Continent of remaining Civ?

[Louis XXIV]

Yeah, or vice versa.

Vice versa is India, iirc.

You mean like the color scheme of the city-state of Rio de Janeiro?

I would assume they are black and green, not green and yellow.

 

[HardRocker]

I personally think that a Sicilian civ would be interesting, almost like a Medieval II: Total War type thing? idk, but it would be quite fun to play as them, and it would be a nice Medieval civ for Italy.

 

[Liex]

I guess they took India's modern flag as inspiration. That yellow looks more orange than yellow (Saffron), and that green is quite "strong". Brazil could use a "true" yellow and a somewhat different green.

Anyway, thankfully it's not difficult to change the civs' colors to match personal taste. And who is going to need a good recolor is the Byzantines.

 

[MARDUK80]

Brazil
Unique Ability: Ordem e Progresso. Culture and Faith generation increased 50% during Golden Ages and less penalties for Unhappiness (like no loss of GA points and less penalties on strength of units)

I've given the suggestion for Brazilian UA and the main component of this UA is the minimized Unhappiness penalties . The culture/Faith bonus during GA was just a lazy way I found to reward the player who keeps Happiness level positive(it should be changed to avoid being overpowered for Cultural Victories) . Also they have an UB called Sambadrome,which would replace Opera house and probably gives some bonus related to Luxury resources(since Brazil was never been a Civilization in Civ series before,I couldn't say this would be the best bonus or even the best UB)

Please do post your new ideas in the Civ5 Civilizations/Leaders Wanted! thread and I will gladly update the Brazil concept in the OP

And this:

Bonus on Religious Buildings construction would be the most realistic UA ever.

I have to start think about possible Pagan Kingdoms uniques... Really like that image, I especially like Balloons

Hmm, perhaps one of their uniques could be a Recon Balloon unique air unit (for classical/medieval era) ?

Anawrahta Minsaw as the leader, and like you suggested, Religious buildings production bonus as the UA.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I personally think that a Sicilian civ would be interesting, almost like a Medieval II: Total War type thing? idk, but it would be quite fun to play as them, and it would be a nice Medieval civ for Italy.

The problem with Sicily is the rulers were constantly changing. Leaving aside classical antiquity, which was a bloody battleground between Greek and Phoenician (Carthaginian) forces for several centuries in an Oceania vs. Eurasia style bloodbath, it was then ruled by the Romans inherited by the Byzantines (i.e., still the Romans), conquered by the Arabs, conquered by the Normans, conquered by the Holy Roman Empire, inherited by the Habsburgs (Spain more than Austria), I think it was next owned by the Bourbons but still Spain.

Medieval II (and I think the original Medieval Total War) used the Normans. But, as much as I like Robert Guiscard, his rule was very short-lived. Throughout their history, the Kingdom of Two Sicilies (based in Naples) was relatively poor. Italian historians are sometimes embarrassed to include them in their history of Italy once they can talk about the northern city-states where the Renaissance was much stronger. In other words, Venice and Florence capture the popular imagination much better than Naples and Sicily.

 

[Ribannah]

(...) Celts, Polynesians and Huns weren't coherent civilisations, and the Polynesians, Iroquois and Huns never maintained urban or semi-urban societies.

The Iroquois were and are 100% urban. Note how easy it was to make a historically (fairly) correct city list.

My preference for Civ#9 is Brazil. South America lacks a modern representative. The next expansion can add more African civs.

 

[seasnake]

Okay, that stuff about Pagan I never heard of. So now we could Khmer, Indonesia, or Pagan who would be awesome parts of a SE Asian civ.

 

[PhilBowles]

Please do post your new ideas in the Civ5 Civilizations/Leaders Wanted! thread and I will gladly update the Brazil concept in the OP





I have to start think about possible Pagan Kingdoms uniques... Really like that image, I especially like Balloons

Hmm, perhaps one of their uniques could be a Recon Balloon unique air unit (for classical/medieval era) ?

Anawrahta Minsaw as the leader, and like you suggested, Religious buildings production bonus as the UA.

I don't think the balloon in the image is of Pagan origin, it's an artist's impression of a European balloon over Bagan. The image itself doesn't represent the Bagan of the Pagan Kingdom; Bagan persisted as the capital of the later Myanma Kingdom, and the architecture there today (and reproduced in the image) is Myanma-period.

 

[bonafide11]

I've seen people discuss adding Portugal and Kongo together as a DLC / scenario due to their early trading relations, but why not add Brazil in that scenario as well? Yeah, I doubt they'll add three civs in one DLC pack, but they could make a pretty fun scenario with Portugal, Kongo, and Brazil together, and I know I'd pay for it. Plus that would include perhaps the three most requested civilizations in the game.

 

[GenjiKhan]

I've seen people discuss adding Portugal and Kongo together as a DLC / scenario due to their early trading relations, but why not add Brazil in that scenario as well? Yeah, I doubt they'll add three civs in one DLC pack, but they could make a pretty fun scenario with Portugal, Kongo, and Brazil together, and I know I'd pay for it. Plus that would include perhaps the three most requested civilizations in the game.

If they release a DLC with 3 Civilizations(Portugal,Kongo and Brazil),they should release 2 scenarios,because Brazil can't fit in the Portugal/Kongo scenario . The problem with adding Brazil in this dlc is the lack of a good scenario to add both and the main reason is because Brazil's Independence was much more peaceful than USA Independence or the Independence of the most of Latin America countries .

