Converting other civs to your religion

[Ghafhi]

We know from release photos that this is an option in civ4.How could you possibly benefit from this? Wouldn't your people be more sympathetic to a war against people of a different religion. Would this be used to convert your allie cives or enemy civs.
Also you think they will bring back fanaticism from civ 2 as a gov/religion. That would be "Hella Cool"

 

[peanut35]

i know they have mentioned that similar religions between civs provides better relations while conducting trade/negotiations

also, there is the issue of line of sight which is up in the air, whether it will be in the final version or now. Meaning, if you ahve the Holy city, then you have line of sight to all other cities of that religion, whether in your empire or an opponents

 

[Ghafhi]

That makes me wonder what happens If I take over a holy city of a different religion. Eg. I'm Jew and I take over Mecca and Medina

 

[peanut35]

interesting thought. Couple options, i would think. This is all possibility and conjecture
1. Destroy Holy City
2. Destroy Holy Structure
3. Welcome new religion with open arms (ie. Freedom of Religion) gaining more line of sight

 

[apatheist]

I'm pretty sure the Holy City is not automatically destroyed.

It would be cool if your infidel race capturing another religion's holy city led to a crusade. I'd be surprised if that wasn't in.

 

[Stilgar08]

interesting thought. Couple options, i would think. This is all possibility and conjecture
1. Destroy Holy City
2. Destroy Holy Structure
3. Welcome new religion with open arms (ie. Freedom of Religion) gaining more line of sight

I believe you can have ONE state-religion, while having different holy cities at the same time! You still use missionaries of YOUR religion, nevertheless the believers of the other religion connected with the 2nd holy city you own will help you in certain ways... As keeper of multiple holy cities you get LOS for all cities with that religion (if they haven't taken it out again) plus you get a + gold from cities with your religion (respectively the religion of the holy city you conquered)! This is a huge advantage,strategy- and economy-wise!
It would be moronic not to keep the city. Civs with that religion must have a strong incentive to get the holy city for obvious reasons! crusade's will be usual in cIV, I assume. And I think the latter religion-civic option for "fractured" religous societies will end the gold-payments to the owners of the different holy-city-owners...

 

[Ghafhi]

So how would you convert say a city that founded Hinduism you captured from India to your state religion say Jewish

 

[Stilgar08]

I presumably wouldn't. I have no idea how that will work, but maybe there are "special rules" for holy cities. Or maybe I would use missionaries on my own city! Or add citizens of jewish religion to that city... Maybe you can have a Hindhu holy-city and STILL can build a jewish cathedral! (I know, it's synagoge but we're talking civ here ) Maybe this would result in a mixed religion, when the city grows (+1 citizen=Hindhu, the next one Jewish and so on??!?) As I said: I don'really know!

 

[eaglefox]

maybe you have a wonder to make a city a holy city, and when you capture this holy city, the wonder gets destroyed so the city becomes a normal city.

 

[Thomas Davie]

If other civs will not convert to my religion, they will be exterminated (in the words of the Daleks).

Tom

 

[mitsho]

@eaglefox, holy cities are the center/capital/foundation centers of a certain religions. They are created when a civ founds a religion and which city is chosen automatically by chance under the 'top five' (or so,... just an example) cities of your nation.

mfG mitsho

 

[apatheist]

If other civs will not convert to my religion, they will be exterminated (in the words of the Daleks).

And all civilizations that share that religion will declare war on you (I hope). You're still free to do it, though, but you can't turn off religion like that. Or, at least, I hope you won't be able to.

 

[Thomas Davie]

And all civilizations that share that religion will declare war on you (I hope). You're still free to do it, though, but you can't turn off religion like that. Or, at least, I hope you won't be able to.

It's just a game, and the first few times I play it, thats the strategy I'll go for. I'm only going on my Civ 3 experience, since I don't have much Civ 2 behind me, but I find that a declaration of war against you doesn't matter all that much.

regards

Tom

 

[vbraun]

Also if you convert cities, to a religon in which you own the holy city for, you will gain money from those cities.

 

[apatheist]

It's just a game, and the first few times I play it, thats the strategy I'll go for. I'm only going on my Civ 3 experience, since I don't have much Civ 2 behind me, but I find that a declaration of war against you doesn't matter all that much.

Oh, I'm not trying to deter you from that. More power to you if you can manage it on a non-trivial level and attain a good score. I'm just saying that might not be the path of least resistance.