conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
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grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
good set 
looks like spain is getting pushed back nicely. any chance to cut off her rubber?
looks like spain is getting pushed back nicely. any chance to cut off her rubber?
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
Also we are average in Military vs spain now. I guess my massacre of the spanish troops in our land helped that.
denyd
Emperor
Very nice work Conebead234 
Great job of trading and then getting Spain to get us off the hook for that gpt - I agree getting oil is a priority and it would be nice to cut off Spain's rubber
If we could just do something about China, we could win this.
Great job of trading and then getting Spain to get us off the hook for that gpt - I agree getting oil is a priority and it would be nice to cut off Spain's rubber
If we could just do something about China, we could win this.
conehead the warhead
"Just reliezed that china has over 18000 gold."
We have to get them involved in wars on their own continent, preferably all against them!
My turns? I can start it and be done in 2 days if you care to wait that long?
Only 2 more days of work, but I'm free for a couple of hrs a day to figure this out.
I didn't want any thinking when I have a heavy schedule, and still I finished GOTM with Histographic. Talk about hypocracy
"Just reliezed that china has over 18000 gold."
We have to get them involved in wars on their own continent, preferably all against them!
My turns? I can start it and be done in 2 days if you care to wait that long?
Only 2 more days of work, but I'm free for a couple of hrs a day to figure this out.
I didn't want any thinking when I have a heavy schedule, and still I finished GOTM with Histographic. Talk about hypocracy
But that was Zwinglis trading then, anyway...
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
I am is no hurry. Gozpel you can play.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
probably wouldn't have happened on emperor, that's why you got to love deityOriginally posted by gozpel
England declares on us, alliance with Aztecs
I saved after the first turn, so I can get some sleep. Can't concentrate after a full days work and then 3hrs of evening classes. It will be the same tomorrow, but then at least the rest of the week will be free (I hope) and tomorrow I will get me some beers to cheer this week off!
We are still alive and kicking anyways and I look forward to figure out how to deal with a 2-front war with a miniature army
We actually have more arties then cavs, or very close to that estimate. I will call that denyd's curse (or blessing) depending on how the wars turns out
We are still alive and kicking anyways and I look forward to figure out how to deal with a 2-front war with a miniature army
We actually have more arties then cavs, or very close to that estimate. I will call that denyd's curse (or blessing) depending on how the wars turns out
The Save
Pre-turn - Looking good. Rush some barracks and cavs.
Move a knight-army to Elche to protect the hurt cavs.
1240AD - IT - England sign alliance with Aztecs against us! They also declare on Arabs and Chinese!?
England steal a whole bunch of workers, but fail to take any cities, our infantry fight like madmen. What an interesting start!
They must have stolen over a dozen workers, they will pay dearly for that!
Major warweariness, how stupid, english citizens complain about "stop the aggression against our mother country", I didn't break any treaties! And wasn't the aggressor. Ah well. Luxtax 10% and lots of MM.
Kill off 6 english cavs.
Am I glad or what I rushed those cavs? Build a new cav-army.
Use a lot of artilleries to hurt a few offending english units in the north and kill them off.
Birmingham is undefended and will be taken next turn.
1250AD - England takes Birmingham.
We take Elche. Kill a couple of spanish infantry.
WW is worse, takes a while to fix that
1255 - IT - England and Egypt sign alliance against China.
Kill off 7 spanish infantry
I have to use our economy to get troops and rushbuy as many cavs as I can.
1260AD - 2 english cavs attacks Dover, one immortal dies the other defends.
We take Salamanca
1265AD - We build Pentagon in Pasgadae.
Arabs sign peace with Spain.
WW is higher and luxes up to 30% and some former Emglish cities set on starving diet.
I would like peace with Spain too, but we have an alliance with China and pay 4 gpt.
We kill half a dozen of spanish infantry and a couple of english troops.
I decide its time to finish English off. We do this by just defending against Spain and concentrate on the northern front.
Bombard Nottingham with 20 arties, 15 of them miss. Great!
But we take the city.
The English cities always flipped on us, so starve them to 1 pop.
1270AD - Kill some units
1275AD - As above. Rushbuy more cavs.
1280AD - Bombard Coventry with 15 arties. Attack with armies, the second army drop dead against a 1hp infantry. Sometime you have to love the RNG.
We take the city.
1285AD - Move artillery stack to bombard London next turn.
Pillage Englands horses, their cavs are so annoying.
Drop off 2 infantries to pillage their rubber too.
Peace with Aztecs for 39g
Sell iron to Egypt for 14 gpt and some gold
England knows Combustion, but won't give it up for peace. China would sell it for 180 gpt or so.
More warweariness, 60% in some cities We have to endure that and take out England for good.
1290AD - Gems deal with China expires, renew it for incense.
Thought I fixed the WW, several cities riots.
