Civilization Request Thread

SonofaRose said:
By double I meant an additional +1, only the war time ability was meant to be extended further from shore than the tiles immediately next to the city, provided that the city actually had managed to claim tiles farther into the sea of course!
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In that case, I think there are no problems with the UA. It does provide a nice boost during early game, although one might have to be mindful of Production, later on.

SonofaRose said:
Yes it seemed to be "more right" somehow, I guess, but thinking about it, it doesn't make much sense.. Especially now that I realized even bonuses from Statue of Zeus still apply to most modern units! Well that's what happens, you try to be "cool" and end up looking stupid and your ships will be weaker :lol:
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This is merely my opinion, but if you thought that was the right way to go about it, then it probably is. It's your rendition, after all.
 
Zantonius Hamm said:
@GPuzzle
Etruscans (Most recent)
The UA sounds like it may have too many effects, as the extra Cargo Ship alone is pretty powerful. If the defensive building bonus is only +1, it's probably ok, though.
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It's +1 for Castles and Walls, +2 for Arsenals and Military Bases.

I could get rid of the Cargo Ship, but it'd be just... meh, I guess. Maybe recieving a trade unit upon finishing Philosophy?
 
I've said it before and I've said it again, UAs with 3 sentences like that look really cluttered; its not the bonuses themselves that are the problem - there are just too many of them dude. What about this for a slight de-clutter?

UA: Dodecapoli
Defensive buildings provide :c5gold: Gold and :c5faith: Faith and provide a free Cargo Ship whenever one is built in the :c5capital: capital. For every :trade: trade route you have with a different civilisation, receive +2 :c5faith: faith.
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Agh, that looks awful to code! I'd have to detect wheter it was built in first place and if it was built in the capital, and then spawn a dummy building to supply it with Cargo Ships! No, thank you!
 
Mneh, whether you take the idea or not, the problem with your design is still there. I can't into coding so I don't know what's easy or not - but you still have to find a way to de-clutter the UA while keeping it easy enough to code.
 
GPuzzle said:
Agh, that looks awful to code! I'd have to detect wheter it was built in first place and if it was built in the capital, and then spawn a dummy building to supply it with Cargo Ships! No, thank you!
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It ain't hard bro

Code: 
function helloIamApotato(ownerId, cityId, buildingType, bGold, bFaithOrCulture)
	local player = Players[ownerId]
	local city = player:GetCityByID(cityId)
	if player:GetCivilizationType() == GameInfoTypes["CIVILIZATION_NAME"] then
		if city:IsCapital() then
			if buildingType == GameInfoTypes["BUILDING_WALLS"] or buildingType == GameInfoTypes["BUILDING_CASTLE"] or buildingType == GameInfoTypes["BUILDING_MILITARY_BASE"] then
				unit = player:InitUnit(GameInfoTypes["UNIT_CARGO_SHIP"], city:GetX(), city:GetY())
			end
		end
	end
end
GameEvents.CityConstructed.Add(helloIamApotato)

Although I haven't coded in a while, I might have made some mistake...

noticed a mistake lemme fix

doneth, PM me for errors
 
tfw no skill at Lua

Well, I better get started somewhere.
 
I'll post this here for the sake of posteriority...

Tsalmothua - Xytok
(start bias - Ice)
UA: The Coal Kingdoms - Cities gain a Food bonus when units are killed in their territory. Starts the game with Coal Revealed.
UU: Rocket - Replaces Cannon, +1 Range.
UB: Sunken Furnace - Replaces Stone Works. Requires 1 Coal. +10% Production in the City. +1 Production per Ice Tile within city radious.
 
tarcisiocm said:
Code: 
function helloIamApotato(ownerId, cityId, buildingType, bGold, bFaithOrCulture)
	local player = Players[ownerId]
	local city = player:GetCityByID(cityId)
	if player:GetCivilizationType() == GameInfoTypes["CIVILIZATION_NAME"] then
		if city:IsCapital() then
			if buildingType == GameInfoTypes["BUILDING_WALLS"] or buildingType == GameInfoTypes["BUILDING_CASTLE"] or buildingType == GameInfoTypes["BUILDING_MILITARY_BASE"] then
				unit = player:InitUnit(GameInfoTypes["UNIT_CARGO_SHIP"], city:GetX(), city:GetY())
			end
		end
	end
end
GameEvents.CityConstructed.Add(helloIamApotato)
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Wow, that is much easier than I thought.

