Continent of remaining Civ?

What continent should the remaining Civ be from?

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I think the best way to guess the remaining civ would be to look at the designer of this expansion pack. Ed Beach is a board game designer, who has a great interest in the Renaissance. The developers also mentioned that the Renaissance scenario was a huge deal to him, and that which civilizations where included was heavily influenced this this.

So I'd say that the best way to find the most likely civ to be included as the last one is to take a look around for any Ed Beach designed, Renaissance board games, and see which nations play a pivotal role in that game.
 
Human Crouton said:
I think the best way to guess the remaining civ would be to look at the designer of this expansion pack. Ed Beach is a board game designer, who has a great interest in the Renaissance. The developers also mentioned that the Renaissance scenario was a huge deal to him, and that which civilizations where included was heavily influenced this this.

So I'd say that the best way to find the most likely civ to be included as the last one is to take a look around for any Ed Beach designed, Renaissance board games, and see which nations play a pivotal role in that game.
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Take a look at this and see what you think.


Link to video.

I feel the Protestants and the Papal states are not represented in the current civs. Louis has said that the Holy Roman Empire is Austria. That may be feasible.

However, IMO Rome civ does not fit the Papal States. We need to have a Pope as a leader and a religion based civ to replace Rome.

My opinion is only based on the review of this one game though.
 
While I agree it's helpful to look to the scenarios, it's not entirely clear how many new civs were added with each scenario. For instance, obviously not all 9 civs are in the Into the Renaissance scenario. The only question is, Are there three new civs in the scenario or two? I don't think we have the answer to that question and it's certainly not an easy answer.
 
nokmirt said:
Take a look at this and see what you think.


Link to video.

I feel the Protestants and the Papal states are not represented in the current civs. Louis has said that the Holy Roman Empire is Austria. That may be feasible.

However, IMO Rome civ does not fit the Papal States. We need to have a Pope as a leader and a religion based civ to replace Rome.

My opinion is only based on the review of this one game though.
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Papal states would be awesome. Especially with the new inclusion of religion. I think it would be unique enough to actually have a DLC, but I also think it's unique enough to be the mystery 9th civ. Some kind of religion manipulating UA sounds pretty fun.
 
nokmirt said:
Take a look at this and see what you think.


Link to video.

I feel the Protestants and the Papal states are not represented in the current civs. Louis has said that the Holy Roman Empire is Austria. That may be feasible.

However, IMO Rome civ does not fit the Papal States. We need to have a Pope as a leader and a religion based civ to replace Rome.

My opinion is only based on the review of this one game though.
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Vatican is a CS.

I doubt there's a need to read too much into the Renaissance issue - it's already supported by adding the Netherlands, Austria and (as free content in the expansion) Spain. Key Renaissance players like Venice are still city-states, as is Lisbon indicating that Portugal will be a no-show.

It's true. And the Celts and Huns because of the Fall of Rome Scenario. The Maya because of the year 2012...
A lot of the civs come with themes.
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The Celts had no part in the fall of Rome. The Huns, Byzantium and possibly Carthage are the relevant civs for that scenario.

The Maya are in because they're popular and were in the last game - most Civ 4 civs are in Civ V either as the same civs or as close analogues (Native Americans vs. Iroquois, Austria vs. Holy Roman Empire), as successor states of the Civ IV incarnations (Khmer vs. Siam, Mali vs. Songhai). The only exceptions appear to be Portugal, Sumer and the Zulu from Civ 4, with the 'replacements' in Civ V (Huns and Polynesia) having no analogue in past civ games, and the final civ yet to be revealed.
 
Vatican City is a City-State, so the Papal States are not in.

In addition, that would leave two civs with the capital of Rome, both calling it Rome (so only one civ could get their capital if both are in a game).
 
Louis XXIV said:
Vatican City is a City-State, so the Papal States are not in.

In addition, that would leave two civs with the capital of Rome, both calling it Rome (so only one civ could get their capital if both are in a game).
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I understand that, but how do you think he may have represented the Pope in his scenario? He had to do it some way. That one boggles my mind. Caesar in place of the Pope thats disconcerting!
 
nokmirt said:
Take a look at this and see what you think.


Link to video.

I feel the Protestants and the Papal states are not represented in the current civs. Louis has said that the Holy Roman Empire is Austria. That may be feasible.

However, IMO Rome civ does not fit the Papal States. We need to have a Pope as a leader and a religion based civ to replace Rome.

My opinion is only based on the review of this one game though.
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I don't think this has anything to do with the new civs
I'm sure Hungary and Poland will appear in the scenario, even if that they won't be included as full civs in the main game. (we know they won't as their capital appeared as city states in the GK videos)
So it's the same way Sumer and Hittite appeared only in one of the ancient scenarios

My guess is that this will be the case for the Papal States too
So they will appear in the scenario, but absolutely no chance for a distinct Papal States civ in Civ V - at least I hope they have absolutely no chance :mischief:
If the 9th civ is also connected to the scenario (which I doubt to be honest), then it would definitely be Sweden
 
I think they'll all have backgrounds. How are you going to represent France in the Renaissance with Napoleon?
 
Carthage isn't in Fall of Rome either. The Celts were around, especially the Picts from the north.
 
Depending upon when the scenario is set, the Papal States could always have their capital at Avignon. Not that I believe the Papal States to be the last civ; it would make for interesting games, however.
 
Louis XXIV said:
I think they'll all have backgrounds. How are you going to represent France in the Renaissance with Napoleon?
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He is not going too I'd imagine, good point!
 
Interestingly, they did make a model for Francis since he appears on the title screen. That means either a flat leaderscreen or even an animated one.

I personally think the Papal States will be a City-State. It makes more sense because they can send quests that way.
 
Louis XXIV said:
Interestingly, they did make a model for Francis since he appears on the title screen. That means either a flat leaderscreen or even an animated one.

I personally think the Papal States will be a City-State. It makes more sense because they can send quests that way.
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Francis II right? And the Papal States as a CS. Hmmm, that could work quite well actually. I cannot wait to try this scenario or GnK. Most likely, I will play a regular game and the scenario, and switch back and forth between the two.
 
Francis I.

At the same point in history was Francis I, Henry VIII, and Charles V. Must have made for interesting dinner conversations ;)
 
Louis XXIV said:
Francis I.

At the same point in history was Francis I, Henry VIII, and Charles V. Must have made for interesting dinner conversations ;)
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Okay and I bet. :)
 
Yea I have proposed A Papal States Civ before in the Suggest a Civ thread. Would be a very unique Civ if it was ever made, but odds are so slim (like next to nil) that this would ever be done.
 
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