Crossover Games: BTS Running (non-Steam)

[Flintlock1415]

No one, huh.
Does anyone at least have some info on 'not ready' errors? Its seems like it can't read the drive, but I've no idea why.

 

[grigunge]

No one, huh.
Does anyone at least have some info on 'not ready' errors? Its seems like it can't read the drive, but I've no idea why.

Sorry, I didn't have this problem when I was installing. One thing you could try, is to image the CD using an application like Daemon Tools and installing from the ISO. The copy protection check is performed only when the game starts up so you should be able to finish the installation.

 

[Flintlock1415]

Thanks for the idea, but I can't even create an iso without it crapping out at the same spot. I don't get why the data is corrupted...

Do you have Civ Gold? Anyway can you make an iso? I used DMG Converter

 

[Thomas Davie]

I thought I'd post my experiences here....

I have a January/09 UMBP 17 currently running 10.5.7. I have Parallels 4.0.something running Win XP Pro. Civ IV/Warlords/Beyond the Sword is installed and working just fine inside of Parallels. This is using the 9400 graphics. I copied the Firaxis folder over to the shared home folder, quit Windows and then installed Crossover Game 7.2(?). Created a bottle and then moved the Civ IV folder over to the bottle.

I then ran BTS, adding in one DX file, the June 2007 DirectX 9.0c, and MSX parser(?)

Running the game right from the desktop has the following effects

1) If the game is set to full screen the MBP monitor and the external monitor I've got hooked up stay blank. If I power down, disconnect the external monitor, restart and then load the game, same thing....blank screen.

2) If I alter the Civ IV.ini to fullscreen=0, the game starts just fine, in a window. And using the advanced options I can resize it. Gmae works perfectly though with *no* lag or artifacts. Movies, sound, voice, etc all work perfectly.

But here's the rub; the game *always* starts on my external monitor. I don't want that, I want it to start on my MBP screen. Is there something simple I am overlooking?

thanks for any ideas.

Tom

 

[Thomas Davie]

One problem solved. I rearranged the setup of my internal UMBP 17 display and my external monitor such that my primary monitor is to the left of the external. Civ IV BTS now starts up on the internal display. No graphical glitches so far other than city population growth (turns till pop increase) display does not show on the map. I can hover the mouse over a city and find out, so no big deal.

Only issue remaining is that I can not get the game to display full screen. I've got my internal screen set to 1680X1050, and if I select that, partof the Civ IV screens are obscured by the menu bar at the bottom. So I set my dock to autohide, and that issue is taken care of. But I still see the menu bar at top.

Any way to run it full screen using Crossover games?

thanks

Tom

 

[Thomas Davie]

Under /Users/tdavie7/Documents/My Games/Beyond the Sword is CivilizationIV.ini. I edited that with textedit to rem out the line fullscreen=0, which had been mentioned on the Codeweavers forum to include when you were setting up the non steam game under CrossOver games.

FWIW, tdavie7 is my user name on my OSX setup. I made sure that fullscreen was selected under the advanced options of Beyond The Sword, and now all works as it should, without me having to set the dock to autohide. I am currently playing BTS at a 1600x1200 resolution.

Hope this helps someone.

Tom

 

[Flintlock1415]

Ok, I'm still having trouble with this. I just obtained Vanilla Civ (not Gold Version), and the install won't work. I can get through the install process just fine (also with BTS), but the game won't load. Upon further inspection I can't find anything installed into the Documents/MyGames/ directory, which is weird because when I installed Colonization all the things that belong in the Documents area are there. My C: drive seemed to install fine, but BTS won't launch, so I'm guessing its because it can't find things that belong in the MyGames path. (And neither can I!)

Here is what I did:

I installed Civilization 4 (Vanilla) from the disk, creating a new Bottle. The game automatically installed DirectX for me (which I don't think is the issue.)

I went ahead and installed BTS into the same bottle, which seemed fine as well.

I got the new 3.19 BTS patch and it into the same Bottle again, which also went smoothly.

When I tried to open Civ4BeyondSword.exe, nothing happened. Not even an error or log entry (that I could find). The Civ 4 logs could not be accessed or turned on, because they don't appear to exist. I was wondering if you guys have any ideas on how to get the Documents to show up correctly.

 

[AlanH]

I have had zero success trying to run Civ4 in Crossover, and I get the same effect. It will install OK, but it will not run.

You may be confusing cause and effect.

