Civ VI age ideas.

[arkguy]

Here are 5 suggetions for ages to be used in Civ VI. Feudal, Imperialism, Information, Digital and Axial.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Voted for information age only.

Digital and information age aren't that the same thing basicly?

Imperalism and Feudalism aren't in my opinion names that fits ages in a Civ game.'

Axial could replace the classical age but I don't know if that is a good name for a age.

It would maybe be a good idea to get new names for medieval, renissance and classical ages but it would have to be something better then feudal age or imperalism age

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

NONE OF THE ABOVE

If we have to have another 'Age' or 'Era', we need The Enlightenment Era - between Renaissance and Industrial, the REAL Era of the Frigate, Ship-of-the-Line, earliest Industrial beginnings, field cannon, Fusiliers, Redcoats, Minutemen, Hussars, Lancers, etc.

BUT why have Eras at all? They are all artificial, and the organization of them so far has been extremely Euro-centric - thus the terms 'Classical Era', 'Medieval Era', 'Renaissance Era' - all artificial, none applicable outside of Europe and a small part of the Middle East.

 

[SeCool22]

Paleolithic, Mesolithic, Neolithic ... or simply, Prehistory ...

from the list, I like most Feudal and Axial age ...

 

[ehecatzin]

NONE OF THE ABOVE

If we have to have another 'Age' or 'Era', we need The Enlightenment Era - between Renaissance and Industrial, the REAL Era of the Frigate, Ship-of-the-Line, earliest Industrial beginnings, field cannon, Fusiliers, Redcoats, Minutemen, Hussars, Lancers, etc.

BUT why have Eras at all? They are all artificial, and the organization of them so far has been extremely Euro-centric - thus the terms 'Classical Era', 'Medieval Era', 'Renaissance Era' - all artificial, none applicable outside of Europe and a small part of the Middle East.

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The era thats sorely lacking, since forever in Civ is the enlightment age, thats the one we need the most.

 

[Vandal Thorne]

I think I would arrange this into Ages and Eras.

Age of Antiquity
-- Ancient Era
-- Classical Era
-- Medieval Era

Age of Enlightenment
-- Renaissance Era
-- Industrial Era
-- Modern Era

Contemporary Age
-- Post-Modern Era (WWII Era)
-- Atomic Era (Cold War Era)
-- Information Era

 

[Fabio1701]

I think I would arrange this into Ages and Eras.

Age of Antiquity
-- Ancient Era
-- Classical Era
-- Medieval Era

Age of Enlightenment
-- Renaissance Era
-- Industrial Era
-- Modern Era

Contemporary Age
-- Post-Modern Era (WWII Era)
-- Atomic Era (Cold War Era)
-- Information Era

This is nice, but words like Contemporary, Modern and Post-Modern loose relevance in meaning when you go beyond it. WW2 took 5 years, so hardly an era. And I think civ should go beyond the information age. I'd call the last bit like this:

Age of Antiquity
-- Ancient Era
-- Classical Era
-- Medieval Era

Age of Enlightenment
-- Renaissance Era
-- Industrial Era
-- Atomic Era

Globalization Age
-- Information Era
-- Genetic Era (when we start to really screw with our genome, which is only a few decades off)
-- Something freaking awesome era

 

[Vandal Thorne]

I'm looking at it from the usual historian's view. The wars take place within and partially define those eras.

Industrial Era - roughly 1776~1875
Modern Era - roughly 1876~1925
Post-Modern Era - roughly 1926~1950
Atomic Era - roughly 1951~1975
Information Era - roughly 1975~2000
Future - 2001+ (we are living in it)

 

[daft]

My suggestion's this: Starting with Civ6 let me play only one era at a time, 500 turns, more or less of Ancient/Classical era only, Civ7 would switch to Middle Ages, Civ8 the Renaissance, and so on. This would make it possible for me to enjoy playing as empires which historically were great in the certain era, not having for example the Americans-who were originally founded as a British colony in the Renaissance are there available to start the game in 4000 BC. Kinda getting tired of the concept of Incas launching nuclear weapons, Babylonians conquering space, and so on.
Could have several non Ancient Era nations included in the game based on the type of unique units they'd get and their historical level of scientific advancement upon coming into contact with more advanced civilizations. Examples: Iroquois, Sioux, Apache, Polynesia, Zulu, Aztecs, Inca, Maya- tribes like that could be in the game in the ancient era besides the obvious Greeks(Hellenes), Persians, Romans or Chinese.
There would be no gunpowder or space flight research for obvious reasons.
In CIV7 Romans would be replaced by Byzantines, Huns with Mongols and several new nations like Germany, Russia, Japan, and others would be introduced.

