Conversely, I'm primarily a narrative gamer (I actually play more RPGs and adventure games than I do strategy games), so the changes appeal to me a lot on a narrative level. Something to shake up the constantly upward ascension of Civ's narrative is something I've wanted for a long time. I'd hoped R&F's dark ages would be something like that, but they turned out to be very tame and very avoidable.
One feature I miss is the end game map replay; in fact, I'd really like FXS to do a better job of providing a history of the world at the end of each game. With switching, I feel this even more strongly, given that there are so many interesting permutations.
I did a derp with the dates.
Meant more a jump from 400 to something like 1066. Still a big jump but not as mad as before haha
While we don’t know too much about transitions, the second age starts in 400 though.I think it was just a misunderstanding that may have happened because of an English barrier or misreading, in that they read it as if you meant they are a shame / should be ashamed for not liking it, instead of the meaning you used that is the same as "It is a pity"Precisely. I'm genuinely at loss to see how anything I've said can be interpreted as blaming fans for being upset.
I'm not much into narrative when it comes to a game like civ, but this change sounds better for narrative for me, showing how you will evolve through the ages.
That's an interesting take, never considered it that way before. I am very bad at overcoming this tendency.
Narrative games are really interesting. I'm also a partial RPG narrative gamer myself.
I'm not entirely sure we have been playing the same Civilization games!
I was talking about civilization for a moment there, not the game. Honestly Firaxis should have named the game Barbarism cause that better suits the playstyle of most of us. .
We haven‘t seen the date as far as I know. My money is on 1800 as start for the last age.
Hopefully the 'independence wars' will be our Exploration Age crisis. We play through a crisis in the last 20% or so of the Antiquity Age, and I think its expected we will play through one for ExplorationMmmh, 1700 - 1800 would cover the American independence and French revolution.
That's not exactly a "dark age" I would like to skip but at least it makes somewhat sense as a kind of "independence wars lead to new civs".
Point is, I would like to play such independence wars instead of skipping them
I think the idea isMmmh, 1700 - 1800 would cover the American independence and French revolution.
That's not exactly a "dark age" I would like to skip but at least it makes somewhat sense as a kind of "independence wars lead to new civs".
Point is, I would like to play such independence wars instead of skipping them
When you say "it's a shame" you're basically saying "I wish you'd like what the devs are doing". But it depends on what the devs are doing. If they do something I like or am willing to accept - good for them. If not, it is a shame, but it is their fault. I am the consumer and target audience. If they give me something I don't want, it is their error. So yes, it is a shame, but not that there are many fans who don't like the new game, but that the devs have decided to make a game many fans were not going to like. And again, I hope this was a decision they made knowing what would happen, and what the response would be. I really hope they were not clueless and unaware and thought the fans were going to buy everything they offered.Precisely. I'm genuinely at loss to see how anything I've said can be interpreted as blaming fans for being upset.