England has no more rubber.
Bombard lots of spanish infantry near Ellipi.
Bombard London with 17 arties, there are 4 infantries in the city.
We have a stack that can take the city next turn, after another round of bombardment.
Without horses and rubber, England should be history soon.
Manage the warweariness, raise luxtax if necessary, we can't stop now.
Pre-turn - Looking good. Rush some barracks and cavs.
Move a knight-army to Elche to protect the hurt cavs.
1240AD - IT - England sign alliance with Aztecs against us! They also declare on Arabs and Chinese!?
England steal a whole bunch of workers, but fail to take any cities, our infantry fight like madmen. What an interesting start!
They must have stolen over a dozen workers, they will pay dearly for that!
Major warweariness, how stupid, english citizens complain about "stop the aggression against our mother country", I didn't break any treaties! And wasn't the aggressor. Ah well. Luxtax 10% and lots of MM.
Kill off 6 english cavs.
Am I glad or what I rushed those cavs? Build a new cav-army.
Use a lot of artilleries to hurt a few offending english units in the north and kill them off.
Birmingham is undefended and will be taken next turn.
1250AD - England takes Birmingham.
We take Elche. Kill a couple of spanish infantry.
WW is worse, takes a while to fix that
1255 - IT - England and Egypt sign alliance against China.
Kill off 7 spanish infantry
I have to use our economy to get troops and rushbuy as many cavs as I can.
1260AD - 2 english cavs attacks Dover, one immortal dies the other defends.
We take Salamanca
1265AD - We build Pentagon in Pasgadae.
Arabs sign peace with Spain.
WW is higher and luxes up to 30% and some former Emglish cities set on starving diet.
I would like peace with Spain too, but we have an alliance with China and pay 4 gpt.
We kill half a dozen of spanish infantry and a couple of english troops.
I decide its time to finish English off. We do this by just defending against Spain and concentrate on the northern front.
Bombard Nottingham with 20 arties, 15 of them miss. Great!
But we take the city.
The English cities always flipped on us, so starve them to 1 pop.
1270AD - Kill some units
1275AD - As above. Rushbuy more cavs.
1280AD - Bombard Coventry with 15 arties. Attack with armies, the second army drop dead against a 1hp infantry. Sometime you have to love the RNG.
We take the city.
1285AD - Move artillery stack to bombard London next turn.
Pillage Englands horses, their cavs are so annoying.
Drop off 2 infantries to pillage their rubber too.
Peace with Aztecs for 39g
Sell iron to Egypt for 14 gpt and some gold
England knows Combustion, but won't give it up for peace. China would sell it for 180 gpt or so.
More warweariness, 60% in some cities
We have to endure that and take out England for good.1290AD - Gems deal with China expires, renew it for incense.
Thought I fixed the WW, several cities riots.
England has no more rubber.
Bombard lots of spanish infantry near Ellipi.
Bombard London with 17 arties, there are 4 infantries in the city.
We have a stack that can take the city next turn, after another round of bombardment.
Without horses and rubber, England should be history soon.
Manage the warweariness, raise luxtax if necessary, we can't stop now.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
whoa mama, have we got a game on or what 
conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
Looks good. Did we get the oil yet?
denyd
Emperor
Looks like that puts me up again - I've got it and will play tonight
Sounds like it's time to send Elizabeth to the sidelines so we can concentrate on Isabella
Let's hope China waits a bit (hopefully they'll switch to Communism soon to slow down their tech).
Sounds like it's time to send Elizabeth to the sidelines so we can concentrate on Isabella
Let's hope China waits a bit (hopefully they'll switch to Communism soon to slow down their tech).
