Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
and what pope would have been the leader?
and would he be speaking Latin or Italian?
and would he be speaking Latin or Italian?
Continent of remaining Civ?
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Kathigitarkh
He would undoubtedly speak Latin. Innocent III springs to mind as an iconic Pope from the High Middle Ages.
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Kathigitarkh
Its been stated that the scenario covers the Crusades and the Reformation, and leads into the Renaissance (hence the title), but there is not confirmation of when exactly this is (the scenario may begin with the first Crusade, or it may begin with the last. It may also start even earlier, or it may not cover the Crusades). The scenario is supposed to cover a much longer period of time than those that came in DLCs, so it remains to be seen just how the civs and, in particular, their leaders are implemented.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Actually, I don't think it's been stated that it covers the Crusades, that's been speculated. It just says it covers wars of religion.
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Kathigitarkh
This is the statement I refer to, which has been used by various articles to describe the Into the Renaissance scenario. I can't say for sure that it is sourced from Firaxis itself, however, so it's true that the scenario may not begin around the Crusades, or that it covers them:
"Grow your medieval kingdom into one of the great nations of Renaissance Europe, fending off outside invasions from Mongols and Ottoman Turks and fighting the religious wars of the Crusades and Reformation!"
There is speculation that the scenario covers the Thirty Years War, hence the idea that the last civ might be Sweden.
"Grow your medieval kingdom into one of the great nations of Renaissance Europe, fending off outside invasions from Mongols and Ottoman Turks and fighting the religious wars of the Crusades and Reformation!"
There is speculation that the scenario covers the Thirty Years War, hence the idea that the last civ might be Sweden.
Louis XXIV
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I personally would start in 1066 or 1100 or so. They are calling it a massive, sprawling scenario, which suggests a longer time period and a bigger scale. 1100-1600 or so would be great.
Roltel
Chieftain
Yes, this is the description that has had me thinking Sweden as well - specially considering it was probably the dominant Protestant military power of the 30 Years War (which was also the war that saw it virtually absorb the Baltic lands as a Swedish "lake"). That, plus the fact all the scenarios seem to be European oriented, and the mention in a post here (don't know whether it was truth, speculation or deliberate misleading or not) that Stockholm is NOT a CS in G&K, leads me to think Sweden could be very likely the final civ.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not championing it (though I would have no objection to Sweden). Personally, I'd be happy with the Zulus or Brazil.
I wouldn't put much faith in this Stockholm rumor. How did people get to know that a previous CS isn't a CS anymore?
-If they announced that, then they just announced Sweden as the 9th Civ, as they wouldn't remove a CS just like that. I really don't think they did it, as it'd be a largely reproduced announcement and we wouldn't be here, having this discussion and speculation threads.
-If it's pure speculation, it's probably based on the Stockholm's absence from the screenshots and video demonstration they showed us so far. I'm sure there are other "missing" CSs as well, so unless we're going to get multiple "9th" civs, it's a flawed speculation.
-So it's like someone is deliberated misleading us. On this matter, can anyone confirm the 9th civ's colors? I paid attention to the demo's minimap and all but didn't see any green civ besides the Celts...
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Look at the demo when they load Carthage fighting the Austrians. Look at the very bottom of the map. I can't tell if it's a lime green civ or if it's a city-state with lime green or if lime green is a secondary color (Arabs). But if it's a lime green civ it's new.
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Kathigitarkh
There is potentially a lime green civ in the demo which shows Carthage vs. the Huns and Austria, but its very difficult to make out. It could also be a City-State, or Arabia. If the ninth civ is lime green, however, I am pretty sure Sweden can be ruled out. Other than that we haven't been given the colours.
Sorry, Louis XXIV. Must have replied just as you were.
That dark green dot down there? Got it, thank you.
It matches the cities' dot size, but no civ uses that color (dark green) as secondary (Arabia and the Celts uses a sightly lighter color as their primary and Ethiopia a much darker one). It probably isn't a CS because it doesn't have that black area; actually, I can't tell its primary color apart from the unoccupied area's color. Perhaps they use the same color, but it's like it doesn't have an area.
Weird.
Well,this Scenario's start should have been around the arriving of the Mongol Empire in Europe,which happened in 1200 . What I do think it's weird is the inclusion of Ottoman there,because they just start expanding to Europe when they conquered Constantinople,which happened around 1450 . But it's possible that they might decided to "speed up" the Ottoman's grow,to fit them at the start . And if the start is in 1200,I don't think it would cover up the 30 years war(In fact,the players itself will trigger this war instead starting with it) .
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Perhaps the weird inclusion of both Mongol and Ottoman suggests that this scenario won't have any compromise with historical time of the events .
Sorry,but I've researched the Coat of Arms of Sweden and there's no relationship between this tone of green and the color of the Sweden's Coat of Arms or Sweden's Flag . You can dig up this thread,by looking my answers .
I guess that is what he meant by "ruled out", so he'd agree with you.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Actually, the lime green below the dark green dot to the left. Things look even harder to tell in that pic.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
If they were to add Brazil, they would probably be yellow with green as a secondary color.
bonafide11
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I just think that pic is way too difficult to interpret anything from. It's impossible to figure out what is represented there. I know we all want to speculate and figure out who will be the final civ, and I'm awfully curious too, but I just don't think there's any solid evidence there.
I see the lime green now. It took a while, I have to say
It doesn't help us that much, indeed... that is, if it actually means anything...
That Austrian Flag in the Great Admiral's icon proved to be a reliable clue, though.
Yeah, or vice versa.
You mean like the color scheme of the city-state of Rio de Janeiro?
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