Civ beginner question.

[dofz]

A few days ago I bought civ3 the complete series from steam, it's all good.Lovely game . Anyway question is, why does it say that my flood plains are unhealty and some of my people died.

Screenshot below, black dot is where my people died. What's causing it? There aint any jungles or anything around it. Thanks in advance

 

[Padma]

Welcome to CFC!

Floodplains, like Jungles, can cause disease. They're a two-edged sword, because they help you grow fast, yet may cause loss of population from disease.

 

[dofz]

oh, haha. Must've missed that I was looking desperatly around if I could see any tiles that could cause disease, didn't know flood plains itself could cause it.

Thanks for the quick answer. also, awesome forum, great to follow others games aswell, I've learned quite alot just reading it the last few days!

 

[Othniel]

Welcome to CFC. Having your citizens work floodplain tiles puts them at risk of dying to disease. Jungle tiles do too, as you seem to know. If disease strikes, you are guaranteed of having it for two turns in a row, meaning two citizens from that town will die. No way to stop it once it hits.

EDIT: Lol, lots of crossposting.

 

[Aabraxan]

Welcome to CFC, dofz!

What's causing it is the flood plains themselves. Flood plains can cause disease and kill citizens up until you discover Sanitation (IIRC).

Edit: Wow! I got cross-posted in a big way!

 

[Sharwood]

The guys are right dofz, flood plains cause disease in the same manner as jungles. I believe the new swamps do so too, although it hasn't happened to me yet - I haven't been struck by disease once in the months since I got C3C, I probably just jinxed myself saying that. You can clear jungles and swamps, but you have to wait until you get Sanitation to stop disease in flood plains.

 

[NickyH]

Did they change the likelihood of disease from flood plains from vanilla to C3C? I have a feeling that I got disease more often when I played vanilla, but on the other hand I might imagine the difference just because I didn't expect it when I was new to the game.

 

[Sharwood]

I have no idea, but I have noticed the same thing. As I stated above, I have not once been hit by disease since I got C3C, when it happened quite regularly to me on PTW. Never had Vanilla.

 

[Rodrig0]

Having your citizens work floodplain tiles puts them at risk of dying to disease.

Do they have to be working on that tile to get the disease? I think it is only neccesary that the city has some jungle/floodp/marshes around to be at risk of disease... I haven't actually checked that to be 100% sure, but I remember disease striking in some of my cities with jungle around, even though there were lots of other healthy tiles to work... next time disease strikes, I'll post a save from the turn before, to see if rearranging citizens prevents it. I fear it will be soon, as in my current game I have jungle everywhere.

Now a little offtopic question: there's some room by the coast to build a city, but if I move 1 tile away from the coast, I will be next to a river. Where shoud I build? River to avoid aqueduct, or sea to get full food from it? No need to get off the thread, just raise left hand for river, right for sea

 

[vmxa]

They have to be working the tiles.

River is of more value to me. I prefer to be able to have shields, rather than food or commerce in early towns.

 

[Sharwood]

I'm pretty sure they just need to be in the city radius.

As for the river coast question, it depends on the situation, time in game, nearby resources, etc., but on average I'd choose the river.

 

[Sashie VII]

AFAIK the floodplain tile have to be worked i.e. the city is consuming food from it. This might not necessarily be a citizen working it - it might also be that the city is founded on a floodplain.

 

[Sharwood]

I know for a fact I've been hit with disease from jungles when I haven't been working the tile, I reloaded several times to check, because I was under the assumption you had to be working them myself. Is it different for floodplains, or is this something that's been changed for C3C? Because I know I've been hit with this on PTW.

 

[vmxa]

This wold be "fact" that I would have to see proven. I would strongly suspect you missed something. One this could be that disease will occur twice in a row and nothing you do will change the second occurrence.

So I would expect that you had disease and the citizen working the tile died. You look and yup, no one is working the tile, but you are going to get another death anyway.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

 

[Sharwood]

I'm telling you, I checked this multiple times, and I had no units working the jungle before the first turn of disease. I repeatedly checked it because I was, to put it quite bluntly, pissed. For that matter, since my city only had a pop of two, I only had one turn of disease.

I just had a thought. I built the city on a jungle square. Surely that wouldn't affect it, would it? I mean, it's not jungle anymore after you've built there.