denyd
Emperor
THE SAVE
Turn Log 6
Turn 0 1290 AD Reset personal preferences Move a couple of units around to balance the defense Put a couple of cities on starvation diets
IBT: A Spanish infantryman dies attacking us Spanish Frigates bomb our coastline English infantry move past our units
Persepolis Cavalry->Infantry
Turn 1 1295 AD Artillery bombards London to size 7 and wounds all defenders Mixed Army takes 10 hits but kills Vet Infantry 4 Cavalry die taking London w/Oracle Trade Coal + Saltpeter + Dyes + Incense to Aztecs for Espionage Switch Persepolis to Intelligence Agency
IBT: The usual Spanish bombardment Wounded Spanish infantry retreats England comes calling (shes got combustion), but makes not valid offer English troops move towards London - London riots Ur Cavalry->Factory Coventry flips Arbela Cavalry->Infantry
Turn 2 1300 AD Artillery wounds all English troops on our lands Artillery redlines Spanish Infantry on our Rubber - Cavalry kills that Spanish Infantry Coventry taken for loss of 1 cavalry Switch Ecomomy to Mobilization
IBT: Chinese sink English invasion fleet (3 ships) English Infantry kills a wounded Cavalry Army Canterbury cavalry->infantry Pasagarde army->army Susa cavalry->infantry
Turn 3 1305 AD Wound Spanish troops with artillery Livepool bombardment kills 1 citizen and wounds 2 infantry (12 shots) - Kill a conscript Infantry by Salmanca Lose 2 cavalry killing 4 wounded English Infantry near London
IBT: Arabs & China sign against Egypt (Arabs declare) Egypt & China sign peace (there goes Maos rep) Egypt & Spain sign against England (Egypt declares) Wounded English & Spanish troops head home Eridu infantry->infantry Richmond infantry->infantry Cambridge riots
Turn 4 1310 AD End MA with China vs Spain (accidentally cancel the rubber deal) Trade Rubber to China for 2325g Peace with Spain getting Santander + Logrono + 41g + 20gpt Spend 2349g to carefully steal Combustion from China Sell Silks to Spain for 10gpt Artillery much better, reduces Liverpool to size 8, destroys 6 improvements and wounds 3 infantry (no 30 in the stack) Spend 1515g to steal Mass Production from China (a lucky gamble) Sell Saltpeter to Egypt for 242g + WM Sell Rubber to Arabia for 376g + WM
IBT: Lots of Spanish troops heading for England Warwick Infantry->factory
Turn 5 1315 AD Liverpool bombarded to size 1 and all troops redlined Liverpool taken for loss of 1 cavalry (cavalry army is wounded though) 4 English infantry killed for loses of 3 cavalry near London Trade Steel + Espionage + Refining + Coal to Egypt for Atomic Theory
IBT: Spanish infantry begin the slow march to England England & Arabia sign peace English infantry moving into our lands Arbela infantry->artillery
Turn 6 1320 AD Wound most of the English infantry in our lands bomb Hastings down from 17 to 14 and destroy 3 improvements - Mao has just entered the Modern Age
IBT: English troops (mostly infantry) heading north English troops retreat to heal Susa infantry->factory just notice we arent mobilized any longer Dover riots
Turn 7 1325 AD Hastings bombed to size 7 and 3 improvements destroyed Immortal dies attacking redlined Guerilla Elite Cavalry revenges Immortal Might have enough next turn for safe steal attempt
IBT: Arabs ask for alliance vs Aztecs, but I pass The usual Spanish ant brigade north wounded English head home to heal Persepolis builds Intelligence Agency starts Hospital Pasagarde Army->Hospital Samarria Infantry->Aqueduct Zarquim infantry->aqueduct lose wine supply
Turn 8 1330 AD Successfully bombard Hastings to size 7 and redline the infantry Hastings taken with no losses Spend 2425g to steal Electronics from China (safety steal) trade Electronics to Egypt for Wines + 31gpt + 110g + WM
IBT: Trade Silks + 30g to China for Ivory 2 workers captured by English infantry Hastings riots Canterbury infantry->hospital Leeds Infantry->marketplace Leiciester riots
Turn 9 1335 AD Setup troops for assault on Newcastle
IBT: Arabs & Aztecs sign peace Chinese sinks an English transport heading our way The Spanish infantry continues to march north Ninevah infantry->marketplace Pasagarde hospital->hydro plant Arbela artillery->hospital Eridu infantry->commercial dock Richmond infantry->factory Our spy caught England trying to steal our map
Turn 10 1340 AD Artillery reduces Newcastle from size 11 to 1 and wounds the infantry defenders, but there are at least 4 2-hit left infantry in Newcastle, so I defer to the next player for the assault After Newcastle is taken, the capital should shift to Dover once Dover is taken, you might able to trade peace for the remaining 2 cities. War weariness is becoming a problem. It seems to be faster to steal techs from China than to research them I saved the GL in case our MA bonus tech has a wonder with it. Once the English war is over (one way or another), let WW die down and then declare on China we should be able to get the rest of the AI to join in dog pile using the techs we have that would force China to communism belay that, I just checked and Spain is Monarchy and the rest are already in communism. Once weve stolen our way to even with China, its time to turn research back on. I started adding infrastructure my last couple of turns in anticipation of that. Ive got a couple of hospitals going hoping to get battlefield medicine.
Ill post more comments over the weekend.
