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casual_moose
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in Inhalaattori's link whats that priest looking monk thing?
StabbingNirvana
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i think they have a picture of the dromon. if they do, i guess my personal (and xens too i guess) quest to get the cataphract in the game is ruined. <expletive deleted>. i guess it cant be ...::gulp:: THAT bad ...
Mongoloid Cow
Great Khan
Another scenario is definately the Rise of Rome (including by the looks of things Rome, Celts, Carthage Macedonia (alas! with Greece included 
as part of its empire) Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Empire and the Bosporan Kingdom / Scythia).
as part of its empire) Seleucid Empire, Ptolemaic Empire and the Bosporan Kingdom / Scythia).Inhalaattori
Emperor
The ship is viking longship. It must be. From "Crusades"- scenario I suppose.
You should add also silver and clay. They are in "Rise of Rome"- scenario.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civ3conquests/screens.html?page=43
You should add also silver and clay. They are in "Rise of Rome"- scenario.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civ3conquests/screens.html?page=43
Merepatra
BreakAway Games
That isn't clay....
LouLong
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Originally posted by Merepatra
That isn't clay....
Oops. I had noticed it too and thought (and wrote) it was clay. If it isn't I have to say it really looks like potteries.
So what is it ? : expensive vases, ruins ????....
Playing a test game as the Byzantines, the dromon saved my neck more than once! It is a *nice* unit. (I will leave arguments of its suitability as the Byzantine UU to other threads. hint
)
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
I've been in holidays, away from Net connections...
Do you already have a hint about the Port UU?
Is it any of the screenshot I've seen? Is that "old" Pike?
Thx.
(I almost hear you thinking "Hey, not that Port again..." and your heads hitting the keyboard. Correct me if I'm wrong
)
Do you already have a hint about the Port UU?
Is it any of the screenshot I've seen? Is that "old" Pike?
Thx.
(I almost hear you thinking "Hey, not that Port again..." and your heads hitting the keyboard. Correct me if I'm wrong
)
LouLong
In love with Rei Ayanami
Originally posted by Portuguese
(I almost hear you thinking "Hey, not that Port again..." and your heads hitting the keyboard. Correct me if I'm wrong
No pb. I am myself partly Portuguese (Dias da Silva
) so I am quite happy to have a Portuguese civ but I am sorry I don't have any other knowledge. UU is either the pike or a boat IMHO and I agree with you for the leader. Now my power is extremely limited !
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Funnily, we have the names of 2 of the greatest discoverers of Port: You, Dias; Me, Magalhães
OK, I'll stay in touch for the news
OK, I'll stay in touch for the news
StabbingNirvana
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maybe the new civs will have boat UU and the dromon will put them to shame! it better transport units though ... or else ....
LouLong
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Normally same time as US (end of October).
BUT they have already announced the version for Germany will hit the stores in mid-November at least....
I've just read this full thread -- All I can say is: Expect some seriously spurious "history".
It's already there -- easy, current example: "Medieval Infantry" is utter nonsense as portrayed. At best it portrays English knights fighting dismounted at Crecy et. al., and brings to mind some "Prince Valiant" type images of castle walls being scaled etc. ad nauseum.
Of course, in the developers' defense, one can always argue that there must be a balance between historical veracity and complexity / cost / appeal / etc. That having been said ...
1. "Enkidu Warriors" is utter nonsense; Enkidu was simply the hero's pal in the Epic Of Gilgamesh.
2. Cataphracts of any sort would of necessity introduce the concept of horse archers -- which (i) would be marvelous for steppe peoples and all that, not to mention that (ii) the cataphract was an evolutionary response to the threat posed by these same steppe horse-archers and (iii) would probably tie the AI in knots (yeah, I'm just being cynical here -- but the fact that such units don't exist, given their extreme historical importance, is telling).
That having been said, it'll be interesting to see how Civ addresses the cataphract issue, as some sort of Byzantine heavy cavalry is certainly required.
3. Personally, I'm expecting a major debacle on their attempts at pre-Columbian Civs. For an inkling, see Images Of Aztec And Inca Warfare. (i) Note llamas being used as pack animals to increase mobility; will llamas be a strategic resource as such, or a luxury resource along the lines of wool? Stay tuned ... (ii) those Aztecs wore some wild "uniforms" ... don't expect to see them replicated (iii) a very important Aztec weapon was the humble spear-thrower; again not holding my breath etc. to see how these units are(n't) portrayed.
--On the bright side, I think I read something about terrace farming in the pre-Columbian scenarios.
On the REALLY bright side, I also read that every new feature implemented for the scenarios will be echoed in the editor.
As for new terrain tile types, these should be simple software objects, without any need to replace one tile type with another.
All for now --
Oz
It's already there -- easy, current example: "Medieval Infantry" is utter nonsense as portrayed. At best it portrays English knights fighting dismounted at Crecy et. al., and brings to mind some "Prince Valiant" type images of castle walls being scaled etc. ad nauseum.
Of course, in the developers' defense, one can always argue that there must be a balance between historical veracity and complexity / cost / appeal / etc. That having been said ...
1. "Enkidu Warriors" is utter nonsense; Enkidu was simply the hero's pal in the Epic Of Gilgamesh.
2. Cataphracts of any sort would of necessity introduce the concept of horse archers -- which (i) would be marvelous for steppe peoples and all that, not to mention that (ii) the cataphract was an evolutionary response to the threat posed by these same steppe horse-archers and (iii) would probably tie the AI in knots (yeah, I'm just being cynical here -- but the fact that such units don't exist, given their extreme historical importance, is telling).
That having been said, it'll be interesting to see how Civ addresses the cataphract issue, as some sort of Byzantine heavy cavalry is certainly required.
3. Personally, I'm expecting a major debacle on their attempts at pre-Columbian Civs. For an inkling, see Images Of Aztec And Inca Warfare. (i) Note llamas being used as pack animals to increase mobility; will llamas be a strategic resource as such, or a luxury resource along the lines of wool? Stay tuned ... (ii) those Aztecs wore some wild "uniforms" ... don't expect to see them replicated (iii) a very important Aztec weapon was the humble spear-thrower; again not holding my breath etc. to see how these units are(n't) portrayed.
--On the bright side, I think I read something about terrace farming in the pre-Columbian scenarios.
On the REALLY bright side, I also read that every new feature implemented for the scenarios will be echoed in the editor.
As for new terrain tile types, these should be simple software objects, without any need to replace one tile type with another.
All for now --
Oz
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Maybe Cataphracts will at least be in a Conquest
I don't think that Pike is Portugese, but Dutch (Based on a few "hints" I've heard).
The Corough and Dromon are starting to make me think that Navies will be re-balanced, I hope I'm right.
I don't think that Pike is Portugese, but Dutch (Based on a few "hints" I've heard).
The Corough and Dromon are starting to make me think that Navies will be re-balanced, I hope I'm right.
LouLong
In love with Rei Ayanami
Updated with hyperlinks (Spiffor created emulation by developping the same tool at Apolyton ).
Thanks to let me know if any of the links do not work.
).Thanks to let me know if any of the links do not work.
DAKjungF
Khalif of the Box
It seems like the Llama and the exotic birds photos point to the same windmill....
Anyway, it is a very fine job you've done!
Anyway, it is a very fine job you've done!
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