I'd be surprised if the Colonization installer created the My Games folders before you ran the game. Normally the My Games components will be created by the game software the first time it runs. I'm guessing Civ4 is not getting as far as that when you try to run it.

 

[grigunge]

I've been able to get Civ4 working pretty well in Crossover Games. Crossover doesn't support the CD protection in Civilization, so you will need to acquire the patch to disable the check which matches your version of BtS.

 

[Flintlock1415]

@Alan
That's interesting, I not know that it installs after you run.

@Grigunge
I know about the patch stuff, but 3.19 patch is supposed to get rid of the CD check. It worked for Colonization with the 1.01 patch, but I can't get BTS to load. What version of Civ did you use (e.g. Complete, Vanilla + BTS, Gold + BTS, etc.) I'm using Vanilla (Game of the Year Edition) and BTS.

I've installed twice but I don't know what to change. This is really odd since I don't seem to get any logging even.

 

[grigunge]

*facepalm*

I didn't even realize that BtS 3.19 was out until I read your post. I'm downloading it now. I do know 3.17 works without problems in Crossover. I'll have to see how 3.19 goes...

 

[Flintlock1415]

Well, I seem to be getting closer...
I got the game to start loading (under 3.17) but it crashes at init voice/MP. I got the logging to work since it finally got far enough to create the mygames directory w/ the .ini file. I turned fullscreen to 0 and enabled logging. I got an error in the log saying that it couldn't find a file called crc.dat from the cache. I copied the one from my Colonization cache to my BTS cache, but now the error is the same but it doesn't complain about the missing file.

[30819.054] DBG: CIV Init
[30819.074] VERSION: App: Y:\Library\Application Support\CrossOver Games\Bottles\Beyond the Sword\drive_c\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe
[30819.158] VERSION: Build: Sun May 18 23:20:16 2008
[30819.158] VERSION: 3.1.3.1 (104717)
[30820.225] VERSION: Mod Loaded: none
[30820.300] DBG: FILE Cat Init
[30829.757] DBG: NOT Using XML cache, cur md5=0eef1dfde94ebed344196e139dca085d, cached md5=39e69ff0d1c32577ea16ec1e27998f3e
[30829.761] DBG: Game Init
[30829.767] DBG: Multiplayer Init BEGIN

 

[metalhawk]

I've had fairly good luck with it (if you browse the civ forums at codeweavers, I've posted about it there a bit). I haven't gotten updated to 3.19 as I stopped playing in Crossover as I was having OOS errors when hosting Fall From Heaven (I do most of my playing in MP). Very inconsistent but happened more when running in Crossover than on the bootcamp PC.

It's definitely a ton faster than running in a VM, but not faster than native (either boot camp or how I'd expect the Mac side to be...).

With regard to the CRC install errors - I've definitely seen that, my disc does that under windows when I've had to reinstall. Sucks. I usually just polish the disc a bit and keep trying while crossing fingers and toes...

When I install in BootCamp and drag the entire install to my Bottle, however. If I were to update to 3.19, I'd just drag my current 3.19 install over from that partition (this is far easier, but understandably problematic for those who don't have bootcamp or a VM partition..).

One issue that *I* have (oddly) is that it will *only* run in full screen - I can't tab out (alt or Apple), which is problematic at times. I don't think I've tried changing the setting that runs it in a window, however.

I don't think I've seen that last problem, Flintlock On thing I had to toy around with was the settings for where My Documents were, but I think that was for finding saves and mods, so I'm not sure that's relevant.

 

[antaine]

I've just installed this with BTS 3.19 retail (Civ IV Complete) and tried running Rhye's mod. It seems to work just fine. Now for the next step...where do I put Mods I've downloaded? I can't seem to find a Mod folder for Crossover...

 

[antaine]

nevermind, I just found it (have to go to it from within Crossover and not the Finder). I'll have to play it for a bit to see how stable it actually is, but it seems to be the lifesaver I've been looking for...

 

[antaine]

So, I keep crashing at about turn 155 playing a mod of Rhye's and Fall (but I was okay until then). This happens with the graphics sliders set both to "high" and "low." That's about what I was finding with Parallels 5. Any ideas on how to get either one to be a bit more stable (settings, etc)?

 

[antaine]

hm, stability seems to have leveled out. It took me six crashes, but once I'd gone to turn 156 I didn't have another crash (now over 100 turns later).