Clive2 - Random Monarch

[DBear]

0) 1650BC: Zulus have cut us off from Spices to the north. Our military is average compared to Zulus. Zulus won't trade IW. Plan is to build up military, then when we get writing, open an embassy with Dora and bribe her with tech to help out. Byzantines got a bad start, though. We have elephants, we should also be going for SoZ.

1) 1625: Curragh built, heads nw. Tiwanaku starts archers. Worker moves ne of Ollan to road. Plan to settle 3ne of Machu.

2) 1600: Worker starts chopping forest s of Machu to hurry settler along.

3) 1575: Nothing much happening. Curragh keeps heading nw, chasqui heads home from Byzantium,

4) 1550: Cuzco builds archer, starts settler. Tiwanaku riots, shift fisherman to scientist.

5) 1525: Workers cross river, chop forest. Zulus found Hlobane in nw jungle. My scout is going to have to go through Zulu lands to get back home. I send curragh on suicide run to w along sea lane.

6) 1500: Curragh sinks, Cuzco expands. Our military is weak!

7) 1475: Learn writing, start math. Let's get that SoZ. We need 5 gold to open an embassy with Byzantines.

8) 1450: Machu builds settler, starts spear. Whip Tiwanaku to get archer.

9) 1425: Cuzco builds settler, starts archer.

10) 1400: Cori built, starts spear.

Settler should move 1 square w, where archer is camped. We should have enough money to open an embassy with the Byzantines. Our military is equal to Zulus. Shaka's idea of a good trade is to offer 2 gold for writing, but polite about it.

 

[Sir Clive]

Here's the screenie

Revised roster

Noldodan (on deck)
Louis XXIV
Sir Clive
ChuckDizzle
DBear (just played)
YanksGiant87 (up)

 

[Sir Clive]

I'm a bit worried that 4 of our 5 cities are building military
but we only have a barracks in 1 city.

Obviously one can't help having to build a few regular units early on , but for me veterans have a big advantage over regulars.

How about building barracks in Tiwanaku and concerntrating military production in Tiwanaku and Cuzco ?

 

[Louis XXIV]

I agree. My suggestion is not to build Archers without Barracks, and you probably shouldn't build Spearmen without one either (I would just leave one Warrior for MP and prepare spears just to escort an Archer stack).

 

[ChuckDizzle]

ollantaytambo should be switched to barracks.

 

[Sir Clive]

YanksGiant - you're up !

As I said before I am not going to impose a strict 24hr 'gotit' / 48 'play', but I will assume if we don't hear anything at all within 48 hrs of the last player completing you will need a skip.

If we don't hear from you by midnight tomorrow (UK time) we'll move on to the next in the roster

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

lurker's comment: squeeze 3 more cities into the south and east. Build rax, not temples. 'ware the Impi

 

[DBear]

Usually I prefer to build barracks first myself, but I thought it best to maintain parity with the Zulus,

 

[viper275]

lurker's comment: Build barracks and not many temples (OT: this reminds me of Bede's Temple Rant, those from Clive1 probably remember it! If you're curious, click here .) Agree with AK on his advice. As soon as Ulundi is gone, settle a city up north to get spices.

Hopefully play another SG with you soon however I see you are playing well above Monarch at the moment so I will have to improce my game a bit before that happens

TY. Maybe when you make the Emperor jump...

BTW, good job on the start (the terrain is not that great), which I normally would not want to play (and getting an archipelago as the Inca... wow.)

 

[Louis XXIV]

Although I don't think Temples are a problem, they won't protect us from Zulu swordsmen.

 

[viper275]

lurker's comment: They aren't really problem, but that's 60 shields, or 3 archers/2 swords, so the shields are better spent on something else IMHO.

 

[Louis XXIV]

YanksGiant87 is up, right?

 

[ChuckDizzle]

Although I don't think Temples are a problem, they won't protect us from Zulu swordsmen.

Good "point." Sorry, bad pun.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Its been almost 48 hours since the save was last played...

 

[Sir Clive]

YanksGiant87 is up, right?

Yes - I posted last night that if he didn't issue a 'got it' by midnight UK time
tonight then we would skip him .

Noldodan - can you play soon if YanksGiant87 doesn't respond in the next couple of hours ?

Noldodan (on deck)
Louis XXIV
Sir Clive
ChuckDizzle
DBear (just played)
YanksGiant87 (up)

 

[Noldodan]

I'll play. Just say when.

EDIT: Got it. Playing now.

 

[Sir Clive]

OK - I don't want this to grind to a halt so let's skip YanksGiant87.

Go for it Noldodan

If he reappears in the next day or so we'll swap Noldodan and YanksGiant
over in the Roster so that YanksGiant is up next

Revised roster

Noldodan (up)
Louis XXIV (on deck unless YanksGiant re-appears in the next 24hrs)
Sir Clive
ChuckDizzle
DBear (just played)
YanksGiant87 (skipped)

 

[Sir Clive]

lurker's comment: Build barracks and not many temples (OT: this reminds me of Bede's Temple Rant, those from Clive1 probably remember it! If you're curious, click here .) Agree with AK on his advice. As soon as Ulundi is gone, settle a city up north to get spices.

Yes , we had good advice from Bede on Temples. If I need culture buildings I now always try to build libraries if I can . The culture and science you get from a library is far far better value for money than that from a temple IMHO.

 

[Noldodan]

Preturn - Tiwanaku changed to Barracks. Ollyantaytambo changed to Barracks.
IBT: Zulu Scout moves into our territory.
Turn 1 - Settler moved West. Lux upped to prevent rioting in Tiwanaku.
IBT: Scout moves.
Turn 2 - Pelargir founded on Archer tile. Barracks began.
IBT: Scout moves.
Turn 3 - Began irrigating wheat on flood plain. Why didn't anybody do that before?
IBT: Scout is almost out of our territory...
Turn 4 - Cuzco builds Archer, starts another.
IBT: Zulu scout finally moves back to its own territory. Chichen Itza builds The Oracle.
Turn 5 - Nothing of note.
IBT: See above.
Turn 6 - Troop buildup begins in Ollantaytambo. Tiwanaku looks to be rioting, I raise Lux to 20%.
IBT: Nothing.
Turn 7 - Machu Picchu builds Spearman, begins Barracks.
IBT: Nothing.
Turn 8 - Cuzco builds Archer, begins another. Tiwanaku builds Barracks, begins Settler.
IBT: Nothing.
Turn 9 - Math researched, Philosophy begun.
IBT: Byzantines found Nicaea.
Turn 10 - Nothing.

Notes: Zulus will trade IW and 10 gold for Writing and Math. Just thought you'd like to know. This buildup's gonna take a while, too.

 

[viper275]

The save?