Here is what's left of England
Turn Log 6
Turn 0 1290 AD Reset personal preferences Move a couple of units around to balance the defense Put a couple of cities on starvation diets
IBT: A Spanish infantryman dies attacking us Spanish Frigates bomb our coastline English infantry move past our units
Persepolis Cavalry->Infantry
Turn 1 1295 AD Artillery bombards London to size 7 and wounds all defenders Mixed Army takes 10 hits but kills Vet Infantry 4 Cavalry die taking London w/Oracle Trade Coal + Saltpeter + Dyes + Incense to Aztecs for Espionage Switch Persepolis to Intelligence Agency
IBT: The usual Spanish bombardment Wounded Spanish infantry retreats England comes calling (shes got combustion), but makes not valid offer English troops move towards London - London riots Ur Cavalry->Factory Coventry flips Arbela Cavalry->Infantry
Turn 2 1300 AD Artillery wounds all English troops on our lands Artillery redlines Spanish Infantry on our Rubber - Cavalry kills that Spanish Infantry Coventry taken for loss of 1 cavalry Switch Ecomomy to Mobilization
IBT: Chinese sink English invasion fleet (3 ships) English Infantry kills a wounded Cavalry Army Canterbury cavalry->infantry Pasagarde army->army Susa cavalry->infantry
Turn 3 1305 AD Wound Spanish troops with artillery Livepool bombardment kills 1 citizen and wounds 2 infantry (12 shots) - Kill a conscript Infantry by Salmanca Lose 2 cavalry killing 4 wounded English Infantry near London
IBT: Arabs & China sign against Egypt (Arabs declare) Egypt & China sign peace (there goes Maos rep) Egypt & Spain sign against England (Egypt declares) Wounded English & Spanish troops head home Eridu infantry->infantry Richmond infantry->infantry Cambridge riots
Turn 4 1310 AD End MA with China vs Spain (accidentally cancel the rubber deal) Trade Rubber to China for 2325g Peace with Spain getting Santander + Logrono + 41g + 20gpt Spend 2349g to carefully steal Combustion from China Sell Silks to Spain for 10gpt Artillery much better, reduces Liverpool to size 8, destroys 6 improvements and wounds 3 infantry (no 30 in the stack) Spend 1515g to steal Mass Production from China (a lucky gamble) Sell Saltpeter to Egypt for 242g + WM Sell Rubber to Arabia for 376g + WM
IBT: Lots of Spanish troops heading for England Warwick Infantry->factory
Turn 5 1315 AD Liverpool bombarded to size 1 and all troops redlined Liverpool taken for loss of 1 cavalry (cavalry army is wounded though) 4 English infantry killed for loses of 3 cavalry near London Trade Steel + Espionage + Refining + Coal to Egypt for Atomic Theory
IBT: Spanish infantry begin the slow march to England England & Arabia sign peace English infantry moving into our lands Arbela infantry->artillery
Turn 6 1320 AD Wound most of the English infantry in our lands bomb Hastings down from 17 to 14 and destroy 3 improvements - Mao has just entered the Modern Age
IBT: English troops (mostly infantry) heading north English troops retreat to heal Susa infantry->factory just notice we arent mobilized any longer Dover riots
Turn 7 1325 AD Hastings bombed to size 7 and 3 improvements destroyed Immortal dies attacking redlined Guerilla Elite Cavalry revenges Immortal Might have enough next turn for safe steal attempt
IBT: Arabs ask for alliance vs Aztecs, but I pass The usual Spanish ant brigade north wounded English head home to heal Persepolis builds Intelligence Agency starts Hospital Pasagarde Army->Hospital Samarria Infantry->Aqueduct Zarquim infantry->aqueduct lose wine supply
Turn 8 1330 AD Successfully bombard Hastings to size 7 and redline the infantry Hastings taken with no losses Spend 2425g to steal Electronics from China (safety steal) trade Electronics to Egypt for Wines + 31gpt + 110g + WM
IBT: Trade Silks + 30g to China for Ivory 2 workers captured by English infantry Hastings riots Canterbury infantry->hospital Leeds Infantry->marketplace Leiciester riots
Turn 9 1335 AD Setup troops for assault on Newcastle
IBT: Arabs & Aztecs sign peace Chinese sinks an English transport heading our way The Spanish infantry continues to march north Ninevah infantry->marketplace Pasagarde hospital->hydro plant Arbela artillery->hospital Eridu infantry->commercial dock Richmond infantry->factory Our spy caught England trying to steal our map
Turn 10 1340 AD Artillery reduces Newcastle from size 11 to 1 and wounds the infantry defenders, but there are at least 4 2-hit left infantry in Newcastle, so I defer to the next player for the assault After Newcastle is taken, the capital should shift to Dover once Dover is taken, you might able to trade peace for the remaining 2 cities. War weariness is becoming a problem. It seems to be faster to steal techs from China than to research them I saved the GL in case our MA bonus tech has a wonder with it. Once the English war is over (one way or another), let WW die down and then declare on China we should be able to get the rest of the AI to join in dog pile using the techs we have that would force China to communism belay that, I just checked and Spain is Monarchy and the rest are already in communism. Once weve stolen our way to even with China, its time to turn research back on. I started adding infrastructure my last couple of turns in anticipation of that. Ive got a couple of hospitals going hoping to get battlefield medicine.
Ill post more comments over the weekend.
Here is what's left of England
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