rguymon said:
No offense but I am at a lost at how you can compare c4 to anything if you have only played 2 games. You also said you did not play much in those two games just kept restarting.
did you miss what I said? "from what I know so far"
Alright.
Now that i have completed my game and won in every victory possible except space race, I thought i did but when i retired i looked at the info screen and it said i needed one more thruster, but oh well.
Anyways, let me explain what happened. where was I? I turned Caeser on the Greeks, As the greeks moved West towards Caeser I decended my troops south n SW towards greece. Rome asked me to goto war against alexander I agreed. And I hadnt seen Caeser fight at all besides Naval the entire time. I quickly took all of the Greeks cities, with few loses, I was expecting them to be tougher. Then I went to war with the Romans, immediatly after the greeks were slayed. I quickly take over Rome, had a bit more trouble than before but not much. After Rome is gone I start sending half of my Military on that continent to my other continent, i had all Coast cities building Transports and then Id fill them up and send them out. I sent them to the outside edge of mansa munsa's border. Declared War took his city he had on my continent, Sent in my ships put my troops outside his cities, then sent the troops from my territory on that continent to mansa. Easily overpowered him, I was expecting a better fight from him seeing as how he had more power than caesar, but hey, easy fight, one slow down was he had an island off the coast of japan, I sent ships down to weaken him and used a single mech infantry to take the city, Before idid i declared war on japan, 1 city flipped next turn then i took another that was about to. brought the fight striaght down thru their country, and I noticed them send out troops from the capital towards another city, seeing the opportunity, I took the other city, and used the tanks while on the transport to take the city, crushing the Japanese.
Anyways it wasa nice easy victory.
Difficulty? um, im pretty sure it was noble, maybe little lower?
Now that ive finished the game ill tell you what i've come to know.
The AI atleast the game i played was not so good. I easily bribed them for religion, and once they became my religion i got anything i wanted from them. Once free religion was up, i got screwed over on gettign what i wanted, however Common Military struggles Really help ya out in relations. it was an upgrade from Civ3 but not much, Perhaps next time ill have to play with the max of civs and see how that goes. But i gotta Ask when someone pulls a hitler, (Takes over one country after another while the others stand by and say give hi mwhat he wants n hell shut up) you'd think they would get wise after the 2nd country, but no the japanese were the only ones that realised this, and they wouldnt goto war with me out of fear, but thru it i was able to take 7 nations, 2 continents 99% of the worlds land and 100% of the worlds population.
Religion is Great. Really Helps early on.
The unwritten military alliance thing is great, simply because in Civ3 my people would riot all the time and I would either have to pull out and upset other nations or win but in Civ3 they provided more of a challenge for some reason, so id always pull out calm the disorder and get right back into it and finish it. This, i coul probably go in and out as much as id like, idk i didnt get very much disorder.
having people ask for peace for you is great to. kinda makes you feel like roosevelt in the russojapanese wars you kno?
great people.. disappointing. I honestly only used the prophets to make the shrines, and i used 2 artist to make a great works, and i did go thru 2 goldenages thansk to them but at the end of the day i still had a busload of them.
I like how the space ship requires more of each object like 3 thrusters instead of Civ3 where its one peice. it allows more competitive race, even tho i wiped all the civs before they could begin contruction. Hell I got all my nukes made and then made it illegal to make them before the others had rocketry
i do like the heal function saves time, before id fortify troops forget about them and wonder why i didnt have enough troops at the city to take it.
The UN is great but could be better. More votes are needed. Civs should be able to request whether or not they want in the UN and the UN should be able to vote War against certain Civs that may not be folllowing the Rules or something. and War doesnt end until the civ is destroyed or a vote after 10 turns allows u to decide. it be sweet. The UN should be given more power in the game. Simply because it gives players a chance to rule the world.
tech tree although its nice to jump around a bit.. I've never been so confused. I mean, it says you can do this but then u cant unless you have this tech and its like? WTH? i mean its nice because if u play your cards right you end up more advanced than you need to be and all the techs ur missing end up taking a turn or two and u get to hear lenard more lol
Graphics are phenominal(by that i mean for a Civ game its way more than it needs to be but its greatlol). However I never get to see opening movie because the audio and video jumps on opening video... Movies are sweet, music is alright. I do however love that main menu african song. i find myself singing along as i load my game lol.
