Civ 5 Confirmed Features

[kochman]

@SickFak: Do you have internet at home? If so, what exactly is your gripe? You only need the internet to activate the game, after that you can play in Offline mode to your heart's content.

@Kochman: If you want to drive a car a Ferrrari, you have to buy gas, and insurance, and have a driver's license. Or you can take the bus. If you want to play Civ V, you will need a one-time internet connection, or you can play a different game.

You know, in order to play Civ V, you will also need Windows and a working computer, too. Just sayin'.

Ummm... not really a good point.
It's a computer game, so yes, you do need a computer.
You do not have to use Windows to play Civ... there are options out there.
If it was an internet game, I would say, ok, I understand the internet is needed. But really, there is no good reason for having to demand an internet connection, because it is a computer game.
Get it?

Here is my gripe, I am sure I am not alone here... I travel. I don't have internet at home on a reliable basis (I do at work, but I can't install it at work... nor would that be a good idea if I could). So, for me to DL over 1GB of data just to install... problem...

The basic problem here is there is no actual practical reason other than they are trying to prevent piracy...
Ok, it's not going to work... especially if you "only need the internet for the initial install".

Regardless...
Not buying it with steam... you really aren't going to talk me into it, nor most of those against, nor do you really have any interest in it. I am simply stating I am not buying any game with steam. Doesn't really need to be justified... it seems that people are attacking those who don't want steam, as though it is a personal affront to them because they accept steam. Get over it.

People have asked what the problem with steam is, I think it is clear what the problem is... doesn't mean you have to agree... but you ought to just go ahead and accept that people sitting at other computers don't agree with steam.

 

[Ddude97]

Ummm... not really a good point.
It's a computer game, so yes, you do need a computer.
You do not have to use Windows to play Civ... there are options out there.
If it was an internet game, I would say, ok, I understand the internet is needed. But really, there is no good reason for having to demand an internet connection, because it is a computer game.
Get it?

Here is my gripe, I am sure I am not alone here... I travel. I don't have internet at home on a reliable basis (I do at work, but I can't install it at work... nor would that be a good idea if I could). So, for me to DL over 1GB of data just to install... problem...

The basic problem here is there is no actual practical reason other than they are trying to prevent piracy...
Ok, it's not going to work... especially if you "only need the internet for the initial install".

Regardless...
Not buying it with steam... you really aren't going to talk me into it, nor most of those against, nor do you really have any interest in it. I am simply stating I am not buying any game with steam. Doesn't really need to be justified... it seems that people are attacking those who don't want steam, as though it is a personal affront to them because they accept steam. Get over it.

People have asked what the problem with steam is, I think it is clear what the problem is... doesn't mean you have to agree... but you ought to just go ahead and accept that people sitting at other computers don't agree with steam.

I agree ^ (with his sig too)

 

[Mustakrakish]

Poor analogy - a much better one would be.

If you want to drive a Ferrari you have to turn on a special 'device'(that has no real function in relation to the act of actually driving a Ferrari) and feed it personal information to be able to even enter your Ferrari the first time and everytime you want to enter your Ferrari after that you still have to turn on that special 'device '(even if you just want sit in your Ferrari in the privacy of your own garage) ... or at least you would have to do all this, if Ferrari also sold their cars making use of the same rules as those that applies to buying and using ciV.

Amen...

 

[Aro]

I just pre-ordered Civ V at Steam.
However, I admire your brave and heroic efforts to fight the inevitable, an orwellian world without privacy… Where you are forced to expose your computer and everything else (X-ray machines at airports… , security cameras everywhere, metal detectors and etc.) just to play a game. After all, it’s a big sacrifice deprive yourselves from playing Civ V.
However, I’m not sure if it works. New kids born and raised in this new world, boys and girls who never experienced any privacy… will buy the game.
Well, I really don’t see any way to face this and win... Except if you don’t worry about it, trying to keep a low profile and then (maybe) they will not notice you… I hope.

 

[timtofly]

My question with the whole steamworks thing is have they allowed enough time until release to work on this major change? The developers have either known all along that it was going to use steamworks and designed it that way, or they developed it with out steamworks and now since the "powers to be" have chosen steamworks, they are going to go back in and do this somewhat major revision. If it is the later, then why not offer a "steam free" version. If it was the first option, why not just let everone know when they first announced V?

Is it too late to make it an option and if you choose not to load that part of the software, you could still play a limited version of V? Couldn't they still do a check and verification online? You would still have to connect at least once, but you are not forcing someone to load something on their machine that they do not want.

There are always going to be people who resist change. It may not be possible to tell how many fans are not going to like this change in V. Only time will tell how many people are going to return the game due to the steam factor, or even just put it on the shelf until they resolve their fear of steam.

Having said that, and since I tend to resist change, if it was an all of a sudden change, at least give us an option this time around and wait until VI to make it standard.

 

[Me,myself,and,I]

If they are competent they knew it from the beginning.

Bite, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, use your magical powers to make another preview appear!

 

[Travis898]

Frederick the Great was a chubby old guy during the prime of his rule. Although it would make more sense to be Washington, the picture looks like Jefferson.

Well i think it looks like washington, but if you think about it. it looks like jefferson too.

 

[Michael Vick]

uhhh... SPAIN?

 

[MAHRana]

The Sumerians and the Zulus were a good idea in Civ IV. There aren't that many African or native American Civs, maybe the Benin empire could be added in an expansion pack, maybe even the Maoris.

