MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
I think it would probably be better to have most of the civs enter the game late as older ones split apart--perhaps borrowing some mechanics from Rhye's.
As in the Eotheod coming into being from a Gondorian Fief?
Some specific scripting could make it very interesting to see things like the emergence of Dol Guldur (III 1050) and Moria(III 2480) as evil seeps into the world.
Edain Empire
Race: Good Men
Leaders: ???
Reason Edain is ??? is because I have NO idea who I want their leaders to be. Edain should also cover Numenor AND Gondor I think, and there are a lot of named kings for them.
Rohan and the Northmen COULD be combined as a singular Northmen civilization.
To add a bit, I actually like the idea of the Teleri, on random maps (the goal of this mod) I'd love taking the Teleri up against the Corsiars of Umbar. And interms of civs representing the servants of Sauron, I think Haradrim should definitely remain separate, but I like that Rhun isn't seperated from the Easterlings (I see this a lot)
Dunlendings could be merged with northmen, and separated from Rohan (I <3 Eorl, but there is a big difference between III 2500 Rohan and WotR Rohan.
I quite support hobbits not being a civ, they are a race of people who would rather drink tea than go to war... that being said, a SMAC style feature of 'the shire' with a few hobbit holes would be delicious.
see above...Simòn R;6777677 said:WHAT?! there's not any Hobbit civ?! ;_______; I know, they're not so useful but... but... well, they're the HOBBITS!! You cannot forget the Hobbits! é__è
Also: why use always the name "empire" for any Civ? For Rohan, or the Elvish and Dwarven civs "reign" could be better.
Simòn R;6777551 said:Well, first I think is Tùrin Turambar. Also his father Hurin is important. And... i'm mistaken or the Eorl House was friend of Elves in the First Age?
I think also Gondor, Arnor and Numenor must exist in each separate way. Maybe game can start only with the Edain civ, then in the Second Age one event can "gave one gift" at that civ in the form of a city in the Isle of Numenor; now the name could change in "Numenorean civ" or similar.
At the start of the third age, the Isle dead... cover itself with ruins or so. Always in the third age, Arnor and Gondor must be divided (another event?).
I know, all this is more similar to a Scenario that a Mod, but... I think is the only way to play "truly" about the Tolkien's works.
Also, some civs are, imho, very useless. Easterling Empire and Haradrim Empire can be united in one only civ, imho, called "black numenorean empire", or "pirates empire", or so. They only exist to aid Sauron in the War of the Ring.
The Avari civ is simply useless. Also the Teleri civ is not so important.
Also, is possible use the idea about the "civ-that-splitting-and-change-name" see in Rhye's and proposed over about the humans, for the Elves. Starting only with Noldor, and then split them at least in Thangorodrim reign and Thingol reign. Also Gondolin was kind, but it was only one city.
Following this idea, these reigns could changed in Rivendell and Lothlorien, with leaders change as well.
Good idea, but it was kind to manteain the "Rohan" name. It's affective matter.
Well, mine are only proposal. Not intent to offend any of you at all!
Noldor Empire
Race: Elves
Leaders: Fëanor, Fingolfin, Galadriel
Teleri Empire
Race: Elves
Leader: Olwë, Thingol, Círdan
Avari Empire
Race: Elves
Leader: [Made-up Elf]
Longbeard Empire
Race: Dwarves
Leader: Dúrin, Dàin
Firebeard Empire
Race: Dwarves
Leader: Azaghâl, Telchar
Edain Empire
Race: Good Men
Leaders: ???
Arnor Empire
Race: Good Men
Leaders: Isildur, Aragorn Elessar
Rohirrim Empire
Race: Good Men
Leaders: Eorl, Helm, Théoden
Northmen Empire
Race: Good Men
Leaders: Vidugavia, Bard
Dunlending Empire
Race: Evil Men / Orcs / Uruk-hai
Leaders: Freca, Saruman
Easterling Empire
Race: Evil Men
Leader: Khamûl
Haradrim Empire
Race: Evil Men
Leaders: Herumor
Angmar Empire
Race: Evil Men / Orcs
Leader: Ulfang, Witch King
The Shadow
Race: Orcs / Uruk-Hai / [much more!]
Leaders: Melkor, Sauron
one other thing: gandalf said sauron was just a legion or emissary.
and don't forget to read the hobbit if you havn't (its actually just a good book)