Come on already, Iran!

[Azadre]

ummm did you forget about the 50 americans taken hostage from the embassy in Iran? The recently captured american that the extremists plan to execute if the US doesn't release certain muslims in prison? Al-queda's attack on the world trade center because american had troups in Saudi Arabia? The first attack in 1991 on the WTC because of America's ties with Isreal? It all smells like blackmail to me. One thing I hope these extremists will understand one day is Americans do not cave in to blackmail, it just pisses us off more.

The hostage was the people of Iran more than the government,
The captured Americans have absolutely nothing to do with Iran.
Again, nothing to do with Iran.
Again, NTDWI
You might want to get your suspects correct before making claims.

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

Anyone trusting Iran right now is not doing so because they are naieve and are open to changing their minds. They are doing it because they view aiding Iran is in their best interest (mostly because it harms the United States) and will continue to be Iranian apologists regardless of the facts.

Iran would be seen as "the next country on the list" if the US didn't even try to play through the international process first. Iraq was no threat to anyone. An Iran exposed as agressively seeking nuclear arms would turn a few heads.

 

[SeleucusNicator]

That's why you get the international community to help fund and build it. If we make nuclear energy a worldwide cooperative program the results will be beneficial!

Beneficial to whom?

 

[KaNick]

I take it you heroes will be on the frontline, supporting your nation as soldiers?

Or will you be armchair warriors, ducking for cover?

Notice the question was ignored.

 

[Azadre]

Israel has already hinted they might need "neutralize" Bushehr and other installations. Unfortunately for you, I can't be bothered to find an article about it ATM.

I believe Israel is not in the position to do this. Besides, Israel would be bringing on its own destruction :suicide:

 

[SeleucusNicator]

I believe Israel is not in the position to do this.

Sure it is. The Israelis have planes that could reach Iran, strike down any opposing aircraft, and bomb the target facility, and then return.

Iran would have little means of retaliation beyond the funding and weapons it is already giving to Hezbullah.

 

[Azadre]

Sure it is. The Israelis have planes that could reach Iran, strike down any opposing aircraft, and bomb the target facility, and then return.

Iran would have little means of retaliation beyond the funding and weapons it is already giving to Hezbullah.

Actually Israel isn't in the position.

 

[SeleucusNicator]

Actually Israel isn't in the position.

Are you a parrot or are you going to back up your statements instead of just repeating them?

 

[shadowdude]

I take it you heroes will be on the frontline, supporting your nation as soldiers?

Or will you be armchair warriors, ducking for cover?

Neither, If I had my choice I'd be a remote recon pilot

 

[KaNick]

So when do you plan to enlist?

 

[The Last Conformist]

Exactly why do you think it would be suicide for the Israelis? I don't exactly see anyone rushing to Iran's defense, especially not with a big American presence in the region.

 

[Perfection]

And that would be different from IAEA and associated treaties how?

Numerous ways. First off, it will fund and encourage nuclear growth. Second off, it's not inspectors that go through the facilities every once in awhile it's a constant international presence. Third, we invite the Iranians and other countries developing nuclear energy to take leadership roles and be a part of it. Fourth, we apply it to all nuclear powers, not just Iran but every other country.

Beneficial to whom?

Everyone, Iran get's nuclear energy and increased respectability without developing nuclear weapons as well as cheap electricity. Everyone else gets increased international stability, lower fossil fuel prices, and a cleaner environment.

 

[Azadre]

Are you a parrot or are you going to back up your statements instead of just repeating them?

Well, Iran's Minister of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics Rear Admiral Ali Shamkhani Wednesday dismissed the possibility of Israel launching a military attack on Iran nuclear facilities and said that "Israel is too vulnerable to materialize its threat."

Speaking to reporters at the end of the cabinet meeting, in response to a query raised on Israel's threat to attack Iran, he replied that it is impractical.

"The world's silence on Israel's growing threats and the hostile approach of Israel Premier Sharon is open to question," he added, according to Irna. (Albawaba.com)

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

Using the Israelis has worked in the past and may be an option if we continue to be bogged down in Georgie Boy's little Mesopotamian Adventure. They have aircraft that could easily strike suspected Iranian targets.

It is one thing for the Israelis to fly a mission over Jordan to relatively close Iraq, but it is another to fly a bombing mission all the way to Iran. It would involve evading much more in terms of anti-air defence, as well as mid-air refuelling, which leaves them even more vulnerable, and presents larger, less maneuverable targets for the Iranians. I doubt the Israelis would do it. This one would have to be done by the Americans in Iraq.

 

[shadowdude]

So when do you plan to enlist?

Actually going back to the original statement

I'm getting pretty excited about bombing Iran's nuclear program

It wouldn't take soldiers to bomb their program, it would only take a few well placed cruise missles. That way no one would need to enlist!

 

[El Sop]

Everyone, Iran get's nuclear energy and increased respectability without developing nuclear weapons as well as cheap electricity.

Why don't they just burn their 262,790 million barrels of proven oil reserves (www.opec.org) to get their cheap electricity?

 

[KaNick]

I'm only pushing this because I believe that anyone that is pro war should have to enlist or have already served.

 

[SeleucusNicator]

Well, Iran's Minister of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics Rear Admiral Ali Shamkhani Wednesday dismissed the possibility of Israel launching a military attack on Iran nuclear facilities and said that "Israel is too vulnerable to materialize its threat."

Speaking to reporters at the end of the cabinet meeting, in response to a query raised on Israel's threat to attack Iran, he replied that it is impractical.

"The world's silence on Israel's growing threats and the hostile approach of Israel Premier Sharon is open to question," he added, according to Irna. (Albawaba.com)

Ah, yes, the unbiased voice of objectivity on Iranian affairs that is the Iranian government. Good source.

The argument here seems to be that Israel would open itself to international criticism by striking against Iran. This argument neatly ignores the fact that the world is already condemning Israel almost to a nation. Were it not for the American veto, the United Nations would be little more than an "Anti-Israeli Resolution of the Month" club. Israel has already demonstrated that international criticism will never stand in its way on matters of national security. Its answer to this is no different on the Iranian question.

 

[amadeus]

Azadre...I was going to answer this, but I can't get over that avatar and signature combination.

What's with that?

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

And served doesn't mean joining the Texas National Guard, then going AWOL