 

[scribbler]

Ummm... not really a good point.
It's a computer game, so yes, you do need a computer.
You do not have to use Windows to play Civ... there are options out there.
If it was an internet game, I would say, ok, I understand the internet is needed. But really, there is no good reason for having to demand an internet connection, because it is a computer game.
Get it?

Here is my gripe, I am sure I am not alone here... I travel. I don't have internet at home on a reliable basis (I do at work, but I can't install it at work... nor would that be a good idea if I could). So, for me to DL over 1GB of data just to install... problem...

The basic problem here is there is no actual practical reason other than they are trying to prevent piracy...
Ok, it's not going to work... especially if you "only need the internet for the initial install".

Regardless...
Not buying it with steam... you really aren't going to talk me into it, nor most of those against, nor do you really have any interest in it. I am simply stating I am not buying any game with steam. Doesn't really need to be justified... it seems that people are attacking those who don't want steam, as though it is a personal affront to them because they accept steam. Get over it.

People have asked what the problem with steam is, I think it is clear what the problem is... doesn't mean you have to agree... but you ought to just go ahead and accept that people sitting at other computers don't agree with steam.

I myself wouldn't mind seeing a steam/online implementation if I were to get extra functionality out of doing so, instead of being forced to jump through hoops just because the publishers are trying to cut back on casual piracy (real piracy shall not be stopped by this measure). Something like having online servers take up the load so my computer is no longer taking two or three minutes processing a turn and instead is down to 20-30 seconds (or less). Make cloud computing work for us. Could even implement an optional yearly fee of a few bucks that would cover using the online server (with 1 year's usage free so that we're properly hooked on using the server and then will pony up the cash).

 

[kochman]

The Sumerians and the Zulus were a good idea in Civ IV. There aren't that many African or native American Civs, maybe the Benin empire could be added in an expansion pack, maybe even the Maoris.

The maoris? Are you kidding? What impact have they had on civilization at large?
That is the point to civs being in, in my book.
We throw in civs that had zero impact on the world enough as is, why more?
Sumerians were good... Zulus? hahahhaa... the biggest impact the "
zulus" have had is a massive HIV infection rate leading to self-imposed genocide.
I am sure my words will be challenged, and I welcome it, but really... it's true.

Enough of PC civ... put in Civs that impacted the world, leave the rest out (of the basic pack, mod away any and all civs you want!).

 

[MAHRana]

The maoris? Are you kidding? What impact have they had on civilization at large?
That is the point to civs being in, in my book.
We throw in civs that had zero impact on the world enough as is, why more?
Sumerians were good... Zulus? hahahhaa... the biggest impact the "
zulus" have had is a massive HIV infection rate leading to self-imposed genocide.
I am sure my words will be challenged, and I welcome it, but really... it's true.

Enough of PC civ... put in Civs that impacted the world, leave the rest out (of the basic pack, mod away any and all civs you want!).

I think it's better to "fill in the gaps" because no civs lie in Australia, North America and most of Africa, and those civs are most suitable for that area.

 

[DukeofDokken]

I wasn't really aware of what Steam is, but after getting the jist of it I'm not surprised it's not something that Sid wouldn't be in full support of. After all they made Marx a great person.

 

[scribbler]

I wasn't really aware of what Steam is, but after getting the jist of it I'm not surprised it's not something that Sid wouldn't be in full support of. After all they made Marx a great person.

Anyone wanna try translating? Are you equivocating not being in support of Steam with being a communist? What about libertarians who don't like owning anything with strings attached, and believe that any right to use is just that, a right to use as one sees fit?

 

[The Almighty dF]

Anyone wanna try translating? Are you equivocating not being in support of Steam with being a communist? What about libertarians who don't like owning anything with strings attached, and believe that any right to use is just that, a right to use as one sees fit?

I... ...have no idea what they're saying either.
I've seen seeing so many headscratchers lately on the subject of Steam & Civ5 that I'm worrying my browser will start displaying things in a non-euclidean way. Many of them I can't even what side they're on.

 

[Travis898]

steam-i british civ supporting game agency it is very complecated

 

[DukeofDokken]

Anyone wanna try translating? Are you equivocating not being in support of Steam with being a communist? What about libertarians who don't like owning anything with strings attached, and believe that any right to use is just that, a right to use as one sees fit?

No actually the opposite. That supporting Steam is more leaning towards an acceptance of big brother.

 

[scribbler]

I... ...have no idea what they're saying either.
I've seen seeing so many headscratchers lately on the subject of Steam & Civ5 that I'm worrying my browser will start displaying things in a non-euclidean way. Many of them I can't even what side they're on.

It's already started.

steam-i british civ supporting game agency it is very complecated

So not helping!

No actually the opposite. That supporting Steam is more leaning towards an acceptance of big brother.

Ah, OK. Agreed there then.

 

[nzcamel]

I think it's better to "fill in the gaps" because no civs lie in Australia, North America and most of Africa, and those civs are most suitable for that area.

Representing every part of the world with a civilisation, isn't the point of Civilization. Chosing the top civilisations and having them battle it out is the point of Civilization.

In a sense Australia (& NZ - home of the Maoris), & Nth America are represented firstly through the U.S. which was a British colony too; and secondly through England who colonised us.

As much as I love Maori culture, there's no way their civilisation's superior to modern New Zealand either.

 

[Mustakrakish]

I wish USA wasn't a starting civ. I wish it would come to be when some other civs colony declared independence... But then again we don't even know if colonies is an option in civ5.