OK.
First, to Anarres. I apologize if my reply was harsh. I will try to keep things a bit more civil.
However, I stand by my assertion that a number of the things you said in the other thread were very condescending; remember, you opened your posting on that thread by declaring that you were only going to post to one of these 'whining' threads. And no amount of contextualization will conceal the condescedning tone of the two quotes I pulled out in my last post.
That said, let me boil this down. In Civ III/PTW, when my empires grew to a certain size, corruption would become an issue, as it should. Eventually, I would build the FP; I would look for a city a good distance from my capital, perhaps on another continent, and build or rush the FP. Now I had two cores of productive cities. I still had significant corruption; cites between my FP and Palace cities were usually pretty corrupt, and as I expanded my civ beyond the FP, those cites too were increasingly corrupt. But I accepted the corruption as a part of the game, and worked to combat it.
The important thing to note here is that the FP allowed me to have two productive circles of cities, whether it was built on the same contitent or not. It allowed me to enjoy the process of growing an empire more. It enhanced my enjoyment of the game, and was a feature I was quite used to having around.
Now, with C3C, that feature is completely gone. When I complain about it on the forum, I am told to stop whining and (incorrectly, as it turns out, according to Tavis) that the new FP functionality is actually what Firaxis intended all along. I am told that the FP must be placed within 15 tiles of my capital, and am told to just accept this.
Originally quoted by Grille: The way the corruption stuff works at the moment, you are currently forced to figure out the details about the inner workings.
Yes. I understand this. But if this is the case (and we both agree that it is), then that is a MAJOR problem. I should not need to understand intricate game mechanics in order to use a feature as simple as the FP. Not as a casual player. And I would venture that even the project leaders at Firaxis would agree with this.
Now, if I want to get out my slide rule and calculate Rank and Distance and figure out the absolute optimum time and place to build the FP and read articles here and through other sources to help me make my decision then, yes, I have that right also. But it should not be a requirement for playing the game.
One last thing:
Originally quoted by Anarres: I can't understand your anger at me, or at others that you class "elite player who chooses to cheat".
Let me go on record as saying that I never intended to characterize Anarres as a player who cheats. In fact, I would say just the opposite: you strike me as one who has dedicated a significant amount of time trying to help close exploits and loopholes. I applaud that. But when the solution to an exploit used by a small minority ends up negatively impacting a vast majority, then that majority has a right to feel frustrated and not be characterized as whiners when they voice their concerns.