Community Project: DoC Wiki

[Leoreth]

I never properly announced this, and only mentioned it in the updated guide in the Welcome thread that probably not everyone noticed, but as a side effect of using Github, we also have a Wiki for DoC now.

It's here.

I won't have much time to contribute there, but everyone else is hereby formally invited to do so. Subjects I could imagine for the wiki:

• Version changelogs (this is mostly a paste and formatting job)
• Civilization descriptions
• Strategy guides (e.g. UHVs, URVs ...)
• Articles on DoC specific mechanics such as conquerors, slaves, culture spread, stability ..

You can of course always migrate material that exists elsewhere (civilopedia, forum posts). You don't need my permission to make changes there, just go ahead and do it. I created this thread mainly to create attention and channel our efforts, but you can also use it to exchange ideas for content subjects etc. I will only intervene if anything comes up that requires my attention.

Looking forward to all contributions!

 

[MechatronicJazz]

I tried adding a page with civilization info, but every time I try to save the page I get an error. Is this a problem on my end or do the permissions need to be tweaked?

 

[Leoreth]

Could be. Does the error say anything specific?

 

[MechatronicJazz]

When I first go to the wiki page and go to create a page, it lets me start making a page, but I get an "Unable to save page" error at the top when I try to save the changes. If I come back to the home page after that, clicking on the create page button give me a 404 not found error.

 

[Leoreth]

Can anyone confirm this? I can only restrict access further and the default should be public access for everyone.

 

[Panopticon]

It worked fine for me.

 

[MechatronicJazz]

Thanks for checking. It must be a problem on my end.

And now it's working. Well, I'm not going to complain.

And it's broken again. I've contacted GitHub support.

 

[MechatronicJazz]

I've started creating a skeleton for the wiki. There should now be pages for all listed civs with formatted sections, though most still have no content. I've started linking to these pages from the main Civilization page and eventually I think all the info, expect maybe some very basic stuff, should be migrated off that page and to their respective civ pages. There's a section for strategies on each civ page, so please add yours if want to share!

 

[MechatronicJazz]

Also, epgquota, I moved your brief, but amusing Brazil UHV page into the Brazil page. I hope you don't mind! Feel free to undo the change if you like.

 

[Leoreth]

Great, thanks. Good to see this take shape.

 

[cudfather]

Could this Git wiki be somehow linked or merged with the Civilopedia in-mod? That way we could pull its current contents, edit it and you could merge it when there's new content. Surely this way it would be easier for most people to edit it.

 

[Leoreth]

Do you mean Civilopedia -> Wiki or Wiki -> Civilopedia?

Civilopedia entries are generated at runtime from game data. I'm sure there's a script to convert that into some barebones text that can be formatted further to look good on the wiki. Other than that, the formats are too different to be really converted into each other, for instance tables of content and hyperlinking and all the other wiki stuff is hard to auto generate.

If anyone is interested in doing that, I suggest looking into the code that draws the civilopedia screen and writing the raw text to file instead.

Wiki -> civilopedia is harder to automate because Civ4 does stuff using XML tags. But we can still use the Wiki to exchange text, e.g. someone could write a description for a unit and it can later manually be pasted into the description XML tag.

 

[Panopticon]

Also, epgquota, I moved your brief, but amusing Brazil UHV page into the Brazil page. I hope you don't mind! Feel free to undo the change if you like.

LOL. It was just a test page to see if the wiki could be edited when other users were having trouble.

 

[MechatronicJazz]

I'm adding a victory conditions page. Are all the victories active? Can you win a diplomatic or space race victory?

 

[Leoreth]

Of course.

 

[TsarAndreas]

Did this ever get off the ground?

After finally getting round to finding out the relative impacts of luxury resources, I like the idea of being able to access an online civilopedia.

I’ve just tried the link at the top of the page but the github looks incomplete.

 

[Leoreth]

Doesn't that answer your question?

 

[TsarAndreas]

Haha, I guess it does. I just wasn’t sure I was looking in the right place.

 

[Leoreth]

No, that's the right place. A wiki is only ever as good as the amount of work people put into it. Unfortunately it never really took off.

 

[BaneFire]

Multiple sources of info inevitably end up being a bad idea. Maybe there could be some way for information to be added more often to the civilopedia so it's more accessible? Like a thread on the forum and good comments get added every few github pushes or so.