 

[ehecatzin]

My suggestion's this: Starting with Civ6 let me play only one era at a time, 500 turns, more or less of Ancient/Classical era only, Civ7 would switch to Middle Ages, Civ8 the Renaissance, and so on.

So what you want is Civ to turn into Age of Empires? I cant imagine Firaxis going that route.

As for eras, I think they almost got them, if anything we are missing an Enlightment Era, the gap between rennaisance and industrial is too big.

But I'd love a late Antiquity/early medieval era, either that or make classical longer, it goes way too fast.

 

[awesome]

Well, I'd make an adjustment to that. Civilization isn't the type of game where it makes sense to dedicate each game to one era, so just let everyone pick which era(s) they want to play as a checkbox, kind of like how you can pick when you'll start. And then you just pick which civs are in the game.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Well, I'd make an adjustment to that. Civilization isn't the type of game where it makes sense to dedicate each game to one era, so just let everyone pick which era(s) they want to play as a checkbox, kind of like how you can pick when you'll start. And then you just pick which civs are in the game.

Amen. More flexibility in picking starting eras, times, conditions, etc would make for a much more interesting game overall.

 

[daft]

Age of Empires is not a turn based game, they wouldn't be copying anything from that franchise, I don't think. Besides, the Era Play could be an Expansion to Civ6, Ancient Era for Civ6, Middle Ages for Civ7, and so on. I understand that the way I originally wrote it down the US wouldn't be in the game till Civ8, unless in expansion game, so perhaps that could be a factor.
Creating 1 era only CIV would bring in dozens of new advances, nations, units and leaders into the game.

 

[Makavcio]

Division of world's history into eras is entirely artificial. We just agreed that certain periods of time shared certain common elements and had some important, maybe even groundbreaking events that could work as their still very vague limits in time. Nothing more. As it was already stated, the division we are using now is extremely eurocentric, but it's being used simply for the lack of anything better. I wouldn't mingle with eras at all.

Maybe we could even decrease their number. Now, we all rush through everything starting with industrial era and then move back to research older techs. Ancient era, classical era, Renaissance, industrial era, modern era and information era. This is enough for the game and there is a absolutely no practical need for multiplying them. In Civ5, the only real reason for existence of all eras past modern era is voting mechanism.

Let's not forget that Civ is a game and all of its mechanism must work gameplay-wise. It's not only a matter of historical accuracy.

 

[Vandal Thorne]

Division into eras chunks the time passage into more coherent pieces. Not sure why having more or being able to tailor them to those of your choosing damages or doesn't work gameplay-wise.

I've suggested things along these lines in the past. See here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=502749

 

[forcedalt]

I am for the curmudgeony idea of : ditching the eras all together. As said earlier : the eras only practical purpose was/is to : herald changes in the world congress/UN. Those changes could be tied to specific techs , that is : if they would even do UN the same way. I found the UN to be a bit of a non starter since : the AI is adamantly stubborn in how its going to vote on a certain resolution , and , what its going to propose , with no tools to sway "opinion" , or court votes , but , that's a little off the subject. As for eras : sometimes less is more. Lets just keep it loose without locking you in to being tied to an era.

 

[arkguy]

There are some good ideas and suggestions made, defiantly like Vandal Throne, SeCool22 & Fabio1701 suggestions. There were some good discussions & comments from some of the others too. Thanks to all.

 

[Krajzen]

You forgot about Enlightment Era. No, it is not the same as barbaric Imperial Era of blood and steel

Also, what in the name of sweet Jesus is axial era?

EDIT

Hey, axial era is awesome! 'The period between 800BC and 200AD when the main historical intellectual revolutions happened in the China, India, Middle East and Occident' - this is... such wonderfully... not Eurocentric... I want it instead of this stupid Greek/Roman 'classical era'! o_o

Hm... Between 800BC and 200AD... Zoroastranism, christianity, islam, buddhism, confucianism, Jewish diaspora, unification of India, China and Europe [Roman Empire], first great empires [Persia], democracy, first attempts at scientific method, first polymaths, the beginning of advanced mathematics and the beginning of the Silk Road... This is GENIUS! I want Axial era!!!

 

[otaman1]

-- Something freaking awesome era

Beyond Earth era

 

[andreafin]

why not have era named by the civ you are playing. what would they call it? if playing china surely they have name for certain points in their advancement? you could keep the eurocentric ones for euro civs. and maybe you have to add new ones for civs that dont have any such terms, even if its only the word classical or whatever in their native language?
i have more problem with golden age; that seems very subjective, since every golden age seems to be in the past for everyone when you ask. they all seem to agree that it was better in their youth or that their country was greater than now once...