I was going for something much more complicated: read the number of Defensive Buildings (max 4) in the capital, compare it to the current total of Dummy Buildings that spawn a Cargo Ship, check the difference (let's call it D), do a loop that spawns the Dummy Building D number of times and add D to the variable that stores Dummy Buildings.

Probably much more likely to be failsafe but it just would look ugly.
 
About the Etruscans- I had a completely different UA in mind:

Dodecapoli
:trade: trade routes you make to cities following your religion reduce :c5unhappy: unhappiness by 5%(up to 25%), and cities following your religion provide 10% less :c5unhappy: unhappiness. Cities founded on hills start with :c5tsrength: walls, and defensive buildings in them yield :c5faith: faith.
 
A couple of civilizations I'd like to see...

Italy - I'm surprised I could only find one Italy civilization mod, with Mussolini as leader. I'd like to see another Italy mod with someone like Garibaldi as leader.

The Iberians - There's a few other ancient Mediterranean and European modded civilizations, like the Goths, Gauls, Minoans, Phoenicians, Thracians and Garamantes. An Iberian civilization would be a nice addition.

I do believe the Iberians exist in an Ancient Mediterranean civilization pack for G&K but not for BNW ( https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=92186405&searchtext=iberian )
 
Trigan Emperor said:
A couple of civilizations I'd like to see...

Italy - I'm surprised I could only find one Italy civilization mod, with Mussolini as leader. I'd like to see another Italy mod with someone like Garibaldi as leader.

The Iberians - There's a few other ancient Mediterranean and European modded civilizations, like the Goths, Gauls, Minoans, Phoenicians, Thracians and Garamantes. An Iberian civilization would be a nice addition.

I do believe the Iberians exist in an Ancient Mediterranean civilization pack for G&K but not for BNW ( https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=92186405&searchtext=iberian )
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Italy

Iberians

Funny how no one ever notices my Iberian civ. Yeah, funny... :(
 
tarcisiocm said:
Italy

Iberians

Funny how no one ever notices my Iberian civ. Yeah, funny... :(
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Thanks for the links!

I'd seen the Sardinia-Piedmont civilization and I might use it.

I'd still like a more generic Italy, though. Using Sardinia-Piedmont to represent the Italian civilization is like using Prussia to represent the German civilization.

It's a surprising omission since one can play as England, Spain, Germany, France, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Austria in the vanilla game alone, so an Italy mod would fill a void. Yeah, there's the Romans and Venetians and some more as mods, but no Italy proper, Mussolini aside.

On the Iberians, that looks great and I will subscribe to it.

It didn't come up when I searched for it on Steam. I searched for the words 'iberia' and 'iberian'. I've double-checked and they don't lead to your mod, but the search for 'iberians' does. So I suggest that if you want to have the mod more locateable, then you put 'iberia' and 'iberian' in the descriptive text somewhere as Steam evidently doesn't have a great search engine.

Thanks again.
 
Perhaps I could create my own Italy civilization mod by combining bits from the others.

I could use the Victor Emmanuel II/The Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont mod as the basis (there are instructions with that mod for how to set up the civilization as the Kingdom of Italy).

Here are the leader/civilization traits/units for that mod:
Spoiler :

The Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont

Risorgimento

City-States under siege have a chance each turn to surrender without incurring a warmonger penalty from their capture. Accumulate Tourism in annexed City-States to spend on Military Units and Great People.

Alpini (Great War Infantry)

Unique Great War Infantry for Italy. Ignores terrain cost and has a combat bonus in friendly territory. May upgrade into a Garibaldino unit after earning at least 4 levels. Garibaldino units have a bonus vs cities, and may be expended for Tourism or City-State influence.

Piazzo (Garden)

15% of the Culture from World Wonders, Natural Wonders, and Improvements is added to the Tourism output of the city.

