

[Michael Vick]

Well, this isn't as hard as I thought it would be. Here is North Africa West of Tunis shifted down for a more accurate coastline. The terrain (Mountains, hills, forests, deserts, etc.) is all almost exactly the same. I didn't redo any terrain myself, it's all just shifted. I'm halfway done with the whole project and the most tedious part was probably having to move all the Atlas mountains in a realistic way.

The resources are all almost exactly the same, the coast is there, the road is there, that is what the Algerian and Moroccan Coasts would look like if this project was implemented.
The Canary Islands, the Balearic Islands, and Madeira have been moved in synchronization with the African coast. Despite this, besides distances from mainland Europe, gameplay is unchanged.

Iberia and the Azores are obviously still in their old spots. There are landmarks with city names just to give you an idea of what is where in Africa. A few other landmarks also show the proposed tiles for Gibraltar, Barcelona, and the Cape of Denia.

Western Provence and Southern Aquitaine will be probably be very slightly altered. The Pyrenees are going to be shifted the South a bit so the Toulouse region is going to be a little larger to the South.

EDIT: I'm going to start a new thread for this.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Morholt, are you still working on the Austrian map or you abandoned that project?
I'm just asking because I wanted to do a few minor changes as well, but if you already started your update I will gladly wait for it

 

[Michael Vick]

Can you post the English, Spanish, Italian, and Arabic City Name Maps? I don't like doing it in the Improved Worldbuilder.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Can you post the English, Spanish, Italian, and Arabic City Name Maps? I don't like doing it in the Improved Worldbuilder.

Just posted in the other thread a few minutes before
You will get the Portuguese, Cordoban, Byzantine and French too after we decided on your changes and everything is properly merged

 

[Daffy]

I noticed that the current namemap for beta13 was uploaded so I decided to do some editing to areas that imo seem odd in the game.

- Increased Köln to a 2x2 area, removing Dortmund and Essen
- Removed Kaiserslautern in favor of Trier, Koblenz area increased to fit the pattern of max 2x2
- increased Frankfurt by the Mannheim tile
- Baden-Baden renamed to Baden and area decreased in favor of Speyer
- Leipzig area increased to 2x2, reducing Halle by 1 tile
- 1 Bremen tile renamed to Hamburg
- minor shift in the Frankfurt/Fulda/Marburg/Paderborn area
- Paderborn decreased by 1 tile
- Fulda increased by 1 tile
- Marburg -1/+1 tile

these are just suggestions but I thik it might lead to more appropriate city naming by the AI

and another suggestion: The german AI loves to build Salzburg on top of the Cow..
maybe alter the preplaced road there to pass by the Cow?
Hoping the AI would build the city 1 tile south instead

 

[AbsintheRed]

I noticed that the current namemap for beta13 was uploaded so I decided to do some editing to areas that imo seem odd in the game.

- Increased Köln to a 2x2 area, removing Dortmund and Essen
- Removed Kaiserslautern in favor of Trier, Koblenz area increased to fit the pattern of max 2x2
- increased Frankfurt by the Mannheim tile
- Baden-Baden renamed to Baden and area decreased in favor of Speyer
- Leipzig area increased to 2x2, reducing Halle by 1 tile
- 1 Bremen tile renamed to Hamburg
- minor shift in the Frankfurt/Fulda/Marburg/Paderborn area
- Paderborn decreased by 1 tile
- Fulda increased by 1 tile
- Marburg -1/+1 tile

these are just suggestions but I thik it might lead to more appropriate city naming by the AI

and another suggestion: The german AI loves to build Salzburg on top of the Cow..
maybe alter the preplaced road there to pass by the Cow?
Hoping the AI would build the city 1 tile south instead

Fine by me, altough I remember there were some syncronizing issues with the French map
Are they more or less synced with these changes?

 

[Daffy]

Fine by me, altough I remember there were some syncronizing issues with the French map
Are they more or less synced with these changes?

I'd have to see a french name map for beta 13

 

[AbsintheRed]

I'd have to see a french name map for beta 13

Alright, here it is
Thanks!

 

[Daffy]

Alright, here it is
Thanks!

Changed the french map to fit the changes I made and started to fit the german map that I edited to the french map. But the further you get towards Burgundy/France the more the german map is off, it already was off..

