Civ3 PTW Patch v1.21f Released!

[Mega Tsunami]

How can you have two versions of the same version? A recipe for confusion if ever there was one. At the very least they should call them:

1.21US and
1.14RoW etc.

And the version should display on the screen as well.
Perhaps the Americans are not interested in what happens outside the US?

I am becoming increasingly frustrated at the delay.
When will 1.21RoW come out? - when 1.34US comes out no doubt.

 

[Wanderer]

haven't seen anything in the readme's to indicate the version. I've installed 1.29f, and 1.14f and they seem to be working. I definitely think they should make some kind of obvious distinction, since they gone this strange route. RoW and US , or something like that!

Looking forward to the first MP games - I've seen a lot of talk about 1.21 fixing lag issues. Is it worthwhile trying to play on 56K with PTE 1.14 , or do I have to wait until I get 1.21, or ISDN ( althoug our ISDN will liekly only be 64 K :-(


Ciao 4 now

 

[Hygro]

I would expect a 56 on 1.14 wouldn't work well.

 

[Kev1916]

quote:
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Originally posted by anarres
DJ54,

The United Kingdom consists of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. I believe they are all countries, although they have all been under English law for some time. Scotland has it's own government now, although it is not fully autonomous (yet), Wales has an assembly, although this is nowhere near autonomous (or even a government), and Northern Ireland did have a government recently, but the English government disbanded it recently due to the breakdown of talks there.

When people talk of the England as the old imperialists, it means exactly that. England (the country) had it's fingers in all the pies, and owned/controlled about 70% of world production about 100 years ago. The UK 'principalities' are still ruled from England, but they are countries in their own right.

FWIW, I have always been a little confused myself
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Your Wrong , how can you expect our American friends to understand The Uk when the English Dont get it

Scotland has its own seperate Legal system and we are not under English law !!

its been over 300 years since Scotland Join England under a Scottish King, and hopefully we can soon get away from the English Arragance, and became a seperate Country again

and btw when you talk about " owned/controlled about 70% of world production about 100 years ago" that was Great Britian pal not England and Scotland is ceratinly not a principalitie.


Shh, the Arrogance of the man,
and Btw Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom not F***ing England

Moderator Action: Bholed and everyone else involved in this dispute, stop threadjacking this thread with your flamewar. If you disagree with each other, take it to pm or email.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Mega Tsunami]

I don't understand why racist comments from bholed are left on this thread when we are not allowed to respond to them. Surely the above comments should at least be removed.

 

[anarres]

I agree Mega Tsuami.

I also apologise if my earlier post upset anyone. It was a genuine attempt to help someone with a question, and tongue-in-cheek may not have been the best posting style for it.

 

[Kev1916]

I don't understand why racist comments from bholed are left on this thread when we are not allowed to respond to them. Surely the above comments should at least be removed.


Mmmm.


I dont follow how correcting a comment from a fellow member of this site is "Racist", if it is in breach of this sites rules fair enough.
Then anarres previous post should be removed as well


But I am certainly not a Racist.

But I don't think incorrect comments should stand either, whether
through "tongue-in-cheek" or through ignorance .

 

[anarres]

bholed,

I have PM'd you twice now, and you have not read them.

I am not going to post here again about this issue, this post is merely an attempt to get you to read your PM.

 

[Mega Tsunami]

I downloaded ptw version 1.14 from civ3.de (it seemed to be the first one to publish it) and am keeping an eye on it for v1.21

Maybe it won't be long now. Translating from German through google, a part of civ3.de reveals the following:

German PtW Patch 1.21f in prospect?
Written of MatFis on Wednesday, 26 March 2003 - 23:15
For many of the wrong-examined players of the German version the following lines might be on the Infogrames - homepage like a release:
"love Civilization player, the Patch 1,21 for the Addon" Play The World "is finished shortly. Momentarily we work on the refinement of the localization. If thereafter the tests successfully run, the Patch is published here."

Should it be vergoennt perhaps nevertheless also German players, with which international Community on-line to play (which at present because of the different Patchversionen is impossible)? Thank you for this new tip at Moritz!

 

[Hermes]

Just checking on infogrames.de, where they inform that the european version of PTW 1.21 is upcoming - it just needs a little fine-tuning....so I guess all of us patch-hungry europeans just have to wait a bit more.....

 

[Hygro]

but the new patch isn't too far off--I'd guess a few months at tops, a few weeks minimum (testing starts in 2 weeks or so).