 

[Radu_Magus]

If they release a DLC with 3 Civilizations(Portugal,Kongo and Brazil),they should release 2 scenarios,because Brazil can't fit in the Portugal/Kongo scenario . The problem with adding Brazil in this dlc is the lack of a good scenario to add both and the main reason is because Brazil's Independence was much more peaceful than USA Independence or the Independence of the most of Latin America countries .

Still, there was a war. Not as big as the American Revolutionary War, but there were conflicts. I suggested in another thread that it could be a good scenario having Portugal x Brazil and Spain x Gran Colombia and Viceroyalty of the Rio de La Plata. And this DLC could include both Brazil and Portugal as Civs.

 

[bonafide11]

If they release a DLC with 3 Civilizations(Portugal,Kongo and Brazil),they should release 2 scenarios,because Brazil can't fit in the Portugal/Kongo scenario . The problem with adding Brazil in this dlc is the lack of a good scenario to add both and the main reason is because Brazil's Independence was much more peaceful than USA Independence or the Independence of the most of Latin America countries .

They absolutely could do a scenario about it. It doesn't have to be a scenario based on Brazil fighting for independence from Portugal. It could be a scenario about Portugal establishing trade and colonies in foreign civilizations, the Kongo and Brazil.

 

[nokmirt]

I've seen people discuss adding Portugal and Kongo together as a DLC / scenario due to their early trading relations, but why not add Brazil in that scenario as well? Yeah, I doubt they'll add three civs in one DLC pack, but they could make a pretty fun scenario with Portugal, Kongo, and Brazil together, and I know I'd pay for it. Plus that would include perhaps the three most requested civilizations in the game.

I would too. What I was wondering is how you think they should portray Brazil? What do you think their UU/UA/UB should be, and who would be their best leader choice in your opinion? I would think the scenario should be based on exploration and the search for a trade route to India, and perhaps settling cites on the way, but I can't think of a victory condition. My mind is not working too great today. IDK.

You seem to have answered what the scenario should be about above.

 

[Zhahz]

It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. I don't think the designers are obligated to do any kind of balanced representation of anything. They just need to do what's good for the game. Including civs most people have never heard of isn't that good for the game.

I'd like to see something fresh for the "last civ" but also something that isn't obscure to most players.

 

[nokmirt]

It's a game. It's supposed to be fun. I don't think the designers are obligated to do any kind of balanced representation of anything. They just need to do what's good for the game. Including civs most people have never heard of isn't that good for the game.

I'd like to see something fresh for the "last civ" but also something that isn't obscure to most players.

Most people know about Brazil because of the Amazon, and reading about the depletion of the rain forest. IMO Brazil would fill the role of something new and different that would be a fine addition to CiV.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Btw I also see some West-Europe bias when it comes to European Civs. Hungary, Austria, Poland, Dacia, Sweden - not really that well represented. I would say that these European civilizations are/were in many ways more important than for example the Celts or the Dutch.

Same thing with America, South America is badly underpresented. We always have Civs like Iroquois or Sioux in the game, but we dont have the Tupi or the Mapuche.

Unfortunately this is very much true
Especially feel it in Europe, some of those civs you listed were/are definitely more important than some of the already included western european civs
Same case as with Africa and Southern America - not that many people knows them and their history well enough
Western Europe and North America has an unfair advantage over Central and Eastern Europe and South America, and an even bigger advantage over Africa
For example Hungary, Poland and Kongo should have been included long ago
They are before at least 1/3 of the already included civs if we strictly base it on historical significance
I would also love to see some Southern American native civs included beside the Inca

 

[oliver]

Unfortunately this is very much true
Especially feel it in Europe, some of those civs you listed were/are definitely more important than some of the already included western european civs
Same case as with Africa and Southern America - not that many people knows them and their history well enough
Western Europe and North America has an unfair advantage over Central and Eastern Europe and South America, and an even bigger advantage over Africa
For example Hungary, Poland and Kongo should have been included long ago
They are before at least 1/3 of the already included civs if we strictly base it on historical significance
I would also love to see some Southern American native civs included beside the Inca

I believe that to a certain extant you are correct but you must remember what civs where really in South America par the inca.
Also Hungary was really just a part of austro-hungry.
But what I'd really love to see is if they diversified the civs on the indian sub-contientant instead of just giving us india.
I'd also love to see Poland in the game and I believe the developers should have chosen the swede's instead of the Dane's for not only where they vikings but they had a very strong 17/18th century empire.

 

[JolouPT]

And Charlemagne? I think the last civ will be a focus on religion and Into the Renaissance scenario, so i see Charlemagne as a possibility.

 

[oliver]

I forgot I also think they should add a Southern African Civ. I don't know southern africa very well but as long as it's not the zulu or the afrikans I'd be happy.

 

[Dragonflow]

And Charlemagne? I think the last civ will be a focus on religion and Into the Renaissance scenario, so i see Charlemagne as a possibility.

Charlemagne died in 814, so I doubt he will be in the "Into the Renaissance" scenario. The scenario will probably start in the 11th century around the crusades era or even later, some 200 years after Charlemagne died.