communism

[dh_epic]

Absolutely. Singapore is another great example of a place with lots of economic freedom, but not very much political / social freedom.

 

[Commander Bello]

Do you know any definitions for Democracy, Communism, Republic? What's the difference?

The USA have the republic and the democratic party. But those 2 words mean pretty much the same thing, one in latin and one in greek. They both practise democracy.

Republic (from Latin res publica = public interest / concern) for me seems to be a description of the form of state, while Democracy (from Greek demos kratein = rule of the people) describes how the sovereign (aka the people) makes up his mind.
As I understand it, most of today's Republics are parlamentarian Democracies, that is, the people vote for their representatives to sit in the parliament. So, these are more or less indirect democracies. Plebiscitarian (??? - making use of plebiscites) elements as referendums would add directly democratic elements to such a state.

 

[Pentium]

Many countries even have their official names like: Democratic Republic of <name>.

 

[sir_schwick]

The People's Republic of China
The Democratic Republic of Congo
Democratic People's Republic of Korea

 

[Commander Bello]

Unfortunately, it seems to be a pattern that exactly the states which claim to be republican AND democratic just aren't.

 

[Albow]

or that have parties named as such

My comment, look at SMAC (alpha centauri) - it has a kick a$$ model for govt type, economy etc etc, letting you 'make' a whole bunch of different types of systems, each with their own advantage and disadvantage ... would also be happy with sliders etc (as I think is proposed in civics?)

 

[sir_schwick]

My comment, look at SMAC (alpha centauri) - it has a kick a$$ model for govt type, economy etc etc, letting you 'make' a whole bunch of different types of systems, each with their own advantage and disadvantage ... would also be happy with sliders etc (as I think is proposed in civics?)

Firaxis: Its Brian Reynolds, RUN!

 

[Chazbagel]

Communism should have much more serious happiness problems, without a secret police organisation (SPHQ) wonder.

They DO have a secret police wonder.

 

[searcheagle]

They DO have a secret police wonder.

I read that as the poster wanting civ to get rid of secret police wonder.

 

[Albow]

Sir Schwick:

Wha?

I can asure you that I receive no royalties from SMAC sales ...

 

[sir_schwick]

I can asure you that I receive no royalties from SMAC sales ...

A little office humor, if CFC is an office and we are its employees. Okay, bad example.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Well I really think something like the SMAC system could work well
For example:
For each City's (Not Civ's) Government choose

1. Level of autonomy
United, Vassal, Autonomous, Protectorate [Default, Transitional]
2. Basic organizing principle
Republic, Monarchy, Feudal, [Default, Transitional]
3. Governmental ideology
Democratic, Communistic, Fascist, [Default, Transitional]

(2+3 are just showing how it would adapt to C3C)

If each of those 'options' was combinable ie had all the options all the others did, then it could be easy to mod and should work well

 

[sir_schwick]

FYI, I would like to see something inspired by the SMAC system in Civ.

 

[dh_epic]

I'm with schwick.

 

[New World Order]

The Soviet revolution of Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin was a Bolshevest movement - the peasants and such. Very segretorial, and extremly bloody. They essentially had too many bullets, and not enough people if you can catch my drift.

There were many different groups fighting each other, including anarchists during the formation of U.S.S.R. Not sure if it was considered Marxist-Lenin socialism or whatever, I just know Stalin took power from Lenin, and it was considered a Bolshevic uprising.

In the U.S., (a Republic) there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans, just ask Dick Cheany what he thinks about it.

China and North Korea are Republics, but they more closly resemble socialist marxism (form of autocracy) or whatever fancy name you throw at it. In fact, they are called: The Peoples Republic of China, and the Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea: interesting names, huh?

 

[mhIdA]

Modern democracies, more in US due financial party system and lobbies could be more correct called as Oligarchic Democracies or in somehow Corporative Democracies, but that related us to fascism.
A time-degradiation/improvement is also a good due the idealism that people have when governmental changes happens.
Change in goernments could be tied to stage of economic development of a civ, ideas spread on society (civics), autonomy of others nationalities in a civ, factions which is related somehow with Confederates in US (Sclavagism could be also a type of government).
Aside that the dieferents types of governments could be reflected more in diplomacy, since many europeans countries become fascists due communism in USSR. And this relate us to an ideological era with several types of governments fight for supremacy. Something who really happens and someone called the 3 punic wars of US: first against the sclavagists Confederates in American Civil War, second in WW2 against nazi/fascist and third the Cold War against Communism.

 

[Mîtiu Ioan]

(Sclavagism could be also a type of government).

I would rather see this as a "possible policy" to choose ... but of course this is because of may SMAC-style ideas.

Aside that the dieferents types of governments could be reflected more in diplomacy, since many europeans countries become fascists due communism in USSR. And this relate us to an ideological era with several types of governments fight for supremacy. Something who really happens and someone called the 3 punic wars of US: first against the sclavagists Confederates in American Civil War, second in WW2 against nazi/fascist and third the Cold War against Communism.

Ha !! Interesting !!

Regards