Open Borders... I FRICKEN LOVE IT. I too hated telling them to get out of my lawn all the time and then they threaten WAR and im like oh no u didnt lol But in Civ3 mid midevil times I rarly had that problem as I would mass produce Troops and Build Giant Walls on my borders so anyone in the borders was stuck anyone outside was stuck outside, and after a while other nations would either disband or get yelled at by me and thrown out of my territory. Open Borders allows me to build my wall but miss spots, if i have open borders theyll be able to get thru no matter what, if i close it no worries, if I goto War a few little gaps is not going to effect my way of keeping them out.
i do like how the Civilopedia is set up like like the info part, but i prefer the Civ3 set up on choosing what u want to look at.
Dont care much about adivsors, Civ3s adivisors and interface for advisors was better.
few wonders disappointed me, but oh welll. Mech infantry was a major disappointment offensivly, rifle men were able to destroy them. Defensivly they did quiet well, but then again i had rare defensive situations mostly because my offense was so strong i destroyed the othersides offense and defense lol anyways, Mech infantry sucked unless in numbers of 3 or higher and facing Riflemen andlower unless opposition was attacked by artilary or Defense bonuses were lowered or removed.
Modern Armor, I lost a few but thats because Id send them in no matter how beat up they were. I captured Rome using a Modern Armor that had been in several battles, and had had 5 hp left. ofcourse due to experience n City Raiding and the fact that the defensive bonuses were removed and there were onyl 2 long bowmen on gaurd he survived. Until i sent him to battle with mansas troops, still unhealed, got hit from behind by barbarians. after that i let my modern armors heal, especially since i didnt have the time to bring more in from the mainland for my battle with japan.
Anyways overall the game was pleasing and every bit as addicting as Civ3 maybe more. I give the game 4.5/5 Civ 3 was only a 4. Civ4 is a great game but it still has some issues to work out.
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I was also disappointed with Transports, however very pleased wit hthe rest of the Naval Vessles. Transports need more roo matleast 6 people.
I will give credit to the AI on doing one very stratigic thing to try and stop me, however it only reenforced my belief that isabell and montazuma need to die. Basically in early part of the game i built a city above huge chain of mountains and below the huge chain of mountains, the Spansih were o nthe western end and they built a city on the eastern end, Expanded and then canceled open borders with me, leaving my cities below the chain completely cut off. my only routes were sea routes the easiest one was then cut off by the aztecs capital border which expanded to meet the Spanish border across the sea, i had to take the long route around Spain. But that just gave me more reason to crush them. And i did, with realitive ease thanks to my cities that were very self suffient, and i doubt i would of been able to fight them if it werent for that.
Also one addition id like to see in a future patch or update would be Provinces or States. Allow you to connect Certain cities together inorder to form provinces, more cities more productive. then have features like Send troops of Province A to Province B or to This Tile. Send all none Fortified Troops to Province A ect. then assign building to it, like Province B builds Wonders and Improvements, Province A builds military-Gunpower/Armored Province C build militarys -Navy/AirForce. u kno. then have an option for State View and itll show all Your diffrent states or provinces in difrent colors. Then have actual governors and tell them What pacific wonders or projects you want done and theyll assign them to the city thatll produce it at the greatest speed. draft from the State rather than City this will help you out so u dont have to dig up cities with high enough pops to draft from. State Taxes, Ect. It makes it easy. set it up so 5 Connected Cities Become Colonies or Provinces and then 10 or more States, name them. ECT.
And continents need names. literally. Have it to where whoever explores the entire continent gets to name it or have it randomly name it liek america or europe
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that and it starts running a bit faster on my machine.