 

[Mercade]

Originally posted by Hygro
but the new patch isn't too far off--I'd guess a few months at tops, a few weeks minimum (testing starts in 2 weeks or so).

Yeah, it'll be out at least before Christmas.

 

[Yecos]

does this patch fix the "interception" crash when you use bombers ?

btw : is there any news for the european release ?

 

[Mercade]

Originally posted by Yecos
does this patch fix the "interception" crash when you use bombers ?

If you go to the very first post of this thread, where Chieftess quotes the readme.txt associated with the patch, you will read:

* Fixed a graphics issue with bombarding and interception causing a lockup and graphics corruption.

Originally posted by Yecos
btw : is there any news for the european release ?

Normally you'd say that no news is good news, but in this case it's just a matter of waiting until Infogrannies deigns to provide service by releasing the patch provided by the fine people of Firaxis.

 

[oysteini]

Normally you'd say that no news is good news, but in this case it's just a matter of waiting until Infogrannies deigns to provide service by releasing the patch provided by the fine people of Firaxis.

No doubt Civ3(PTW) is a fine game, made by fine developers at Firaxis. BUT, the 1.21 patch has now taken more than 2 months to "translate" from US to UK ???!! This delay is even more frustrating when you know these "fine" people are working on yet another US patch, which rumours says are "nearly" finished !! This kind of attitiude is so typical for Americans, it does not seem to matter what people outside their own country might want or think.. Sad. I should have bought the american versions of the game instead!

 

[Yecos]

mercade : thank you for your help, i didn't see that one

 

[Padma]

oysteini: Perhaps you are unaware of the difference between a developer and a publisher. Firaxis develops the patches, tests them and delivers them to Infogrames, the publisher. They have no further control over the patches, as in distribution and timing of release. All that belongs to Infogrames.

FWIW, my understanding is that it is the European division of Infogrames that is the bottleneck, in this case.

 

[heihojin]

Originally posted by oysteini
This kind of attitiude is so typical for Americans, it does not seem to matter what people outside their own country might want or think..

EXCUSE ME????? :rant:

I am currently running eight multiplayer PBEM games, with a total of 23 distinct players. When v1.21f was released in the U.S. and determined to be incompatible with all previous versions, our consensus was to keep these games at v1.14f for the sole benefit of our European colleagues. This means that U.S. players who had already patched would have to unpatch, or keep a separate v1.14f installation just to keep playing these games. There are 13 of us American players in these eight PBEM games, and some of us have gone to great lengths to keep these games running.

So stop to consider those 13 exceptions next time you spout off on what is "so typical for Americans." [phaser]


heihojin

 

[oysteini]

So stop to consider those 13 exceptions next time you spout off on what is "so typical for Americans." [phaser]

Maybe I should have written "Typical for American companies", It's great that you guys patch your versions down to 1.14 and play with us europeans. I have nothing against americans in general.. Sorry.. But it just would have been a lot easier both for you and for us if they released the european 1.21 patch at the same time as the US. This is starting to make me really angry considering it's been over 2 month now. The 1.14 did not seem to have the same problems ??!

 

[Bouchehog]

Originally posted by bholed
Scotland has its own seperate Legal system and we are not under English law !!

its been over 300 years since Scotland Join England under a Scottish King, and hopefully we can soon get away from the English Arragance, and became a seperate Country again

and btw when you talk about " owned/controlled about 70% of world production about 100 years ago" that was Great Britian pal not England and Scotland is ceratinly not a principalitie.

Quite apart from the arrogant tone here you are mistaken yourself. Although the Scots have a separate legal system, with a judiciary independent of England, Scotland still resides “under English law”. It is the interpretation of this law that differs and not the law itself. You are correct to an extent however as the Scottish parliament does have significant power now. A brief look at a great deal of statute will confirm this for you, but I’m happy to quote examples.

Regarding control of 70% of world production, well it was neither England nor Great Britain – it was the British Empire. Unless that is, you’re trying to make the point that Britain alone controlled 70% of production which I can tell you is simply not true. I should also point out that Scotland was hardly the most productive area in Britain, indeed it’s economy was really rather poor. Thankfully the situation has now changed and Scotland is doing well for itself. If the Scots want independence then I don’t see why we should stop them.

I make neither of these claims without some authority – I have a degree in history from Durham, specialising in the nineteenth century economic history although I also studied the union of the crowns, I’m also now studying to take the English Bar exam (which will not qualify me in Scottish courts).