Civ 5 Playthru -How to Conquer the World by being Poor, Upset and Massively Outgunned

[lemmy101]

My money is in real bad shape. Perhaps it's because of the siege of Akkad. Bismark's concentrating all his units at that one city. I'm mopping up the rest but my citizens can't work the tiles his units are stood on.

 

[lemmy101]

Do you mind sharing what the Babylon bonuses are?

I can't find this information on the internets, despite trying various creative queries on google.

I want to see what I am missing, as I bought the regular edition on steam, and am already regretting not shelling out the extra $10 :/

Free Great Scientist when discovering Writing.

50% time to generate a Great Scientist.

<3

 

[Louis XXIV]

Do you mind sharing what the Babylon bonuses are?

I can't find this information on the internets, despite trying various creative queries on google.

I want to see what I am missing, as I bought the regular edition on steam, and am already regretting not shelling out the extra $10 :/

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I'm hoping it'll be DLC, but they wait awhile (probably c. 2 months). I still haven't bought the game and I'll probably pay for Babylon, so I'd feel cheated if it comes up at a discounted price in just a couple of days. If it's any consolation, I'd imagine other DLC will come up soon as well, so then everybody will have something they might want.

 

[lemmy101]

I figured it out. It's because I've captured like 10 of his workers and 5 of his settlers during this war.

I've gone from one worker to about 15.

 

[lemmy101]

Hanover, mine...
Frankfurt, mine...

 

[ashmizen]

Can you still disband settlers and workers in your cities for +1 population? I don't remember if that worked in Civ IV, but it definately was in Civ II.

 

[lemmy101]

Hamburg and Dortmund fall to the awesome power of the Babylonians!

Not bad for a PUNY CIV, EH BISMARK?

Teehee!

 

[ashmizen]

Never mind - apparently disbanding workers and settlers didn't do anything in Civ IV, that only worked in Civ III and previous.

 

[lemmy101]

God, artillery are SO satisfying to use.

 

[lemmy101]

Awwww....

I think I'll call it a day with this war. I need Bismark around to test my nukes on, after all!

So after the war I now have 9 lovely puppet states!

I have 10 happiness since I stole all Bismarks luxuries. Poor old fella.

I disband a bunch of my lowest promoted units till I'm out of the red. Positive money AND happiness. What parallel universe is this?

So what I'm gonna do now is trade for some more luxuries, get a nice buffer, then annex the cities one by one building a courthouse in each, until this is all completely mine!

Then I may just deal with those city state blemishes in the middle of my empire!

(Power corrupts)

 

[Threedog43]

yay nukes!

 

[Buccaneer]

I figured it out. It's because I've captured like 10 of his workers and 5 of his settlers during this war.

I've gone from one worker to about 15.

Settlers and Workers entail maintenance?

 

[Baleur]

From where I'm sitting great person improvements seem to be a bust. There were thoughts before that they could be useful, but with a great scientist popping ANY tech (as opposed to putting a little under 2k into it) AND the fact that the improvement removes jungle and potentially covers undiscovered resources it's just an untenable improvement. I expect a patch to make these STACK with regular improvements (OR become buildings with the same benefits).

Exactly, the thing is, great inventors (or whatever they are called) dont auto-pop ANY building either, they put a specific ammount of hammers towards the construction.
There's no reason the great scientists shouldnt do the same.

As it is now they seem a bit op (i dont know yet).
If inventors cant insta-pop any building or wonder, why should scientists be able to?

 

[lemmy101]

Settlers and Workers entail maintenance?

Yep. (Workers at least)

I assume they do anyway, I disbanded a bunch and I was less in the red.

 

[Baleur]

I guess my main problem is just that i really REALLY dislike the idea of "slingshotting" techs like that in a Civ game..
They have always had realism take a back seat in favor of gameplay, sure. But...
Having a catapult-civ slingshot to cannons in a single or 3 turns? That has no place in Civilization.
Then we might as well have random ufo-lands-and-hands-you-a-plasma-cannon events

 

[lemmy101]

I <3 the Great Proph / Oracle slingshots on Civ 4. They were OP though since they relied on a wonder which can only go to one player.

At least this is an even field. As I said before I went through about 2000 years of being completely underdefended and miserable because of it. If I had anyone else but Bismark next to me this thread would have ended 8 pages ago.

 

[ashmizen]

Yeah, the Oracle was ok, since you had to build a wonder, and you can only get 1 tech, but this a bit silly. The should make GP just add X research points to the next tech, which would be enough to get all low level techs but only a fraction of modern techs.

On the other hand, it makes for a fun game to read about. I can't wait to hear the next tibit of news...

 

[lemmy101]

I think it all evens out. I could have used all those great scientists for golden ages and improvements.

Golden ages in this are bloody good. I never bothered with them in Civ 4 but in Civ 5 your production and treasury ROCKETS up.

Let's put it this way for all the 'advantage' they gave me, all the other civs have caught up on tech and a few have double my score.

It's 1995 and I'm not even close to any victory, so I'd debate how much it's helped me except in fighting someone with a really crap tech level.

See? Not even first on tech any more.

I've probably not gotten across how well the Europeans are doing, and how much of an anomaly it turns out Bismark was. ;D

 

[MisterBenn]

Not bad for a PUNY CIV, EH BISMARK?

Didn't Bismark say that a couple of thousand years ago? Remind me not to get on your bad side!

You're on the way to harnessing the power of a continent unless someone abroad takes offense! Do you have any spare assets you could use to bribe some of these foreign powers to fight each other?

Thanks for taking the time to post all this, it's a great read and enlightening (I am in UK and preloaded, and object to downloading a second lot of 4.4Gb for the demo for a couple of days!)

 

[Some guy]

Has it ever occured to you that it wouldn't have mattered who was next to you? Bismarck is losing because he didn't play his cards right. It coulda happened to anyone..