The Piazzo (Garden) looks good. Maybe I could try and set it that it can be built in every city, regardless of whether they're on a river/lake or not.

I'm wondering how the Risorgimento attribute would be handled by an AI player, and how effective it will be.

As for the Italian civilization unit, in the grand scheme of things, I think the Roman legion is the best and most notable fighting force that the people that have lived on the Italian Peninsula have produced. So I'll probably use that unit from the standard game instead of the Alpini. Probably give them the Ballista too.

Then I'd need to check the city names used in the Sardinia-Piedmont mod to see whether they used cities from all areas of Italy.

Given my limited modding ability, that's probably as much as I'd be able to manage to bring an Italy civilization mod into reality.

Would probably suit my needs, though.
 
Trigan Emperor said:
Perhaps I could create my own Italy civilization mod by combining bits from the others.

I could use the Victor Emmanuel II/The Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont mod as the basis (there are instructions with that mod for how to set up the civilization as the Kingdom of Italy).

Here are the leader/civilization traits/units for that mod:
Spoiler :

The Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont

Risorgimento

City-States under siege have a chance each turn to surrender without incurring a warmonger penalty from their capture. Accumulate Tourism in annexed City-States to spend on Military Units and Great People.

Alpini (Great War Infantry)

Unique Great War Infantry for Italy. Ignores terrain cost and has a combat bonus in friendly territory. May upgrade into a Garibaldino unit after earning at least 4 levels. Garibaldino units have a bonus vs cities, and may be expended for Tourism or City-State influence.

Piazzo (Garden)

15% of the Culture from World Wonders, Natural Wonders, and Improvements is added to the Tourism output of the city.

The Piazzo (Garden) looks good. Maybe I could try and set it that it can be built in every city, regardless of whether they're on a river/lake or not.

I'm wondering how the Risorgimento attribute would be handled by an AI player, and how effective it will be.

As for the Italian civilization unit, in the grand scheme of things, I think the Roman legion is the best and most notable fighting force that the people that have lived on the Italian Peninsula have produced. So I'll probably use that unit from the standard game instead of the Alpini. Probably give them the Ballista too.

Then I'd need to check the city names used in the Sardinia-Piedmont mod to see whether they used cities from all areas of Italy.

Given my limited modding ability, that's probably as much as I'd be able to manage to bring an Italy civilization mod into reality.

Would probably suit my needs, though.
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JFD made one Italy led by Mussolini, as well as Milan and the Papal States. Sukritact made Tuscany. There has never been "Italy" as a place until roughly the first World War, which the Sardinia-Piemont variant works, and in WW2 we already have it covered. I'm covering past Italy (well, the Etruscans specifically, but I could delve into the Italics), the Reinascence is already covered.
 
I think the main problem here is that the Community's been going on an efforth to de-blob civs so they aren't these odd mismatched civilizations that feature things from completly different periods and cultures, while Trigan Emperor's looking for that exact thing in his ideal Italy mod.
 
tarcisiocm said:
Our interest collide way too much it seems :p
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This forum is too small for both of us...

Duel at high noon?

Actually it might be better if we unite and stuff.
 
GPuzzle said:
JFD made one Italy led by Mussolini, as well as Milan and the Papal States. Sukritact made Tuscany. There has never been "Italy" as a place until roughly the first World War, which the Sardinia-Piemont variant works, and in WW2 we already have it covered. I'm covering past Italy (well, the Etruscans specifically, but I could delve into the Italics), the Reinascence is already covered.
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It's true that Italy as a single unified nation is relatively new, but the concept of Italian peoples is older.

The game already combines different eras within civilizations, such as Berserker and Norwegian Ski Infantry for the Danish or the Germans having Teutonic bonuses against barbarians (most useful in the early eras), along with Landsknechts (middle era) and Panzers (late era).

When I think of the Golden Ages of the Italian peoples I think of ancient Rome and it's military (and administrative) machine and I think of the Renaissance with it's many great people in many artistic, scientific and other fields.

So I think that combining the Roman units with some Great Person bonuses (along with some tourism increases) would work well for the Italian civilization.
 
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