- Changed 'Arlon' to 'Luxembourg' in the french map, removing Arlon and making Luxembourg a 2 tile city

I'd have to adjust the german map to fit the french map in the Burgundy and France areas, but I have to look up several of the french city names that are in that map.
Dijon/Dision is almost a 3x3 tile area in the german map

 

[Daffy]

update:
corrected Marburg to Marbourg

 

[Michael Vick]

I remember when I was going through this. Don't forget, now you have to go in the Dutch and Spanish maps for Luxembourg.

 

[Daffy]

I remember when I was going through this. Don't forget, now you have to go in the Dutch and Spanish maps for Luxembourg.

Aulon is back on the map, now included in the german version too
I noticed a few things though.
- Clamency on the french map comes up as Clamecy when I google it.
- Ivree (added to the german map on the unnamed tile in the alps with the Timber NW of Milan) This city doesn't exist? I get lots of name hits but nothing about a city.
- There is an Alexandria between Turin and Genua on the german name map?
- The french translation for Bamberg is Bambourg? A 'Burg' is a castle, seemingly translated into 'bourg' in french. Hamburg-Hambourg, Marburg-Marbourg, Stassburg-Starsbourg etc. A 'Berg' is a mountain/large hill, but my translation to 'Mont Bam' sucks too
But besides that I just noticed that the medieval name for 'Bamberg' was 'Babenberg'(according to Wikipedia)

List of changed/synchronized cities in the french/burgundian area of the german name map(adjusting the german map to match the french map):

Spoiler :

Luxemburg -> Aulon
Arras -> Atrecht
Saint-Quentin -> Sankt-Quentin
Abbeville -> Amiens (left it instead of changing or translating Abbeville to 'Stadt des Abtes' 'Abtsstadt' or whatever)
Laon
Soissons
Senlis
Saint-Denis -> Sankt-Denis
Meaux
Sens
Melun
Bar-le-Duc
Fontainebleau
Chaumont
Langres
Auxerre
Epinal -> Spinal
Autun
Clamency?? rename?
Dole
Lons-le-Saunier
Chalon-sur-Saone
Ivree?

 

[Michael Vick]

Aulon is back on the map, now included in the german version too
I noticed a few things though.
- Clamency on the french map comes up as Clamecy when I google it.
- Ivree (added to the german map on the unnamed tile in the alps with the Timber NW of Milan) This city doesn't exist? I get lots of name hits but nothing about a city.
- There is an Alexandria between Turin and Genua on the german name map?

List of changed/synchronized cities in the french/burgundian area of the german name map(fitting the german to match the french map):

Spoiler :

Luxemburg -> Aulon
Arras -> Atrecht
Saint-Quentin -> Sankt-Quentin
Abbeville -> Amiens (left it instead of changing or translating Abbeville to 'Stadt des Abtes' 'Abtsstadt' or whatever)
Laon
Soissons
Senlis
Saint-Denis -> Sankt-Denis
Meaux
Sens
Melun
Bar-le-Duc
Fontainebleau
Chaumont
Langres
Auxerre
Epinal -> Spinal
Autun
Clamency?? rename?
Dole
Lons-le-Saunier
Chalon-sur-Saone
Ivree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivrea Ivrea, it's Ivrée in French. German is Ivrea, I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandria Alessandria, German spelling appears to be Alexandria, Is the French spelling Alexandrie?

 

[Daffy]

edit:
- renamed Ivree to Ivrea in the german map
- corrected Aulon to Arlon in the french map and translated to Arel in the german map
edit2:
- corrected Clamency to Clamecy on the French map

 

[Voyelles]

Indeed, Clamency is a typo : Clamecy correct
As for Bamberg, I reckon it does not warrant a change - a corruption into Bambourg is possible but hitherto unconfirmed.

And may I say good work, Daffy!

 

[Daffy]

see previous post

 

[Sian]

found a city name problem with Hungary versus Venice (Venice being independent after Genoa capped their capital, followed by me grabing the land since i was building an army to attack them anyways)

Renaming the Hungarian Zara tile to Spalato (old name for Split) seems reasonable

 

[AbsintheRed]

Oh, that's a mistake on my end
It should be Spalato/Split like you said
Will fix when updating the city name maps for the new map