You think you can use one great modder and part of the Fireaxis team to promote his opinion " CIv4 is better then civ3 as the end all to this debate, then walk away with the rest of the facts we posted unrefuted?
You were advertising Rhye's mod here. So I thought his work and his opinions were of importance to you to you. But then again, he also got blinded by the stunning but unbearable 3ds of Civ IV and totally overlook the game mechanics. What a moron...
Sorry Rhye - should you ever read this, really no offence intended.
P.S.: Facts? Really don't want to lecture you, but I guess some quotes are necessary again, this time taken from Wikipedia:
"Generally, a fact is something that is the case, something that actually exists, or something that can be verified according to an established standard of evaluation."
"An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something. An opinion is not a fact, because opinions are either not falsifiable, or the opinion has not been proven or verified."
Me liking Civ IV better than Civ III or you prefering Civ III over Civ IV are
OPINIONS. Neiter is a
FACT. And here we are back again at my assumption of a 'pointless but weirdly entertaining bickering'. Enjoy! I still do...
And btw.: I really don't have any want or need to refute any or some or all of your so called 'facts'. I don't have a problem with people prefering Civ III. To some extend I can even understand them. The only thing where I sometimes raise my voice is if people come up with strange 'facts' about Civ IV. But only because of the entertainment (and you sure are an entertaining poster here), not because I have any ambition to prove anything. I don't know you, I don't care about you or your gaming habits. Do whatever you want, have whatever opinion you want, that sure wont keep me awake at night...
Still there is one thing I'd like to know - just for the sake of entertainment: someone posted (marciv, 2 posts further down), you'd be a great asset regarding Civ V. Do you guys really think, Firaxis will make a 180 degree turn, throw out all the 'b*llsh*t' they invented for Civ IV and give you the Über-Civ III you missed out on Civ IV? Because they finally realize reading all your entertaining posts, T.A. Jones was right and they were wrong??? Yeah? Incredible...
NOt sure where you going with this?
Heres reason some computer specs don' t mean anything with CIv4
Yes. I got that. My daily work consists to some extend of database design for a big car producing companay. So the only thing you could Civ IV blame for is, that it has to store away much more information regarding culture and religions and corporations for EACH SINGLE TILE of the game and also has to use all these informations when calculating the moves of each nation in the game. In database terms that creates a huge n-dimensional heap of data that at a given point blows the memory limit of 32 bit operating systems when raising the x-, y- and z-axis (map-heigt, map-width and nations) to ridiculous values - because growth is exponential. If you don't have that sophisticated gameplay (as for example in the predecessor of any given up to date computer game) you don't need as much data and so you probably can stuff a bigger map with more nations into the limited memory. And btw. 3d graphics usally needs even less memory than 2d because it consists to a large part of point coordinates and some textures. Animated bitmaps are usually much more memory consuming. Don't bother me to prove. Anyone who has some programming background will tell you, just ask them.
But then again, I am one of those dumbwits in the bondage of Civ IV and it's nothingness of polished 3ds - and I am clearly not a technical person either, so how could I possibly know anything???
P.S.: Another quick though regarding large empires. I often hear that complaint that Civ IV does not allow large empires. I also hear the complaint Civ IV to be a backstep in reality. Both do not go together. Earths history proves that no Civilization EVER was able to achive a domination victory. It's possible and sometimes rather easy to achive domination in Civ IV on SMALLER maps representing limited areas like the mediterranen. That's fun and gives you lots of points. On huge multinationed globes it's hard, nearly impossible. Anyone see the big picture? No??? I give you a hint: Realism!!!
Btw. no one ever mentioned one of my favourite improvements of Civ IV: the multitude of map scripts. Inland sea, plains, high plateau, dessert, continents, hemispheres, terra... I really LOVE that kind of stuff.
P.S.S.: I hate it to dizz Civ III, which I really liked to play. But sometimes you have to stand up to your believes.